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From Credit or Noncredit to Fee-Supported

From Credit or Noncredit to Fee-Supported. Working with a Fee-Supported Community Services / Education Program George Boodrookas , Modesto - Donna Burns, Mt. San Antonio - Linda Kurokawa , MiraCosta. Curriculum Institute, July 13, 2012 San Francisco, CA. Quick Survey of the room….

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From Credit or Noncredit to Fee-Supported

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  1. From Credit or Noncredit to Fee-Supported Working with a Fee-Supported Community Services / Education Program George Boodrookas, Modesto - Donna Burns, Mt. San Antonio - Linda Kurokawa , MiraCosta Curriculum Institute, July 13, 2012 San Francisco, CA

  2. Quick Survey of the room… When it comes to fee-based community services, how many of you: • Are “best buds” with the community services/education program on your campus? • Know nothing about any community services / education on your campus? • Are suspicious of community services / education on your campus? • Are connected to PE/Kinesiology, Fine Arts, or Performing Arts?

  3. Converting Credit/NC to Fee-Supported • Why? • How • Keys to Success • Pros & Cons • Fostering Collaboration

  4. Why? • SSTF recommendations – 4.1 • Credit/noncredit class attended by primarily avocational students • Class has to be cut because of budget issues • Consistent low enrollment

  5. What can Community Ed do for the Credit or Noncredit Program? • Student Success Task Force Recommendation 4.1 • Test the market for new courses • Provide venue for avocational students to continue lifelong learning without taking up critically needed space in college classes • Provide employment for excellent adjunct instructors whose classes/programs have been cut because of the budget • Meet community needs that cannot be met by college (catalog) programs

  6. How? • How to determine class format: short course or full semester • How instructors & staff are hired • How to determine what to charge (covering direct & indirect costs) • Approval process – Campus communication & Board of Trustee approval

  7. Key considerations on cost • Local college practices vary. One example: • Direct costs - “Directly associated;” if there were no class, these costs would not exist. • Administrative costs – Shared costs of running the community services program • Indirect costs – “Overhead;” costs the college incurs in supporting community services functions. Often a percentage. • Cost attribution is generally established by fiscal leadership in consultation with community education leadership.

  8. Example – SRJC: Class cost calculation • What are the Direct Costs for a specific class: • Instructor’s Salary • Student supply costs • Facility costs (on campus or off) • “Use” fees (i.e. for computer lab, cooking lab, etc) • What are the Indirect Costs that need to be charged to the class: • Printing/postage costs for Bulletin • Any other “promotional” charges • Community Education staff charges • District overhead (lights, heat, office space, etc)

  9. Example: Mt. SAC Water Certification Classes • Initiated by credit schedule cuts • Short-term program with external certification • Issue of catalog rights • Considered: • Rate paid by students at the time (3 units) • Projected enrollment • Minimum income required by instructors based on 60/40 revenue sharing model (60 to college)

  10. Example: Mt. SAC Water Certification, continued • Moved to CE program in Fall 2011 • 5 classes offered • Aprox. 95 students enrolled • 36-40 hour classes • Student fee: $149 (exam review $49) • Revenue: $15,488 • Student insurance fees ($ 989) • Instructor 50%: $7,249.50 • Revenue for other costs: $7,249.50

  11. Example – SRJC: Balkan Dance • Moved to CE program in Fall 2009 • 1 section offered • 65 students enrolled • 32 hour class • Student fee: $49 • Gross income: $3,185.00 • Direct costs: $1,904.00 • Indirect costs: $1,130.25 • Additional income above costs: $150.75

  12. Keys to Success • Know the market … your community • Have an excellent instructor (a note about “minimum quals…”) • Price the class to sell (and to meet costs) • Promote the class to the target market (and beyond)

  13. What works & what doesn’t • Successes from panel; note variation by community • Cautions • Community Ed may draw different students from credit students • Community Ed can’t be expected to backfill faculty load.

  14. Pros & Cons • Pros: • Continue to serve residents of the district • Positive college image among district voters • Continue to employ excellent instructors • Efficient use of District facilities • Help support District costs • Cons: • Classes generally cost the students more • Start-up and possible “hidden” costs

  15. Fostering collaboration • Thoughts on working college-wide to meet student needs • Importance of working with others within & outside the college.

  16. Covey’s Circle of Influence

  17. Partnership Concentric Ring Theory • Campus Partnerships • Local Partnerships • Regional Partnerships • State Partnerships • National Partnerships • Global Impact

  18. If you have no community services program… • Help is available! • Forms, guides, & tools… • ACCE: www.acceonline.org

  19. What’s on your mind? • Questions?

  20. Presenters • George Boodrookas – boodrookasg@mjc.edu • Donna Burns – dburns@mtsac.edu • Linda Kurokawa – lkurokawa@miracosta.edu • Special thanks to Kerry Campbell-Price (retired) - Santa Rosa Junior College, who presented this in earlier form at an ACCE conference in 2010.

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