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TGac March 2010 Agenda. Authors:. Date: 2010-03-15. Meeting Protocol. Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot. Slide 2. Attendance. https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/attendance/index Register Indicate attendance
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TGac March 2010 Agenda Authors: Date: 2010-03-15 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 2 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Attendance https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/attendance/index Register Indicate attendance See document 11-09-0517r0 for more details Slide 3 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – adrian.p.stephens@intel.com Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 4 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Patent Policy • Following 5 slides Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual 6.3.5 and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. Instructions for the WG Chair (Optional to be shown) Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform • All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: • “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents • “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents orpatent claims • “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) • The above does not apply if the patentclaim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group • Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 • Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged • No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html Patent Related Links If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Slide #2 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Call for Potentially Essential Patents Slide #3 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. • --------------------------------------------------------------- • See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda Items for the Week • Call for secretary • Review from January 2010 • Approve minutes from January 2010 • Ad Hoc group meetings and straw polls • Updating task group documents as needed • Channel models • Functional Requirements and Evaluation methodology • Selection Procedure • Specification Framework • Technical Submissions Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
TGac Schedule in a Glance Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Monday March 15th, 09:00 – 11:00 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Straw Polls Monday March 15th, 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting Call for secretary Patent policy, etc. Set agenda Call for submissions Review from January Approve minutes from January Presentations TG motions, if any Tuesday March 16th, 08:00 – 10:00 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations and Straw Polls Tuesday March 16th, 10:30 – 12:30 TG Meeting Ad Hocs reports and motions Wednesday March 17th, 08:00 – 10:00 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations and Straw Polls Thursday March 18th , 10:30 – 12:30 TG Meeting Call for secretary Ad Hoc group reports and straw polls TG Motions Presentations Goals for March Conference calls Tentative TGac Agenda for the Week Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Submissions • PHY • 11-10-316r0, “Preamble minor enhancement”, Brian Hart (Cisco Systems) • 11-10-0070r4, “802.11ac Preamble”, Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • 11-10-0073r2, “Group ID Concept for DL MU-MIMO”, Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • 11-10-0382r0, “Bit-Consideration-for-SIG-fields”, Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • 11-10-362r0, “MU-MIMO STA scheduling strategy and Related PHY signaling”, Daewon Lee (LG Electronics) • 11-10-370r0, “80MHz Tone Allocation”, Marvell Semiconductor,. Inc • 11-10-0359r0, “802.11ac Preamble for VHT Auto-detection”, Il-Gu Lee (ETRI) • 11-10-0363r0, “Preamble Design Aspects for 11ac”, Yujin Noh (LG Electronics) • MAC • 11-10-0064r3, “VHT Frame Padding”, Yong Liu (Marvell) • 11-10-0351r0, “VHT frame padding summary”, Yong Liu (Marvell) • 11-10-0358r0, “802.11ac MAC Frame Length Indication”, Jaewoo Park (ETRI) • Coexistence • 11-10-384r0, “Revisions of Home Network Simulation Scenario with OBSS”, Yusuke Asai (NTT) • 11-10-378r0, “160 MHz PHY Transmission”, Youhan Kim (Atheros) • 11-10-385r0, “80MHz and 160MHz channel access modes”, L. Cariou (Orange Labs) • MU-MIMO • 11-09/1234r1, “Interference Cancellation for Downlink MU-MIMO”, , Sameer Vermani (Qualcomm) • 11-10/0334r0 , “PHY Abstraction for MU-MIMO in Tgac”, Riichi Kudo (NTT) • 11-10/0332r0, “CSI Report for Explicit Feedback Beamforming in Downlink MU-MIMO”, Koichi Ishihara (NTT). • 11-10-0324r0, “DL MU MIMO Error Handling and Simulation”, Intel • 11-10-0335r0, “Considerations on MU-MIMO Protection in 11ac”, Jae Seung Lee (ETRI) • TG • 11-10-0317r1, “DL-OFDMA for Mixed Clients”, Brian Hart (Cisco Systems) • 11-10-0333r0, “The need and complexity of in-home entertainment scenario with OBSS”, Yusuke ASAI (NTT) • 11-09-0308r11, “TGac Channel Model Addendum Documents”, Greg Briet, (Qualcomm) Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda for Monday, March 15th, 09:00 – 11:00 • Ad Hoc Group Meetings • MU-MIMO (Grand Sierra D) • Coexistence (Bonaire 1) Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda for Monday, March 15th, 16:00 – 18:00 (Caribbean 1/2) • TG Meeting • Call for secretary • Patent policy, etc. • Set agenda • Call for submissions • Review from January • Approve minutes from January • TG documents and presentations • TG motions, if any Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Review from January • Motion passed to update the Specification Framework document to include a section on the MAC • Technical presentations • Task Group Approved Documents • 11-09-0308r10, TGac Channel Addendum Document • 11-09-0059r5, 802.11ac Proposed Selection Procedure • 11-09-0451r8, TGac Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology • 11-09-0992r3, Proposed Specification Framework for TGac Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
January TG Minutes • Move to approve January 2010 TGac minutes as contained in 11-10-0315r0 • Move: Adrian Stephens (Intel) • Second: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • Approved by unanimous consent Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
