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    1. Reeves Debate Charts Thursday Night

    2. This Discussion Is About – Three Points

    3. Proved Contradictions “I am somebody who is very concerned about not contradicting myself. And if somebody can demonstrate to me that I have some contradiction in my interpretation, then I’ll agree that it’s time for me to abandon that interpretation.”“I am somebody who is very concerned about not contradicting myself. And if somebody can demonstrate to me that I have some contradiction in my interpretation, then I’ll agree that it’s time for me to abandon that interpretation.”

    4. Blunders & Absurdities of Mr. Cook

    5. Acts Historical Narrative -

    6. The Faith of Abraham

    7. Washing of Regeneration - Titus 3:4-5

    8. John 3:5 – Acts 2:38 – Titus 3:5 Vincent’s Word Studies – on John 3:5 Born of water and the Spirit -Let Scripture Explain Scripture The exposition of this much controverted passage does not fall within the scope of this work. We may observe, 1. That Jesus here lays down the preliminary conditions of entrance into His kingdom, expanding and explaining His statement in v. 3. 2. That this condition is here stated as complex, including two distinct factors, water and the Spirit. 3. That the former of these two factors is not to be merged in the latter; that the spiritual element is not to exclude or obliterate the external and ritual element. We are not to understand with Calvin, the Holy Spirit as the purifying water in the spiritual sense: “water which is the Spirit.” 4. That water points definitely to the rite of baptism, Barnes Be born of water. By water, here, is evidently signified baptism. Thus the word is used in Ephesians 5:26, Titus 3:5. Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown's one-volume Commentary on the Whole Bible Indeed, element of water and operation of the Spirit are brought together in a glorious evangelical prediction of Ezekiel (Ezekiel 36:25-27), which Nicodemus might have been reminded of had such spiritualities not been almost lost in the reigning formalism. Already had the symbol of water been embodied in an initiatory ordinance, in the baptism of the Jewish expectants of Messiah by the Baptist, not to speak of the baptism of Gentile proselytes before that; and in the Christian Church it was soon to become the great visible door of entrance into "the kingdom of God," the reality being the sole work of the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5).Vincent’s Word Studies – on John 3:5 Born of water and the Spirit -Let Scripture Explain Scripture The exposition of this much controverted passage does not fall within the scope of this work. We may observe, 1. That Jesus here lays down the preliminary conditions of entrance into His kingdom, expanding and explaining His statement in v. 3. 2. That this condition is here stated as complex, including two distinct factors, water and the Spirit. 3. That the former of these two factors is not to be merged in the latter; that the spiritual element is not to exclude or obliterate the external and ritual element. We are not to understand with Calvin, the Holy Spirit as the purifying water in the spiritual sense: “water which is the Spirit.” 4. That water points definitely to the rite of baptism, Barnes Be born of water. By water, here, is evidently signified baptism. Thus the word is used in Ephesians 5:26, Titus 3:5. Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown's one-volume Commentary on the Whole Bible Indeed, element of water and operation of the Spirit are brought together in a glorious evangelical prediction of Ezekiel (Ezekiel 36:25-27), which Nicodemus might have been reminded of had such spiritualities not been almost lost in the reigning formalism. Already had the symbol of water been embodied in an initiatory ordinance, in the baptism of the Jewish expectants of Messiah by the Baptist, not to speak of the baptism of Gentile proselytes before that; and in the Christian Church it was soon to become the great visible door of entrance into "the kingdom of God," the reality being the sole work of the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5).

    9. John 3:5 – Acts 2:38 – Titus 3:5

    10. Acts 8:12-17 – Explanation of Context Acts 8 shows that: 1. They were saved before they received the Holy Spirit – 2. The Holy Spirit falling upon people is NOT what saves them!! In Acts 10 – the Holy Spirit falling upon them was NOT for the purpose of saving them – but to demonstrate that God would accept them on the same basis as the Jew – by believing and obeying the gospel.Acts 8 shows that: 1. They were saved before they received the Holy Spirit – 2. The Holy Spirit falling upon people is NOT what saves them!! In Acts 10 – the Holy Spirit falling upon them was NOT for the purpose of saving them – but to demonstrate that God would accept them on the same basis as the Jew – by believing and obeying the gospel.

