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Québec/Ontario A Fresh Look (or: Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear) présentation by Jean-François Lisée CERIUM.ca at the Chair of Quebec studies, Glendon College, February 2005. JL-001. Question # 1 Is Québec closing the gap ?. JL-002. A decade of growth. JL-004.
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Québec/OntarioA Fresh Look(or: Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear)présentation by Jean-François LiséeCERIUM.caat the Chair of Quebec studies, Glendon College, February 2005 JL-001
Question # 1 Is Québec closing the gap ? JL-002
A decade of growth JL-004
A decade of growth JL-004
Déchiffrer le modèle québécois • A significant leap: In the OECD, only Ireland did better • In North-America Québec is historically poorerBut is closing the gap JL-002
A full cycle Québec/Ontario Growth (1989-2000) Prosperity in principle or per person? JL-003
Will the trend hold ?Québec/Ontario (2004-2005) (ConfB. estimates) JL-003
Closing the wealth gap Québec/United States 1992-2004 This is an average JL-004
Revenue concentration at the top US 1% - 1973-2003 So, one has to beware of averages JL-004
At the low end of the ladder • Family poverty rate, 1997 18% USA 12% European Union 10% Canada 9% Québec 1997, PPA JL-005
Middle class Median disposable work income, 1997 Per cap, PPP, $US de 1995 Canada 20 300 $ Québec 20 500 $ Ontario 21 600 $ USA 21 700 $ Source: Pierre Fortin, UQAM JL-005
To sum up… • Québec’s wealth is growing rapidly. • The 25% of Quebeckers at the bottom of the revenue scale have a higher standard of living than their counterparts in Canada and the US. • The standard of living of the Quebec middle class is close to that of Ontario and the US (-5%) and higher than that of Canada. • The very rich are richer in Ontario and much, much richer in the US. JL-005
Question # 2 Are immigrants afraid of Québec ? JL-002
Déchiffrer le modèle québécois • So… A significant ability to attract international immigrants. A steadily growing retention rate (now 83% vs 86% in ROC) or these immigrants Against a negative (but improving) interprovincial anglophone migratory balance On an anglophone continent, not a bad performance. JL-002
Question # 3 The bureaucrat- heavy-province ? JL-002
Question # 4 Québec’s fiscal hell JL-002
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario 1 400 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 Pharmacare 1 686 -471 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 Pharmacare 1 686 -471 Student grants 177 -648 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 Pharmacare 1 686 -471 Student grants 177 -648 Private schools grants 307 -955 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 Pharmacare 1 686 -471 Student grants 177 -648 Private schools grants 307 -955 Local developement budgets 219 -1 174 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 Pharmacare 1 686 -471 Student grants 177 -648 Private schools grants 307 -955 Local developement budgets 219 -1 174 Culture (supplementary effort) 155 -1 329 JL-005
« The fiscal hell » Québec vs Ontario Québec expenses and services not offered by Ontario, 2001-2002 (partial list) Sum (in millions) Use of the supplementary fiscal revenues (balance) Supplementary fiscal revenues 2 800 5$ (now 7$) a day daycare 1 020 1 780 Supplementary child benefit 565 1 215 Pharmacare 1 686 -471 Student grants 177 -648 Private schools grants 307 -955 Local developement budgets 219 -1 174 Culture (supplementary effort) 155 -1 329 Total 4 129 JL-005
To sum up… For every tax dollar, Quebeckers have more services than Ontarians. Furthermore, Torontonians pay their electricity at rates 64% higher than Quebeckers. JL-002