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Review of Socialist Thinking Early 1800s

Review of Socialist Thinking Early 1800s. French, German, Great Britain. French. Marie Jean Antoine Nicolas de Caritat Condorcet Claude Henri de Rouvroy Comte de Saint-Simon. Marie Jean Antoine Nicolas de Caritat Condorcet. A physiocrat of Human Development

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Review of Socialist Thinking Early 1800s

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  1. Review of Socialist ThinkingEarly 1800s French, German, Great Britain

  2. French • Marie Jean Antoine Nicolas de Caritat Condorcet • Claude Henri de Rouvroy Comte de Saint-Simon

  3. Marie Jean Antoine Nicolas de Caritat Condorcet • A physiocrat of Human Development • Mankind in a trek towards “truth and well-being”

  4. Claude Henri de Rouvroy Comte de Saint-Simon(1760-1825) • Role of the Government was to do: • “INDUSTRIAL ADMINISTRATION”

  5. Industrial Parliament

  6. Chamber of Inventions • Duties: To Select projects needed • Composition: 300 Members • 200 Civil Engineers • 50 Poets • 25 Artists • 15 Architects • 10 Musicians

  7. Chamber of Examination • Duties: Determine the physical feasibility of the project submitted by the Chamber of Invention • Composition: 300 Members • Mathematicians • Physicist • a few other scientist

  8. Chamber of Execution: • Duties: To review the proposed projects initiated by the Chamber of Inventions and approved by the Chamber of Execution as feasible • Power: • Has veto power of any and all projects • Ability to tax and fund project • Composition: No specific number. Members represent all business sectors

  9. J. C. L. Sismonde de Sismondi (1773-1848) • Strong opposition to the “Abstract” nature of the approach taken by Ricardo • Argued that economics should always be “NORMATIVE” rather the “POSITIVE”

  10. German Socialist Rather Historicism

  11. Friedrich List (1789-1846)

  12. Historical Evolution(5 stages of development) • Barbaric • Pastoral • Agricultural • Agricultural/ Manufacturing • Agricultural/ Manufacturing • Agricultural/ Manufacturing/ Commerce

  13. List’s Criticism of Classical Economics • Unlike Classical Economist, he argued that Economic Theory should be strongly nationalistic and historical. • He used his Historical Stages to indicate how even within a country regions with different stages of development should have different economic theories

  14. List’s Criticism of Classical Economics (Cont.) • Free trade that displaces either population or domestic industry is undesirable • He criticize the Classical Economist for sacrificing the future for the present. He argued: • The power of producing wealth is … infinitely more important than wealth itself

  15. OLDER Wilhelm Roseher Abstract from Ricardo wrong since actions are based on the Reality developed by History YOUNGER Gustav Schmoller Even stronger sentiment against Ricardo Historical

  16. Utopian Socialist Great Britain

  17. Robert Owen (1771-1858) Welsh

  18. Robert Owen • A New View of Society • Main point: Individual Character is formed by for him not by him • In a Report to the County of Lanark (1821) he sets the following eight principles: • character is universally formed for him not by him • Any habits and sentiments may be given to mankind

  19. Report to the County of Lanark(cont.) • The affections are not under the control of the individual • Every individual may be trained to produce far more than he can consume, while there is sufficiency of soil left for him to cultivate • Nature has provided means by which population may be at all times maintained in the proper state to five the greatest happiness to every individual, without one check of vice or misery

  20. Report to the County of Lanark(cont.) • Any community may be arranged, on a due combination of the forgoing principles, in such a manner as not only to withdraw vice, poverty, and, in a great degree, misery from the world, but also to place every individual under such circumstances in which he shall enjoy more permanent happiness than can be given to any individual under the principles which have heretofore regulated society

  21. Report to the County of Lanark(cont.) • That all the assumed fundamental principles on which society has hitherto been founded are erroneous, and may be demonstrated to be contrary to fact. • That the change which would follow the abandonment of these erroneous maxims which bring misery to the world, and the adoption of principles of truth, unfolding a system which shall remove and forever exclude that misery, may be effected without the slightest injury to any human being.

  22. New Lanark Mills • In 1800, after the marriage to the daughter of the proprietor, he commence management of the New Lanark Mill. • He put his principles at work by providing to the workers: • housing • children’s education • raised wages • decrease working hours • other social improvements to the community

  23. New Lanark Mills(cont.) • Result: • HE MADE LARGE PROFITS • Other partners removed him from job • He got disillusioned and moved to Indiana where he began a new experiment at New Harmony

  24. New Harmony • New Harmony was founded by the Harmony Society in 1814. In 1814 this utopian • Religious community was sold to Robert Owen. Owen attracted scholars, scientists

  25. New Harmony • and educators to his frontier commune and together they made a profound impact • on American science, literature and art. Their homes and way of life are faithfully preserved and interpreted beginning at the Athenaeum, itself an

  26. New Harmony • important piece of modern American architecture. North and Arthur Streets, • (812) 682-4474. Open daily April-October, November-March, call for hours

  27. Charles Fourier 1772-1837

  28. Simple Celadony Composite Celadony Bimodal Celadony Multimodal Celadony One purely spiritual relationship One compound relationship (physical and spiritual) One spiritual and one compound One spiritual and many compound The New World of LoveFour Harmonies

  29. Stages of Historical Evolution • Confussion • Savagery • Patriachism • Barbarity • Human Bliss (8,000 years) • REPEAT THE CYCLES

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