    11. Acts 8:12-17 – If saved then they were in Christ – Acts 10:47,48 Gift of the Holy Spirit – Acts 2:38 Cf John 4:10 – That which God gives – Living water Eph 4:7 – That which Christ gives – Spiritual gifts Acts 2:38 – That which the Holy Spirit gives – Blessings of the New Covenant Gift of the Holy Spirit – Acts 2:38 Cf John 4:10 – That which God gives – Living water Eph 4:7 – That which Christ gives – Spiritual gifts Acts 2:38 – That which the Holy Spirit gives – Blessings of the New Covenant

    12. Baptized Into Christ - Galatians 3:26-27 Can someone be saved who is not in Christ, or have not put on Christ? Were the Samaritans children of God by faith in Christ in Acts 8:12? . . . They had believed and been baptized but had not received the Holy Spirit – had to be their faith followed by water baptism that put them into Christ. You ARE IF YOU WERE – verse 28, children of Abraham by faith are people who have been baptized. This is the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham!!! Galatians 3:26-28 (NKJV) For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. [27] For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.Can someone be saved who is not in Christ, or have not put on Christ? Were the Samaritans children of God by faith in Christ in Acts 8:12? . . . They had believed and been baptized but had not received the Holy Spirit – had to be their faith followed by water baptism that put them into Christ. You ARE IF YOU WERE – verse 28, children of Abraham by faith are people who have been baptized. This is the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham!!! Galatians 3:26-28 (NKJV) For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. [27] For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

    13. Acts 22:16 – Acts 9:17-19 Acts 9:17-19 (NKJV) And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [18] Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized. [19] So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus. Acts 22:16 (NKJV) And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.' Acts 9:17-19 (NKJV) And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [18] Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized. [19] So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus. Acts 22:16 (NKJV) And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

    14. When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission? – What He Must Do Acts 22:10 (KJV) And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. Acts 22:10 (KJV) And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

    15. Cornelius – When was He Saved? Questions

    16. What did Cornelius know?? (10:37)

    17. What did they NOT know?

    18. Cornelius – Why send for Peter

    19. Cornelius – What did Peter believe & teach on baptism? Acts 10:47,48

    20. Baptism Saves Us - 1 Peter 3:20-21 - NKJV & NASB 1 Peter 3 20who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited[1] in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21There is also an antitype which now saves us--baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NKJV)  who once were disobedient, when the (1) patience of God (2) kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of (3) the ark, in which a few, that is, (4) eight (5) persons, were brought safely through the water. 21   (6) Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--(7) not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a (8) good conscience--through (9) the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NASB) Notes The expression “like figure” (KJV) or “antitype” (NKJV) is appropriately rendered and translated “corresponding to” (NASB), as Arndt and Gingrich state on this passage concerning antitupos. The correspondence is between Noah and his family’s deliverance or being saved “through water” and “baptism doth also now save us” (KJV). There is far more to the significance of baptism than merely “water,” i.e. (“not the putting away of the filth of the flesh) but the act does include immersion in water, Acts 10:48. The passage says “baptism saves.” Regardless of the doctrinal theology and sophistry that attempts to deny the clear and plain import of the passage—this Scripture still affirms that “baptism saves.” 1 Peter 320who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited[1] in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21There is also an antitype which now saves us--baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NKJV)  who once were disobedient, when the (1) patience of God (2) kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of (3) the ark, in which a few, that is, (4) eight (5) persons, were brought safely through the water. 21   (6) Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--(7) not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a (8) good conscience--through (9) the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NASB) Notes The expression “like figure” (KJV) or “antitype” (NKJV) is appropriately rendered and translated “corresponding to” (NASB), as Arndt and Gingrich state on this passage concerning antitupos. The correspondence is between Noah and his family’s deliverance or being saved “through water” and “baptism doth also now save us” (KJV). There is far more to the significance of baptism than merely “water,” i.e. (“not the putting away of the filth of the flesh) but the act does include immersion in water, Acts 10:48. The passage says “baptism saves.” Regardless of the doctrinal theology and sophistry that attempts to deny the clear and plain import of the passage—this Scripture still affirms that “baptism saves.”

