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FRIENDSHIP

FRIENDSHIP. FRIENDSHIP OF LOVERS Question of permanence (time) Immeasurability of love? Conflict of desire/ motive ( telos ): enjoyment vs. gain Complains: excess of love is not met (though nothing is lovable about her) Loving for the sake of pleasure/ utility

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FRIENDSHIP

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  1. FRIENDSHIP • FRIENDSHIP OF LOVERS • Question of permanence (time) • Immeasurability of love? • Conflict of desire/ motive (telos): • enjoyment vs. gain • Complains: excess of love is not met (though nothing is lovable about her) • Loving for the sake of pleasure/ utility • Non-possession of qualities expected of someone.

  2. GREEK WORDS FOR LOVE • EROS • Intense desire for something: beauty (Platonic) • To love is to love the platonic form of beauty • Not the person but the element present in the person • Sexual desire (erotic) • Present in the desire of the animals • Enduring? • PHILIA • Family, state: appreciation (qualities) of others • Loyalty: job or discipline • Love is being useful and pleasing • Enduring? • AGAPE • Complete vs utility & pleasure • Reciprocity: subj-obj

  3. FRIENDSHIP • IMPORTANT: PERSON OR QUALITIES? • Loving the person rather than the qualities • One who wishes the good • Love starts in attraction (goodwill) • Similar tastes • Loving oneself first • we cannot give that which we don’t have • Something is desirable in us/ something is good in us • Wicked man = duty vs. actions • What he does clashes with what he ought to do • Good man: • what he ought to do, he does • Obeys his reason

  4. PROBLEMS WITH RELATIONSHIP & HAPPINESS • DESTINY AND FREEWILL (pre-determinism) • PASSION VS REASON • MOVE ON, LET GO • SOCIETY

  5. DESTINY & FREEWILL • Belief: soul mates • STOICISM • IRRATIONAL

  6. PASSION VS REASON

  7. MOVE ON, LET GO • ADVANTAGE + PLEASURE • CONSEQUENCES • Ok: if friendship is based on pleasure or utility. • Pretending to love us • If a friend appears to be wicked? • Attempt: Capacity for reformation (change) • Transformation: intellect of a child – intellect of an adult • We can only love what is “good” • “so how are we to know that it just isn’t so… that we just have to let each other go…” • “If loving you is all that means to me, when being happy is all I hope you’d be… then loving you must mean I really have to set you free.”

  8. SOCIETY • GUARANTOR: virtue and happiness • Possible to be of great friend to many people? • One cannot live with many people and divide oneself up among them. • Girl bestfriend and a girlfriend • Muslim culture • Birthday party • “sanadalawaangpusoko”

  9. COMPLETE FRIENDSHIP • Reason • Mutual: dignity as a person • Reciprocity = return made should be fair to both parties • Similarities/ partnership • Sense of living/ sharing together • Pursuit to improve each other = marriage • Not fair to return the equivalent of what one has received? • To render to each class what is appropriate and becoming. • Equal Rights = democracy = polis

  10. Common? • Same sex marriage? • Is there an honor in Suicides?

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