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LDS Heroes

LDS Heroes. John P. Dehlin. Fun LDS Heroes. John P. Dehlin. Nephi. Nephi’s Arm. Ammon. Ammon’s Chest. Abinadi. Not bad, eh?. Mormon. Holy Cow!!!. LDS Superheroes. Obadiah Stane. Cypher. Joseph Smith. “I am one of the three. I am Nephite.”. Traditional LDS Heroes. John P. Dehlin.

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LDS Heroes

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  1. LDS Heroes • John P. Dehlin

  2. Fun LDS Heroes • John P. Dehlin

  3. Nephi

  4. Nephi’s Arm

  5. Ammon

  6. Ammon’s Chest

  7. Abinadi

  8. Not bad, eh?

  9. Mormon

  10. Holy Cow!!!

  11. LDS Superheroes

  12. Obadiah Stane Cypher Joseph Smith

  13. “I am one of the three. I am Nephite.”

  14. Traditional LDS Heroes • John P. Dehlin

  15. Joseph Smith

  16. Eliza R. Snow

  17. Mary Fielding Smith

  18. Brigham Young

  19. David O. McKay

  20. Gordon B. Hinckley

  21. Heroes ... all of them

  22. Non-Traditional LDS Heroes • John P. Dehlin

  23. A few disclaimers...

  24. I am not a role model

  25. All of the following represents.... • My limited understanding of LDS history • My (changing) version of the narrative(s)Warning: Do not believe ANYTHING I say at face value!!! Study it our for yourselves.

  26. “The Church welcomes inquisitiveness....[but] not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole.” Church.” • From “Approaching Mormon Doctrine”LDS Church • 4 May 2007

  27. “A man’s called a traitor, or liberator.A rich man’s a thief, or philanthropist.Is one a crusader, or ruthless invader?It’s all in what labels are able to persist.There are precious few at ease with moral ambiguitiesSo we act as though they don’t exist.” • From “Wicked” The Musical

  28. “No black hats, no white hats.”Gregory Prince

  29. Non-Traditional LDS Heroes • John P. Dehlin

  30. Emma Smith

  31. “Joseph and Emma Smith's marriage of 17 years was blessed with 11 children (2 adopted), 6 of whom died in infancy.”http://JosephSmith.net

  32. In his journal for 1842, Joseph reflected:"Many were the reverberations of my mind when I contemplated for a moment the many scenes we had been called to pass through. The fatigues, and the toils, the sorrows, and sufferings, and the joys and consolations from time to time [which] had strewed our paths and crowned our board. Oh! What a co-mingling of thought filled my mind for the moment, again she is here . . . undaunted, firm and unwavering, unchangeable, affectionate Emma."

  33. Why didn’t I hear much about Emma growing up?

  34. "To my certain knowledge, Emma Smith is one of the damnedest liars I know of on this earth. Not six months before the death of Joseph, he called [her] into a secret council.... He told her of the time she undertook to poison him, and he told her that she was a child of hell, and literally the most wicked woman on this earth, that there was not one more wicked than she.” Brigham Young -- Utah Historical Quarterly, vol. 48, Winter 1980, 82From http://fairlds.org

  35. Emma’s Main Issue:Polygamy

  36. The History of Polygamy Is Messy • Joseph received revelation in 1831, but apparently others were not informed (Emma & 1st presidency members, etc.) • Emma found out about it by finding Joseph with other women • The 1835 version of the D&C openly renounces polygamy, and denies its practice by the church • In 1838 Oliver Cowdery was excommunicated for accusing Joseph of “adultery” -- not knowing about the revelation • Joseph Smith, himself, publicly denied the practice of polygamy until his death. • The church did not publicly acknowledge it into the 1850s. • Even after we promised to stop (1890), we kept doing it

  37. “I condemn it, yes, as a practice, because I think it is not doctrinal.” President Gordon B. Hinckley on Larry King Live Aired September 8, 1998 - 9:00 p.m. ET

  38. Can we understand Emma’s confusion?

  39. B.H. Roberts

  40. B.H. Roberts’ Issue:Organic Evolution

  41. In B. H. Roberts' The Truth, The Way, The Life, [t]he hottest issue ... was organic evolution. [H]is assertion that countless plants and animals lived long before the biblical chronology was controversial. “Richard Sherlock and Jeffrey E. Keller“The B. H. Roberts/Joseph Fielding Smith/James E. Talmage Affair”

  42. Apostles James E. Talmadge and John A. Widstoe seemed to share B.H. Roberts’ Views on Evolution

  43. How did the LDS church become so “anti-Evolution”?

  44. "The doctrine of organic evolution which pervades the modern day sciences .... is as false as their author who lives in hell." Joseph Fielding SmithAuthor of “Man: His Origin and Destiny”

  45. “How weak and puerile the intellectuality which ... finds comfort in the theoretical postulates that mortal life began in the scum of the sea, as it were, and has through eons of time evolved to its present varieties and state! Do those with spiritual insight really think that the infinite Creator of worlds without number would operate in this way?Bruce R. McConkieMormon Doctrine

  46. The answer: Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce R. McConkie outlived Roberts, Talmadge and Widstoe

  47. DAVID O. McKAY, PRESIDENTFebruary 15, 1957 Professor William Lee Stokes2970 South 15th EastSalt Lake City, Utah Dear Brother Stokes: On the subject of organic evolution the Church has officially taken no position. The book "Man, His Origin and Destiny" [by Joseph Fielding Smith] was not published by the Church, and is not approved by the Church. The book contains expressions of the author's views for which he alone is responsible. Sincerely your brother,[signed] David O. McKayDialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 12:? (Winter 1979): 90–92 , with commentary..

  48. Fawn Brodie

  49. “No Man Knows My History”

  50. “No Ma’am That’s Not History”Hugh Nibley

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