    21. Baptism Saves Us - 1 Peter 3:20-21 – Negatively & Positively Attention is next directed to the nature of baptism and it is viewed both negatively and positively. On the one hand Peter explains what it is not, i.e. simply “the putting away of the filth of the flesh,” but on the other hand, it is “the answer of a good conscience toward God.” The reader will easily note that this “saving” process is connected with “the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” The phrase “filth of the flesh” refers to the dirt of the body according to some (cf. Arndt and Gingrich, 745). Other commentators argue that “the filth of the flesh” simply means that baptism in water is not simply a ceremonial cleansing of the body, but is connected with the cleansing of the heart. It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions. Attention is next directed to the nature of baptism and it is viewed both negatively and positively. On the one hand Peter explains what it is not, i.e. simply “the putting away of the filth of the flesh,” but on the other hand, it is “the answer of a good conscience toward God.” The reader will easily note that this “saving” process is connected with “the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” The phrase “filth of the flesh” refers to the dirt of the body according to some (cf. Arndt and Gingrich, 745). Other commentators argue that “the filth of the flesh” simply means that baptism in water is not simply a ceremonial cleansing of the body, but is connected with the cleansing of the heart. It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions.

    22. an “appeal” to God for a good conscience – Defined – Thayer It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions. Grammatically, we have an objective genitive and Peter is teaching that the individual participates in this act of faith in order to render his conscience clear in relation to the reception of the forgiveness of his sins and cleansing of his soul. It is also important to note that this “answer,” “appeal,” “request” etc. for a “good conscience” indicates one does not already possess such, but desires for such to be the case. Progressing further it is helpful to acknowledge that this “appeal” is not toward men, but “toward God.” Many will attempt to argue that water baptism is an “outward manifestation of inward grace,” but such teaching contradicts the word of God. This passage clearly, unequivocally and undeniably to the unprejudiced mind teaches and asserts that water baptism saves us by placing us into a relationship in which we derive the benefits of the “death” and “resurrection of Jesus Christ” (Rom. 6:3; I Peter 3:21). Peter does not teach that baptism alone saves us, but he does teach that one cannot be saved without a willingness to obey God in baptism. This passage supports my proposition: “The Scriptures teach that water baptism is necessary in order for the alien sinner to receive the forgiveness of his past sins.” It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions. Grammatically, we have an objective genitive and Peter is teaching that the individual participates in this act of faith in order to render his conscience clear in relation to the reception of the forgiveness of his sins and cleansing of his soul. It is also important to note that this “answer,” “appeal,” “request” etc. for a “good conscience” indicates one does not already possess such, but desires for such to be the case. Progressing further it is helpful to acknowledge that this “appeal” is not toward men, but “toward God.” Many will attempt to argue that water baptism is an “outward manifestation of inward grace,” but such teaching contradicts the word of God. This passage clearly, unequivocally and undeniably to the unprejudiced mind teaches and asserts that water baptism saves us by placing us into a relationship in which we derive the benefits of the “death” and “resurrection of Jesus Christ” (Rom. 6:3; I Peter 3:21). Peter does not teach that baptism alone saves us, but he does teach that one cannot be saved without a willingness to obey God in baptism. This passage supports my proposition: “The Scriptures teach that water baptism is necessary in order for the alien sinner to receive the forgiveness of his past sins.”

    23. an “appeal” to God for a good conscience – illustrated

    24. Puzzle Chart – The Pieces Fit

    26. What About The Thief On The Cross? (1) Does this one case nullify the plain teaching of Jesus Christ and His inspired apostles? Since the word of God is truth (John 17:17), it does not contradict itself. Does this case contradict the precepts of the Lord and the apostles? (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38). (2) Can you prove the thief on the cross was not baptized? "But when John preached in the wilderness and baptized in Jordan: all the land of Judea, and those from Jerusalem, went out to him and were all baptized by him in the Jordan" (Mark 1:4-5). Furthermore, Jesus "made and baptized more disciples than John" in the same region (John 4:1-3). The thief knew Jesus was Lord (Luke 23:42). How did He know that if He had not heard John, Jesus or His disciples preach? Are you sure the thief was not baptized? The burden of proof is on the one claiming him as an example of salvation without baptism. Are you willing to risk your soul on it? (3) Is the salvation of the thief on the cross a pattern for our salvation? We live in the New Testament age (Hebrews 9:13-15). The New Testament did not acquire force until after Jesus died on the cross (Hebrews 9:16-17). The Lord blessed the malefactor with the promise of paradise as they both hung on crosses, before the death of Christ. The conditions of salvation were different at that time. For example, we must believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ to be saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4), but no one could believe these facts before Jesus' resurrection. Friend, stop quibbling about the Lord's commands and obey Him. "But why do you call Me Lord, Lord,, and do not do the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46) "And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." (Acts 22:16)(1) Does this one case nullify the plain teaching of Jesus Christ and His inspired apostles? Since the word of God is truth (John 17:17), it does not contradict itself. Does this case contradict the precepts of the Lord and the apostles? (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38). (2) Can you prove the thief on the cross was not baptized? "But when John preached in the wilderness and baptized in Jordan: all the land of Judea, and those from Jerusalem, went out to him and were all baptized by him in the Jordan" (Mark 1:4-5). Furthermore, Jesus "made and baptized more disciples than John" in the same region (John 4:1-3). The thief knew Jesus was Lord (Luke 23:42). How did He know that if He had not heard John, Jesus or His disciples preach? Are you sure the thief was not baptized? The burden of proof is on the one claiming him as an example of salvation without baptism. Are you willing to risk your soul on it? (3) Is the salvation of the thief on the cross a pattern for our salvation? We live in the New Testament age (Hebrews 9:13-15). The New Testament did not acquire force until after Jesus died on the cross (Hebrews 9:16-17). The Lord blessed the malefactor with the promise of paradise as they both hung on crosses, before the death of Christ. The conditions of salvation were different at that time. For example, we must believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ to be saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4), but no one could believe these facts before Jesus' resurrection. Friend, stop quibbling about the Lord's commands and obey Him. "But why do you call Me Lord, Lord,, and do not do the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46) "And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." (Acts 22:16)

