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PROPERTY E SLIDES

PROPERTY E SLIDES. 2-21-13. Chapter 3: Where There’s a Will … and Where There Isn’t: Property Transfer at Death. Intestate Succession Generally Working with Specific State Statutes Wills Generally Will Formalities Substantial Compliance State of Mind Requirements.

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PROPERTY E SLIDES

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  1. PROPERTY E SLIDES 2-21-13

  2. Chapter 3: Where There’s a Will … and Where There Isn’t: Property Transfer at Death • Intestate Succession • Generally • Working with Specific State Statutes • Wills • Generally • Will Formalities • Substantial Compliance • State of Mind Requirements

  3. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Note that B & C get identical shares from D in all states. D X A C B

  4. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Florida: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  5. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Florida §732.102.  Spouse's share of intestate estate. The intestate share of the surviving spouse is: (3)  If there are surviving descendants, one or more of whom are not lineal descendants of the surviving spouse, one-half of the intestate estate. Resulting Disposition?

  6. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Florida §732.102.  Spouse's share of intestate estate. The intestate share of the surviving spouse is: (3)  If there are surviving descendants, one or more of whom are not lineal descendants of the surviving spouse, one-half of the intestate estate. Disposition: A= 50% B = 25% C = 25% • Note under 732.102(2), if both B & C are A’s children, A gets 1st $60K + 50%

  7. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Vermont: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  8. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Vermont: § 311. Share of surviving spouse. … (2) In the event there shall survive the decedent one or more descendants of the decedent who are not descendants of the surviving spouse …, the surviving spouse shall receive one-half of the intestate estate. Resulting Disposition?

  9. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Vermont: § 311. Share of surviving spouse. … (2) In the event there shall survive the decedent one or more descendants of the decedent who are not descendants of the surviving spouse …, the surviving spouse shall receive one-half of the intestate estate. Disposition: A= 50% B = 25% C = 25% • Note under § 311 (1), if both B & C are A’s children, A gets entire estate (subsection 1 different than FL)

  10. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Community Property: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  11. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §45. COMMUNITY ESTATE. • Note that on death of one spouse, half of the Community Property automatically becomes that of the surviving spouse • The “Community Estate” is the other half (the part that “belonged” to the deceased spouse)

  12. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §45. COMMUNITY ESTATE. (b) On the intestate death of one of the spouses to a marriage, if a child or other descendant of the deceased spouse survives the deceased spouse and the child or descendant is not a child or descendant of the surviving spouse, one-half of the community estate is retained by the surviving spouse and the other one-half passes to the children or descendants of the deceased spouse. Resulting Disposition?

  13. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §45. COMMUNITY ESTATE. (b) On the intestate death of one of the spouses to a marriage, if a child or other descendant of the deceased spouse survives the deceased spouse and the child or descendant is not a child or descendant of the surviving spouse, one-half of the community estate is retained by the surviving spouse and the other one-half passes to the children or descendants of the deceased spouse. Disposition: A= 50% B = 25% C = 25% • Note under §45(a), if both B & C are A’s children, A gets entire Community Estate

  14. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Non-Community Property: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  15. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §38(b)(1). • Draws Distinction between “personal estate” and “land” • For this provision, no difference where children are not from surviving spouse

  16. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §38(b)(1). (Personal Estate) • If the deceased have a child or children, or their descendants, the surviving husband or wife shall take one-third of the personal estate, and the balance of such personal estate shall go to the child or children of the deceased and their descendants. Resulting Disposition?

  17. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §38(b)(1). (Personal Estate) • If the deceased have a child or children, or their descendants, the surviving husband or wife shall take one-third of the personal estate, and the balance of such personal estate shall go to the child or children of the deceased and their descendants. Disposition: A= 1/3 B = 1/3 C = 1/3

  18. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §38(b)(1). (Real Estate) • The surviving husband or wife shall also be entitled to an estate for life, in one-third of the land of the intestate, with remainder to the child or children of the intestate and their descendants. Means? Resulting Disposition?

  19. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Texas Probate Code §38(b)(1). (Real Estate) • The surviving husband or wife shall also be entitled to an estate for life, in one-third of the land of the intestate, with remainder to the child or children of the intestate and their descendants. Disposition: A= Life Estate in 1/3 B + C Split remainder in that 1/3, plus each get 1/3 of land outright

  20. DQ46: D is survived by spouse (Alex), and two children, one of whom (Bob) is also Alex’s child, and one of whom (Cassie) is a child from the decedent’s prior marriage. Recap: • FL: A= 50% B = 25% C = 25% • VT: A= 50% B = 25% C = 25% • TX (Community): A= 50% B = 25% C = 25% • TX (Non-Community) • Personal Estate: A= 1/3 B = 1/3 C = 1/3 • Real Estate: A = Life Estate in 1/3 (B + C split rest) • All Three: Some Difference if Children All Both D’s + Surviving Spouse’s

  21. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. E PA MA H2 D F

  22. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. Florida: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  23. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. Florida §732.105.  Half blood. When property descends to the collateral kindred of the intestate and part of the collateral kindred are of the whole blood to the intestate and the other part of the half blood, those of the half blood shall inherit only half as much as those of the whole blood; but if all are of the half blood they shall have whole parts. Resulting Disposition?

