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History & The Bible

History & The Bible. August 26, 2008. Scriptural Theme Today. Acts 13. Academia Theme: The Rise of Greek Mythology. Where Does It Come From? Where Does It Begin? When Do The gods show up?. Some Old Names Some New Names. We’ll Meet Eusebius We’ll Say Hi (Again) to Herodotus

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History & The Bible

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  1. History & The Bible August 26, 2008

  2. Scriptural Theme Today • Acts 13

  3. Academia Theme:The Rise of Greek Mythology • Where Does It Come From? • Where Does It Begin? • When Do The gods show up?

  4. Some Old Names Some New Names • We’ll Meet Eusebius • We’ll Say Hi (Again) to Herodotus • We’ll Meet Homer (Briefly) • We’ll Do a “Hi, How Are You?” • To Socrates

  5. 2 Weeks From Now • Socrates – Please Don’t Miss This

  6. Why Are We Focusing On It • Paul Has To Deal With It • Peter Has To Deal With It • John Has To Deal With It

  7. To Know Greek History Think Like a Greek • If The New is The Old Revealed & The Old is the New Concealed then… • The Above Is Greek Logic • If Then Statements • The Foundation of Greek Mythology is built on two Statements – 2 Premise Statements to be More Precise • IF - THEN

  8. Some Simple Famous If Then Statements • If You are a Good Doctor Then You are a Good Killer • If You are a Good Police Officer Then You are a Good Thief • If you are a Good Politician ThenYou Are a Good Liar

  9. The Most Famous If Then Statements of All • If We Exist Then We Have an Origin • If We Have an Origin Then We Know Why We Are Here • These are the two core statements of Greek Mythology and why it came in to existence

  10. There Are 3 Mortals That Have Figured If Then Out More Than Anyone Else • Socrates (Come Back in 2 Weeks) • The Apostle Paul (James Stewart – A Man in Christ) Available For $30 – Pay Craig • Eusebius

  11. We Have Focused On 4 Places • Egypt • Crete • Rhodes • China

  12. We Have Focused On The Origins of Man • China (Dr. Tryon) • South America (Dr. Tryon) • Mediterranean • Egypt • Near East

  13. We Have Focused On The Absence Of Historical Places • Atlantis (Dr. Tryon)

  14. We Have Focused On One Tribe • Dan

  15. We Have Focused On One Animal • The Bull

  16. We Have Focused On 6 Dates • 4004 BC • 2350 to 2300 BC • 1745 to 1635 BC • 1480 BC • 1440 BC • 1400 BC

  17. We Have Focused On One Object For Dating Time & Events • Pottery

  18. Before The Greeks Were The • Minoans (Crete) • Egyptians

  19. So Let’s Get Into It • What is the oldest Greek Mythology Can Be? • The Apostle Paul

  20. The Apostle Paul • The Show Down • That Shuts Down Greek Mythology

  21. Acts 13:1 - 21 • Let’s Read

  22. Acts 13 : 6 • “Sorcerer” • In the Greek – What Does This Word Mean?

  23. The Greek Word Is • Magos • Root word for astrologer, magician or sorcerer.

  24. Means - Astrologer • Well --- What does Astrologer Mean?

  25. Definition • One that attempts to interpret the influence of the heavenly bodies on human affairs.

  26. Let’s Crash Course Greek Mythology • Define the Date of the starting point of the gods (The Heavenly Bodies That Influence the Affairs of Men) • Define the Order of the gods

  27. Earliest Dates • 4004 BC or 2348/2300 BC • 4004 BC is the date of what? • 2348 BC is the date of what? • 50 Years To Populate the Earth

  28. Original Greek Mythological God • Who was the first Greek Mythological God? • Pretty Easy Question

  29. NOT ZEUS – But CHAOS • No Origin Date – Always Has Been

  30. From Chaos • What Were The First gods from Chaos? • Just Pause & Think • Think The Bible • From This Moment Forward – WRITE DOWN THE GREEK GOD ON PAPER IF YOU SEE IT IN RED

  31. The Genesis of Original Gods • Erebus & Night - Erebus Means“Dark Shadow” • From Them Came “Air & Day” • From Dark Shadow Came Death, Sleep & Dreams, & Fate • From the above Comes Mother Earth Which Produces The Titans

  32. From “Mother Earth” Came • The Titans • The Twelve Titans: Males Left – Females Right • Oceanus and Tethys, • Hyperion and Theia, • Coeus and Phoebe, • Cronus and Rhea, • Mnemosyne and Themis, • Crius and Iapetus

  33. Remember Dr. Tryon • Who Did Dr. Tryon Lecture About? • Who Did He Lecture About as it Relates to the Origin of China?