    27. John 3:5 – Acts 2:38 – Titus 3:5

    28. Acts 22:16 – Acts 9:17-19 Acts 9:17-19 (NKJV) And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [18] Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized. [19] So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus. Acts 22:16 (NKJV) And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.' Acts 9:17-19 (NKJV) And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [18] Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized. [19] So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus. Acts 22:16 (NKJV) And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

    29. When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission? – What He Must Do Acts 22:10 (KJV) And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. Acts 22:10 (KJV) And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

    30. When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission? – What He Did Acts 9:6 (NKJV) So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?" Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." Acts 9:6 (NKJV) So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?" Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."

    31. Cornelius – When was He Saved? Questions

    32. Cornelius – Why send for Peter

    33. Cornelius – What did Peter believe & teach on baptism? Acts 10:47,48

    34. Baptism Saves Us - 1 Peter 3:20-21 - NKJV & NASB 1 Peter 3 20who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited[1] in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21There is also an antitype which now saves us--baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NKJV)  who once were disobedient, when the (1) patience of God (2) kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of (3) the ark, in which a few, that is, (4) eight (5) persons, were brought safely through the water. 21   (6) Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--(7) not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a (8) good conscience--through (9) the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NASB) Notes The expression “like figure” (KJV) or “antitype” (NKJV) is appropriately rendered and translated “corresponding to” (NASB), as Arndt and Gingrich state on this passage concerning antitupos. The correspondence is between Noah and his family’s deliverance or being saved “through water” and “baptism doth also now save us” (KJV). There is far more to the significance of baptism than merely “water,” i.e. (“not the putting away of the filth of the flesh) but the act does include immersion in water, Acts 10:48. The passage says “baptism saves.” Regardless of the doctrinal theology and sophistry that attempts to deny the clear and plain import of the passage—this Scripture still affirms that “baptism saves.” 1 Peter 320who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited[1] in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21There is also an antitype which now saves us--baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NKJV)  who once were disobedient, when the (1) patience of God (2) kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of (3) the ark, in which a few, that is, (4) eight (5) persons, were brought safely through the water. 21   (6) Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--(7) not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a (8) good conscience--through (9) the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (NASB) Notes The expression “like figure” (KJV) or “antitype” (NKJV) is appropriately rendered and translated “corresponding to” (NASB), as Arndt and Gingrich state on this passage concerning antitupos. The correspondence is between Noah and his family’s deliverance or being saved “through water” and “baptism doth also now save us” (KJV). There is far more to the significance of baptism than merely “water,” i.e. (“not the putting away of the filth of the flesh) but the act does include immersion in water, Acts 10:48. The passage says “baptism saves.” Regardless of the doctrinal theology and sophistry that attempts to deny the clear and plain import of the passage—this Scripture still affirms that “baptism saves.”

