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Honor 3-4

Honor 3-4. Refresher Training Updated 4-1-12. Focus Point. Review topics covered in previous honor lessons Outline the expectations of honor living as a junior Honor and Discipline Review a series of case studies to challenge the thought process of members of the 3rd class.

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Honor 3-4

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  1. Honor 3-4 Refresher Training Updated 4-1-12

  2. Focus Point • Review topics covered in previous honor lessons • Outline the expectations of honor living as a junior • Honor and Discipline • Review a series of case studies to challenge the thought process of members of the 3rd class.

  3. How does FERPA affect the Honor System? Who investigates an accusation of a violation of the Honor Code? How long does an investigation team have to complete their investigations? Review

  4. Definition review • What is quibbling? • Quibbling is the use of ambiguous or vague language to evade a point at issue. • Quibbling will be considered and treated as a false official statement

  5. Discussion • What are some potential honor issues that you can come across while one weekend duty?

  6. Discussion cont. • What are some other potential honor issues that can come up as a junior? • As a division inspector? • During accountability? • Is it ok to “cover” for your friend who is going AWOL if you are doing 2300 all ins?

  7. Role of Honor in Guard Duty: Be vigilant for potential honor issues Do not make “Grudge Pulls” Remember to ask PROPER questions when questioning cadets about possible violations of regulations Honor as an Upper-Class Cadet

  8. Honor and Discipline • What is the difference from honor and discipline?

  9. Honor and Discipline • Example: You spot a cadet doing something wrong (such as sneaking alcohol in the Battalion) You go and ask the cadet, “Do you have alcohol in your room?’’ The cadet replies, “No I don’t” What do you do?

  10. Honor and Discipline • You follow the proper procedure and you fill out an PR. You know they did it, there is no need to trap someone into an honor violation. If they lie on the ERW then you have grounds to follow up with an accusation.

  11. Honor and Disipline cont. • If you see a cadet’s wallet on his desk and observe that the cadet has a fake ID, but the cadet says he has never used it, is this an honor violation?

  12. Honor and Disipline cont. • No, that is not an honor violation. • It is only an honor violation if the cadet actually uses the fake ID. • It is a discipline issue though. There is a pull in the blue book for possessing a fake ID.

  13. Case Study • Several cadets went out drinking on a Saturday night after a football game where the Corps had been given an overnight. Cadet X was not physically proficient and therefore not eligible to take the overnight. Around 1230 Cadet Y says he is going to head back to school for all-ins, and asks if anyone wants to come with him. Cadet Y had been drinking for the majority of the night, but felt comfortable driving. Cadet X knew that he was supposed to be back for 0100 all-ins, but did not want to go back with a driver who had been drinking. The group of cadets went to a different bar and Cadet Y went back to school. After all-ins had been done, Cadet Y came back out and met the group at the other bar. At about 0300, Cadet Y drove the whole group of cadets back to school, including Cadet X. On Monday, Cadet X received a white slip for being AWOL.

  14. Case Study • In the ERW, Cadet X wrote that he would have come back for all-ins, but decided it was against his better judgment to ride with a drunk driver. The company commander pulled him for the honor violation of lying because he did not believe that Cadet X ever had an intention of coming back and was using the drunk driver line as a way of trying to lessen his punishment for being AWOL. • Did Cadet X commit an honor violation?

  15. Was Cadet X’s statement quibbling? The court determined that yes, it is quibbling. The drunk driver was not Cadet X’s only option for getting back to campus. Although it is true that he did not want to drive with the drunk driver at that point, the heart of the issue is why Cadet X did not come back for all-ins. Cadet X implied having the intention of coming back, but that was not true because there was no attempt to make it back to campus. Cadet X did not call a cab or anyone else for a ride, nor was there any plan for making it back to campus. Cadet X did not miss all-ins because of the drunk driver, rather Cadet X missed all-ins because Cadet X did not have the intention of coming back to campus and decided to stay out. Case Study

  16. A reminder Ignorance is Not a Defense or an excuse! Ignorance of the provisions of the honor code shall NOT be accepted as a defense by the honor court.

  17. Questions?

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