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St. John Bosco Community College

St. John Bosco Community College. CAREER GUIDANCE CAO PRESENTATION 2013/14 Ms. Ryan. OVERVIEW. Further Education Programmes Higher Education Courses Apprenticeships Grants HEAR DARE. Further Education. FETAC (PLC) Teagasc Fáilte Ireland Apprenticeships Private Colleges

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St. John Bosco Community College

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  1. St. John Bosco Community College CAREER GUIDANCE CAO PRESENTATION 2013/14 Ms. Ryan

  2. OVERVIEW • Further Education Programmes • Higher Education Courses • Apprenticeships • Grants • HEAR • DARE

  3. Further Education • FETAC (PLC) • Teagasc • Fáilte Ireland • Apprenticeships • Private Colleges • Gardaí/Army etc

  4. FETAC Courses • Enhance job prospects/practical • Provides an alternative into 3rd level • Up to 400 points can be obtained to gain entry to most IT’s for most courses (check prospectuses) • Linked Scheme for some HEI courses eg Nursing Studies linked to Nursing Degrees, Business Studies linked to B.Commerce etc. Reserved places for FETAC students. • 1/2year fulltime programme • Available in 2nd level schools & FE Colleges • Wide range – IT, Childcare, Secretarial, Beauty Therapy, Hairdressing etc

  5. Cont…. • FETAC Certification • No fees (apart from registration fees) • Eligible for grant, subject to means test. • Apply directly to school/college as early as possible ie February/March. • Interviews often held early in the New Year

  6. TEAGASC • Handbook • Cert in farming • Cert in horse production • Cert in pig production etc.. • Courses in forestry, butter & cheese making • Courses in commercial horticulture • Apply directly to the college/Teagasc/CAO

  7. FAILTE IRELAND • Recognised worldwide. • Bar Management; Professional Cookery; Travel Agency etc • Travel • www.picktourism.ie • Closing date Feb.1st • Apply to CAO

  8. APPRENTICESHIPS • Over 16 • 5 D’s in J. Cert • Find employment-must be registered with FÁS • 7 phases – on the job, off the job • www.fás.ie

  9. PRIVATE COLLEGES • Fee paying • Offers an alternative to CAO colleges • Montessori, Beauty Therapy, Interior Design etc • Some provide scholarships

  10. Gardaí All information on www.garda.ie Consider college courses which might increase recruitment chances when recruiting re-commences.

  11. The Defence Forces All information on www.military.ie Cadetships General Enlistment Apprenticeships

  12. HIGHER EDUCATION • UCAS-application now in progress • CAO-www.cao.ie • Eastern Europe www.medstudy.org

  13. Level 6,7&8 Courses • Level 6 = Higher Cert 2 Years • Level 7 = Ordinary Degree 3 Years • Level 8 = Honours Degree 3/4 Years • NB Progression Route

  14. Ladder System Progression Route Institutesof Technology

  15. MINIMUM ENTRY REQUIREMENTS • IT’s – 5 passes at O.L. including Eng/Ir & Maths (Foundation Level Maths accepted in some cases) for Level 6 & 7 courses ( plus minimum points in some colleges eg. GMIT 140 points) • Universities & IT’s –2 H.L C’s and passes in 4 others for Level 8 courses(some changes for 2014 ie UCC)TCD….min of 3 HL C’s and pass 3 others • NUI Colleges-as above & Irish, English and a 3rd language (exceptions apply). • Maths is not required for all courses (check prospectuses).

  16. Cont…. • Some universities are quite specific about requirements….NB check very carefully • Foundation level Maths accepted in many colleges, but not for courses where Maths is a requirement ie Engineering • LCVP can be counted for points, but not always as a subject requirement for matriculation purposes.

  17. SPECIFIC COURSE REQUIREMENTS • Minimum requirements & specific requirements in some cases eg. Primary School Teaching- HC3 in Irish & Engineering in Uni’s-HC3 in Maths & a Science subject. • All details on requirements on www.cao.ie/www.qualifax.ie • Special Maths Exam ie NUIG, NUI Maynooth….

  18. NUI Colleges • NUIG • UCC • UCD • NUI Maynooth • RCSI • Shannon College of Hotel Management • Linked- NCAD; St. Angela’s

  19. RESTRICTED COURSES • Courses that require more than just points (This is indicated on CAO Handbook) • Art-portfolio • Music-assessment • Medicine- HPAT • Specific dates –March/April, on Career notice-board, CAO website, HEI websites

  20. Medicine • Min.480 points; must achieve required subjects & points in same sitting of LC • Complete HPAT-Ireland aptitude test www.hpat-ireland.acer.edu.au • €115.Apply early Nov.--Jan 20 • Test Sat March 1st 2014 • Combine LC & Aptitude results

  21. Medicine cont…. • Must apply to CAO before HPAT • Restricted entry, NB Feb 1st deadline • Graduate entry • 2.1 in primary degree • Approx.€12,000-€13,000 per annum • Vet. medicine-graduate entry-UCD

  22. Medicine cont… From 2014, you must sit the HPAT the same year as you apply for Medicine, with the exception of last years students. All details on points and combination of points etc on website.

  23. POINTS • Based on competition for places • Can go up/down • Best 6 subjects from one L. Cert. sitting • Bonus Points HL Maths(D3-A1= +25points) • New Courses….points will not be known until after the LC and points depend on demand.

  24. CAO APPLICATION • On-line discounted rate €25-Jan 20th • Deadline Feb 1st 5.15pm-€40 • Online application is available from Nov.5 2013 • 10 Level 8 options, 10 Level 6 & 7options • NB* Order of genuine preference!!!!!!!!!!!! • May get offered 2 places • NB* 3rd,4th,5th …choices….