  34. Oceanus / Noah

  35. How Do We Date The Titans • Pottery! • Remember It’s All About the Pottery • The Titans Show Up on Pottery 2000 BC • The Earliest Dates For Any of the Titans is 2000 BC Found on Pottery in Egypt (Bronze Age Dating) and Crete (Minoan Age Dating)

  36. From The Titans Came • The Twelve Olympians • Zeus - Hera • Hermes - Poseidon • Demeter - Hestia • Aphrodite - Apollo • Ares – Artemis • Athena – Hephaestus Hades, the brother of Poseidon & Zeus ignored as an Olympian

  37. How Do We Date The Olympians • Pottery! (Remember It’s All About the Pottery) • The Earliest Dates of Any of the Olympians on Pottery is 1700 BC (Zeus) • ApolloDoesn’t Show Up on Pottery Till 1400 BC

  38. From the Olympians According To Plato Comes the Zodiac

  39. From The Olympians – Come the Heroes • Jason • Pan • Bellerophon • Theseus • Odysseus • Perseus • Hercules • Achilles

  40. How Do We Date the Heroes • Pottery! (Remember it’s all about the pottery) • The earliest dates on Pottery for the Heroes is 1250 BC • Pan is the Earliest – 1250 BC • Hercules is the latest – 1100 BC

  41. From The Heroes – Come The Trojan War • Homer’s Epics

  42. From The Trojan War • Comes The Odyssey • The Wanderings of Odysseus • Hello Again, Homer • Epic Poems • The Odyssey • The Iliad

  43. That’s Greek Mythology in A Nut Shell • So Where Did The Greek gods Get Their Origins? • Who Were They In History?

  44. You Should Have These Six Names Written Down

  45. Key Greek Mythological Figures • Chaos • Zeus • Apollo • Poseidon • Pan • Hercules

  46. Our Friend … Herodotus • According to Herodotus, “the rituals of the Greek Gods (the Olympians) apart fromPoseidon were exactly the same as those of the Egyptian gods who were brought to Crete & Greece from the time of 1700 to 1480 BC. Since the worship of Poseidon did not originate from Egypt.”

  47. Eusebius 263 AD – 339 AD • Wrote In Response To Christian Persecution • Passionate About Constantine • Wrote Ecclesiastical History • Wrote Preparation of the Gospel • AKA The Demonstration of the Gospel

  48. Demonstration of the GospelBroken into 12 Chapters / Books • 3 Major Points • (1) The abandonment of the ancestral religion of the Greeks • (2) The acceptance of the foreign doctrines of the Barbarians, i. e. Jews • (3) The inconsistency of rejecting the Jewish sacrifices, rites, and general manner of life, while appropriating their sacred Scriptures and promised blessings

  49. Continued • The first three books discuss the threefold system of Pagan Theology, Mythical, Allegorical, and Political (788 b 3-d 3). The next three, IV-VI, give an account of the chief oracles, of the worship of daemons, and of the various opinions of Greek philosophers on the doctrines of Fate and Free Will. • Books VII-IX give reasons for preferring the religion of the Hebrews founded chiefly on the testimony of various authors to the excellency of their Scriptures and the truth of their history. |xix  • In Books X-XII Eusebius argues that the Greeks had borrowed from the older theology and philosophy of the Hebrews, dwelling especially on the dependence of Plato upon Moses. • In the last three books the comparison of Plato with Moses is continued, and the mutual contradictions of other Greek philosophers, especially the Peripatetics and Stoics, are exposed and criticized.

  50. Where Did The Greeks Get Their Mythology • In Books X-XII Eusebius argues that the Greeks had borrowed from the older theology and philosophy of the Hebrews

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