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Paul Mckay Programme Director Adult Social Care and Health Nottinghmshire

Paul Mckay Programme Director Adult Social Care and Health Nottinghmshire. Objectives of the session:. Increase awareness on self funding issues Understand Local Authorities Role and Duty Understand what can be done Develop an Action Plan. 50:50.

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Paul Mckay Programme Director Adult Social Care and Health Nottinghmshire

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  1. Paul MckayProgramme DirectorAdult Social Care and HealthNottinghmshire

  2. Objectives of the session: • Increase awareness on self funding issues • Understand Local Authorities Role and Duty • Understand what can be done • Develop an Action Plan

  3. 50:50 Welcome to Self Funding Awareness Quiz Get paper and pen ready 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 1 £100

  4. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 Put these in the order in which they came into force. 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: Care Homes Regulations B: Registered Homes Act C: National Assistance Act D: Community Care Act

  5. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 At what level of capital do you have to be liable to pay the full cost of a Care Home 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 £18,500+ A: £29,000+ B: C: £21,500+ D: £23,000+

  6. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 Capital of what level is disregarded when deciding how much someone should contribute to the cost of their care? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: £13,750 B: £9,000 C: £17,000 D: £10,000

  7. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 13 £250,000 How many people does CSCI estimate are self funders in England? 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: 30% B: 26% C: 10% D: 50%

  8. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 How many weeks is the property disregard? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: 11 weeks B: 10 weeks C: 12 weeks D: 9 weeks

  9. Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations! You’ve Reached the £1,000 Milestone!

  10. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 How many homes are estimated to be sold each year to pay for Care Home fees? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: 25,000 B: 40,000 D: 35,000 C: 50,000

  11. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 How many people take financial advise before becoming a self funder? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: 10% B: 20% D: 2% C: 5%

  12. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 What is the financial approx cost last year to a LA the size of Nottinghamshire? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: £500,000 B: £750,000 C: £1,100,000 D: £1million

  13. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 How many people each year ask the LA to pick up the cost of their care who were previously self funding? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: 125 B: 200 C: 100 D: 115

  14. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 When do LAs have a duty to assess the needs of people who are self funders? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: When in the home B: At £23,000 C: At £30,000 D: When approached

  15. Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations! You’ve Reached the £32,000 Milestone!

  16. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 How many Care Homes request a community care assessment for self funders? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 B: Less than 5% A: All C: Approx 50% D: Approx 10%

  17. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 What is the estimate number of people that will need support in the future? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 B: 1 in 5 A: 1 in 6 D: 1 in 3 C: 1 in 4

  18. 15 How many people in 100 have less than £23,000 when they first enter a Care Home & should not be self funding? £1 Million 14 £500,000 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: 30 in 100 B: 1 in 100 C: 6 in 100 D: 10 in 100

  19. 15 £1 Million Can anything be done? 14 £500,000 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 A: Yes B: Maybe D: Don’t know C: Ask a friend

  20. 15 £1 Million 14 £500,000 What is it??? 13 £250,000 12 £125,000 11 £64,000 10 £32,000 9 £16,000 8 £8,000 7 £4,000 6 £2,000 5 £1,000 4 £500 3 £300 2 £200 50:50 1 £100 B: NHFA and HTA Care Fees Advice A: C: D:

  21. NHFA and HTA Care Fees Planning: • Advice provided by NHFA • leading Care Fees Advice specialist for over 17 years • Regulated by FSA – independent • Member of HSBC Group since July 2005 • Help the Aged Care Fees Advice for 12 years

  22. Why specialist advice? • Financial advice cannot be divorced from legislative advice or knowledge • Knowledge of ever-changing legislation • Advisers with specialist qualification - CF8 as stipulated by the FSA • Later Life Accreditation • Knowledge of available benefits • Receive ongoing advice

  23. Specialist financial advice • Financial advice: • To show affordability of chosen care • Enable care fees to be paid for as long as possible • Ensure all available benefits claimed • Legislative Advice • Lasting Power of Attorney • Wills

  24. Benefit to care provider • Helping residents and family access specialist advice and information • Enabling people to make an informed decision on how to fund their care for as long as they need it without running out of money • Where possible, guaranteed payment of care fees for as long as the care is needed

  25. Next steps . . . • Continue to work with homes, social care teams and other sources to raise awareness of the service available • Attendance at Residents and Relative meetings by a qualified care fees advice Adviser • Supply home with literature to distribute • Access to the advice helpline • Commitment from care providers to help ensure that people receive and advice and information from the start

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