  25. Cont….. • Read CAO instructions very carefully. • Correct Personal Details crucial. • Correct Course Codes/CAO HANDBOOK 2014 ONLY! • Check www.cao.ie for changes to the CAO HANBOOK 2014. Also Alert Lists. • Power point presentation on www.cao.ie ‘Mapping Your Future’. CAO Online Application Walkthrough; Demo. • Use ‘My Application’ on-line facility

  26. CONT….. • Cert of postage • Restricted courses • If you apply by paper application, you must contact CAO for Application Fee Payment Form • NB check statement sent out in May • NB* YOUR RESPONSIBILITY

  27. POINTS SYSTEM Generally in the CAO system No. of qualified applicants > No. of course places --> selection system is needed. Selection system used in Irish 3rd Level Colleges is POINTS SYSTEM • Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only. • Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects • Bonus points are awarded for Honours Mathematics • Entry Requirements can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate

  28. POINTS ALLOCATION GradeHonoursOrdinary A1 100 60 A2 90 50 B1 85 45 B2 80 40 B3 75 35 C1 70 30 C2 65 25 C3 60 20 D1 55 15 D2 50 10 D3 45 5

  29. Making an application Applications are made online. Always keep proof of sending application: online – print screen receipt, paper – obtain certificate of post. Form is very straight forward to fill out. www.cao.ie **VERY IMPORTANT** Students must fill out both course lists in: Genuine Order of Preference They should not put down courses on the basis of their predictions of next years cut off points or their own points scores. Why? – Look at how places are allocated.

  30. Applicant Position Applicant Position Points Score Points Score Science – UCD 100 places to be offered Course Merit Lists Science – Maynooth 100 places to be offered 1 560 1 560 2 535 2 535 3 525 3 525 4 520 4 520 5 510 5 510 6 510 6 510 7 505 7 505 8 500 8 500 9 490 9 490 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 15 455 15 455 16 445 16 445 17 440 17 440 18 435 18 435 19 420 19 420 20 410 20 410 21 405 21 405 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 98 340 98 345 99 335 99 340 100 330 100 335 101 325 101 335 102 315 102 335 103 310 103 315 104 305 104 310 105 295 105 305 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 182 265 182 265  Last place to be filled  Random Selection to be used Course Cut Off Points = 330 Course Cut Off Points = 335*

  31. Random Entry Two or more candidates on the same points Random number given to each application Highest random Number gets the place Shown by an * For example 370* means not every candidate with 370 points got a place but everyone with 375 would have

  32. A Students Course Preferences - Example All Lower Preference Courses Disappear From Students Preferences Students Points Total = 445 Cut Off Points for Course NO NO YES YES NO YES NO YES YES YES

  33. ROUND 2 7 round one places not accepted 3 round one places not accepted  Last place to be filled - Round 1  Last place to be filled – Round 1  Last place to be filled - Round 2  Last place to be filled - Round 2 Round 2 cut off points - 455 Round 2 cut off points - 460

  34. So – what is the best way to fill in the courses? Dream Courses Realistic Courses Banker Courses

  35. STATEMENT OF COURSE CHOICES • On-line applicants will not get a statement until May, will receive CAO no. on-line and changes can be made up to March 1st (10 euro) • Only make changes if you need to add a restricted course. • Check that course choices are correct • May need to return an amended statement • Use CAO no. for any correspondence

  36. CHANGE OF MIND • All applicants receive a statement before the end of May . • Can change your mind on-line or by paper from May 5th approx. until July 1st • No fee • Cannot add restricted courses at this stage..exceptions….

  37. OFFER OF PLACES • By post • On-line • Round 1- week after L. Cert. Results • Round 2-early Sept. • After Round 2 if vacancies still available • Accept on line or by post, NOT BOTH, within specified time limit • Vacant places.

  38. DEFERRED ENTRY • Must seek agreement of HEI • Not guaranteed • Check in advance with Admissions Office • Do not accept the offer • Write to Admissions Office. Pg.5 CAO Handbook • Following year, reapply putting the deferred course as the ONLY PREFERENCE • Can re-apply as normal if you change your mind

  39. Grants, Access Programmes etc • Grant info. www.studentfinance.ie. Also www.qualifax.ie/Grant calculator. • Student contribution fee is €2,750. Grant may cover this. • Scholarships-academic-depends on LC results • Sports Scholarships-apply to college

  40. ACCESS PROGRAMMES • HEAR/Socio-economic access route: 3 INDICATORS/Why apply?/How to apply?/Key Dates 1st Feb & 1st April/Workbooks in Career Office or download from website. Advice Clinic Jan 11 2014 • DARE/Disability access route/Psychological reports dated after Feb.1st 2011/Why apply?/How to apply?/Key Dates, as above. Advice Clinic Jan 11 2014 • OTHERS, eg. GMIT; Sligo IT “Breaking The Mould”/apply directly to Access Office of college.

  41. CHOOSING A CAREER • RESEARCH…RESEARCH…RESEARCH • Use Career’s Library, every Monday lunch-time • Mentaga aptitude tests/Interest Inventories • Other college literature • Organisations, Associations…. • Visit websites ie www.cao.ie; www.careersportal.ie • Talk to friends, past students… • Work experience etc

  42. Websites • www.hrc.ie Go to Career’s link • www.qualifax course search • www.cao.ie • www.careerdirections.ie • www.careersportal.ie

  43. Study Skills • Time management • Organisation • Phone off! • Regular breaks • Regular Meals • Memory techniques • Constant review

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