  24. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. Florida §732.105. Half blood. When property descends to the collateral kindred of the intestate and part of the collateral kindred are of the whole blood to the intestate and the other part of the half blood, those of the half blood shall inherit only half as much as those of the whole blood; but if all are of the half blood they shall have whole parts. Disposition: E = 2/3 F = 1/3 • Note TX §41(b) = similar language/same result

  25. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. Vermont: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  26. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. Vermont: § 331. …[K]indred of half-blood. Kindred of the half-blood shall inherit the same share they would inherit if they were of the whole blood. Resulting Disposition?

  27. DQ47: D is survived by: Eloise, child of D’s mother and father; and Frank, child of D’s mother and her 2d husband. Vermont: § 331. …[K]indred of half-blood. Kindred of the half-blood shall inherit the same share they would inherit if they were of the whole blood. Disposition: E= 50% F = 50%

  28. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace D A B E F G

  29. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Florida: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  30. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Florida: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  31. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Florida §732.104.  Inheritance per stirpes. Descent shall be per stirpes, whether to lineal descendants or to collateral heirs. Means? Resulting Disposition?

  32. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace D A B E F G

  33. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Florida §732.104. Inheritance per stirpes. Descent shall be per stirpes, whether to lineal descendants or to collateral heirs. Disposition: • Split into one share for each dceased child. • A’s 50% goes to E • B’s 50% gets split by F & G (so 25% each)

  34. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Texas: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  35. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Texas ProbateCode §43:Determination of Per Capita & Per Stirpes Distribution • When the intestate's children, descendants, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, or any other relatives of the deceased standing in the first or same degree alone come into the distribution upon intestacy, they shall take per capita, namely: by persons; • and, when a part of them being dead and a part living, the descendants of those dead shall have right to distribution upon intestacy, such descendants shall inherit only such portion of said property as the parent through whom they inherit would be entitled to if alive. Means?

  36. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Texas ProbateCode §43:Determination of Per Capita & Per Stirpes Distribution • When the intestate's children, descendants, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, or any other relatives of the deceased standing in the first or same degree alone come into the distribution upon intestacy, they shall take per capita, namely: by persons; • and, when a part of them being dead and a part living, the descendants of those dead shall have right to distribution upon intestacy, such descendants shall inherit only such portion of said property as the parent through whom they inherit would be entitled to if alive. Means? Resulting Disposition?

  37. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace D A B E F G

  38. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Texas ProbateCode §43:Determination of Per Capita & Per Stirpes Distribution • When the intestate's children, descendants, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, or any other relatives of the deceased standing in the first or same degree alone come into the distribution upon intestacy, they shall take per capita, namely: by persons… Disposition: E & F & G all of same degree, so all take equally

  39. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Vermont: Relevant Statutory Provisions?

  40. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Vermont: §314(b)(2) … to the decedent's siblings and the descendants of any deceased siblings by right of representation; §314(c)[which means] the property shall be divided into as many equal shares as there are children or siblings of the decedent, as the case may be, who either survive the decedent or who predecease the decedent leaving surviving descendants. Means?

  41. DQ48: D had 2 children, Albert & Beatrice. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & Grace Vermont: §314(b)(2) … to the decedent's siblings and the descendants of any deceased siblings by right of representation; §314(c)[which means] the property shall be divided into as many equal shares as there are children or siblings of the decedent, as the case may be, who either survive the decedent or who predecease the decedent leaving surviving descendants. Meaning (& Disposition) Same as Florida

  42. DQ49: D had 3 children, Albert,Beatrice, Claudine. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & GraceC alive with living child Hannah D A C B E H F G

  43. DQ49: D had 3 children, Albert,Beatrice, Claudine. At time of D’s deathA dead, survived by one child, ErnestB dead, survived by 2 children, Frank & GraceC alive with living child Hannah • All Three Divide into Three Branches • C gets own 1/3 share • E gets A’s 1/3 share • F & G split B’s 1/3 share = 1/6 each • Different in pure per capita state • I’ll write up for you

  44. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born

  45. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born Florida: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  46. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born Florida §732.106.  Afterborn heirs. Heirs of the decedent conceived before his or her death, but born thereafter, inherit intestate property as if they had been born in the decedent's lifetime. Resulting Disposition?

  47. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born Florida §732.106.  Afterborn heirs. Heirs of the decedent conceived before his or her death, but born thereafter, inherit intestate property as if they had been born in the decedent's lifetime. Disposition: D’s Posthumous Nephew Takes a Share

  48. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born Texas: Relevant Statutory Provision?

  49. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born Texas Probate Code §41(a) Persons Not in Being. No right of inheritance shall accrue to any persons other than to children or lineal descendants of the intestate, unless they are in being and capable in law to take as heirs at the time of the death of the intestate. Resulting Disposition?

  50. DQ51: D’s Brother Dies Leaving Pregnant WifeD Subsequently Dies 10 Days Later Brother’s Posthumous Son Born Texas Probate Code §41(a) Persons Not in Being.No right of inheritance shall accrue to any persons other than to children or lineal descendants of the intestate, unless they are in being and capable in law to take as heirs at the time of the death of the intestate. Disposition: D’s Posthumous Nephew Gets Nothing b/c Not D’s Lineal Descendant

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