    35. Baptism Saves Us - 1 Peter 3:20-21 – Negatively & Positively Attention is next directed to the nature of baptism and it is viewed both negatively and positively. On the one hand Peter explains what it is not, i.e. simply “the putting away of the filth of the flesh,” but on the other hand, it is “the answer of a good conscience toward God.” The reader will easily note that this “saving” process is connected with “the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” The phrase “filth of the flesh” refers to the dirt of the body according to some (cf. Arndt and Gingrich, 745). Other commentators argue that “the filth of the flesh” simply means that baptism in water is not simply a ceremonial cleansing of the body, but is connected with the cleansing of the heart. It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions. Attention is next directed to the nature of baptism and it is viewed both negatively and positively. On the one hand Peter explains what it is not, i.e. simply “the putting away of the filth of the flesh,” but on the other hand, it is “the answer of a good conscience toward God.” The reader will easily note that this “saving” process is connected with “the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” The phrase “filth of the flesh” refers to the dirt of the body according to some (cf. Arndt and Gingrich, 745). Other commentators argue that “the filth of the flesh” simply means that baptism in water is not simply a ceremonial cleansing of the body, but is connected with the cleansing of the heart. It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions.

    36. an “appeal” to God for a good conscience – Defined – Thayer It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions. Grammatically, we have an objective genitive and Peter is teaching that the individual participates in this act of faith in order to render his conscience clear in relation to the reception of the forgiveness of his sins and cleansing of his soul. It is also important to note that this “answer,” “appeal,” “request” etc. for a “good conscience” indicates one does not already possess such, but desires for such to be the case. Progressing further it is helpful to acknowledge that this “appeal” is not toward men, but “toward God.” Many will attempt to argue that water baptism is an “outward manifestation of inward grace,” but such teaching contradicts the word of God. This passage clearly, unequivocally and undeniably to the unprejudiced mind teaches and asserts that water baptism saves us by placing us into a relationship in which we derive the benefits of the “death” and “resurrection of Jesus Christ” (Rom. 6:3; I Peter 3:21). Peter does not teach that baptism alone saves us, but he does teach that one cannot be saved without a willingness to obey God in baptism. This passage supports my proposition: “The Scriptures teach that water baptism is necessary in order for the alien sinner to receive the forgiveness of his past sins.” It is very IMPORTANT to note the next phrase in that it is Peter’s affirmation of what baptism is: “an answer of a good conscience toward God.” This is a death blow to those who argue against the necessity of baptism, for this portion of the text affirms that in water baptism one is seeking, inquiring, asking for a clean conscience. If one is saved by faith alone, without and before water baptism then this verse makes no sense. The term “answer” (KJV) is defined by Thayer “as the terms of the inquiry and demand, a question.” This term would include and require an earnest seeking, i.e. a craving and intense desire for a thing. Arndt and Gingrich would define the term as a “request, appeal…an appeal to God for a clear conscience…I Peter 3:21” (AG, 285). To argue from this context that Peter assumes an inward cleansing prior to the act of baptism is not only unwarranted, but it is a perversion of God’s word due to theological error and preconceived notions. Grammatically, we have an objective genitive and Peter is teaching that the individual participates in this act of faith in order to render his conscience clear in relation to the reception of the forgiveness of his sins and cleansing of his soul. It is also important to note that this “answer,” “appeal,” “request” etc. for a “good conscience” indicates one does not already possess such, but desires for such to be the case. Progressing further it is helpful to acknowledge that this “appeal” is not toward men, but “toward God.” Many will attempt to argue that water baptism is an “outward manifestation of inward grace,” but such teaching contradicts the word of God. This passage clearly, unequivocally and undeniably to the unprejudiced mind teaches and asserts that water baptism saves us by placing us into a relationship in which we derive the benefits of the “death” and “resurrection of Jesus Christ” (Rom. 6:3; I Peter 3:21). Peter does not teach that baptism alone saves us, but he does teach that one cannot be saved without a willingness to obey God in baptism. This passage supports my proposition: “The Scriptures teach that water baptism is necessary in order for the alien sinner to receive the forgiveness of his past sins.”

    37. an “appeal” to God for a good conscience – Baptism is an appeal

    38. Acts 2:38 – FOR – EIS 1 – Strongs & Thayer

    39. Acts 2:38 – FOR – EIS 2 – Quibbles – Mat 3:11 Acts 19:4 (NKJV) Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus." Acts 19:4 (NKJV) Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus."

    40. Acts 2:38 – FOR – EIS 3 – Quibbles – Mat 12:41

    41. Acts 2:38 – FOR – EIS 4 – Mat 26:28

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