January Ad Hoc Minutes • Move to approve Ad Hoc groups minutes • MAC: 11-10-0138r0 (January Meeting) and11-10-0198 r1 (Telecons) • MU-MIMO:11-10-0094r1 • PHY: 11-10-0211r1 • Coexistence: 11-10-0089r3 • Move: Allan Zhu (Samsung) • Second: Sameer Vermani (Qualcomm) • Approved by Unanimous consent Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Presentations for Monday PM2 • 11-10-335r0, “Considerations on MU-MIMO Protection in 11ac”, Jae Seung Lee (ETRI) • 11-10-333r0, “The need and complexity of in-home entertainment scenario with OBSS”, Yusuke ASAI (NTT) • 11-09-308r11, “TGac Channel Models Addnedum”, Greg Breit (Qualcomm) Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda for Tuesday, March 16th, 08:00 – 10:00 • Ad Hoc Group Meetings • PHY (Caribbean 1/2) • MAC (Bonaire 1) Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda for Tuesday, March 16th, 10:30 – 12:30 (Caribbean 1/2) • TG Meeting • Ad Hoc reports and Motions • MU-MIMO Motions • PHY Motions • Presentations • 11-10-317r1, “DL-OFDMA for Mixed Clients”, Brian Hart (Cisco Systems) Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #1 Move to support the Interference Cancellation concept described in this document [09/1234r1] by inclusion of the following section and text in the Tgac spec framework document: “ 4.1 Resolvable LTFs for DL MU-MIMO In a DL MU-MIMO transmission, LTFs are considered “resolvable” when the AP transmits enough LTFs for an STA to estimate the channel to all spatial streams of every recipient STA. In order to enable interference cancellation at an STA during a DL MU-MIMO transmission, an AP may transmit the preamble using resolvable LTFs.” Move: Greg Breit (Qualcomm) Second: Brian Hart (Cisco) Yes: 52 No: 1 Abstain: 6 Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #2 • Move to support PHY abstraction methods as described in 11-10-334r0 and update FR&EM document 11-09-451r8 accordingly. • Move: Yasuchi Takatori (NTT) • Second: Minho Cheong (ETRI) • Yes: No: Abstain: • Motion to table passed Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #3 • Move to support adding a basic guideline on the numerology for 11ac device described as in Section I of 11-10/0070r4, excluding slide 9 (max Number of users for MU remains TBD), to the spec framework document, 11-09-0992? • Move: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • Second: Brian Hart (Cisco) • Yes: 65 No:0 Abstain:1 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #4 • Move to support adding the 11ac preamble structure with two SIGNAL fields (VHT-SIGA located before VHT-STF and VHT-SIGB located after VHT-LTFs) as in Section III (Slide 22) of 11-10/0070r4 to the spec framework document, 11-09-0992? • Move: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • Second: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) • Yes: 65 No: 0 Abstain: 2 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #5 • Do you support to have BPSK on the 1st VHT-SIGA symbol and TBD onthe 2ndVHT-SIGA symbol for VHT auto-detection, and to edit the spec framework document, 11-09-0992, accordingly? • Move: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) • Second: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) • Yes: No: Abstain: Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion to Amend • Motion to Amend: • Do you support to have BPSK on the 1st VHT-SIGA symbol and TBD onsubsequent VHT-SIGA symbol(s) for VHT auto-detection, and to edit the spec framework document, 11-09-0992, accordingly? • Move: Minho Cheong (ETRI) • Second: Andre • Yes: 66 No:0 Abstain:1 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Amended Motion (Motion #5) • Do you support to have BPSK on the 1st VHT-SIGA symbol and TBD on subsequent VHT-SIGA symbol(s) for VHT auto-detection, and to edit the spec framework document, 11-09-0992, accordingly? • Yes: 64 No: 0 Abstain: 1 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Straw Poll #1 • Do you agree that BSSs with non-AP STAs that have a mixture of PHY capabilities leads to inefficient use of the BSS resources, and reducing this inefficiency is a topic that merits further investigation? • Yes: 57 No: 2 Abstain: 29 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda for Wednesday, March 17th, 08:00 – 10:00 • Ad Hoc Group Meetings • PHY (Caribbean 1/2) • Coexistence (Bonaire 1) • Presentations • Straw Polls Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Agenda for Thursday, March 18th, 10:30 – 12:30 (Caribbean 1/2) • Call for secretary • Ad Hoc group reports and straw polls • MAC Ad Hoc report 11-10-0199r2 • PHY Ad Hoc report 11-10-0211r7 • MU-MIMO Ad Hoc report 11-10-0328r2 • Coexistence Ad Hoc report 11-10-0340r5 • TG Motions • PHY Ad Hoc Motions • Coexistence Ad Hoc Motions • Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology Motion (11-09-451rx) • Channel Models Addendum Motion (11-09-0308r12) • Specification Framework Motion (11-09-0992rx) • Presentations • Goals for May • Conference calls Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #6- PHY Ad Hoc • Move to support including TBD bits for Bandwidth and STBC in VHT-SIGA and including MCS field in VHT-SIGB, and editing the spec framework document, 11-09-0992, accordingly • Move: Joonsuk Kim • Second: Eldad • Yes: 36 No: 0 Abstain: 23 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #7- PHY Ad Hoc • Move to support allowing only equal modulation and coding scheme across all streams per user and stating this in the spec framework document, 11-09-0992 • Move: Eldad • Second: Joonsuk • Yes: 37 No: 13 Abstain: 12 • Motion Failed Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #8: Coexistence Ad Hoc • Move to support in-home entertainment scenario: • changing Table 5 in 11-09/0451r11 with the changes described in slide 3 of 11-10/0384r3 • changing Table 7 in 11-09/0451r11 with the changes described in slide 4 of 11-10/0384r3 • deleting Figure 2 and case 2 in 11-09/0451r11 • Move: Eldad • Second: Yasuchi Takatori • Yes: 69 No: 0 Abstain:8 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #9 • Move to approve document 11-09-0451r12 as the current revision of the Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology document. • Move: Minho • Second: Yasushi • Yes: 67 No: 0 Abstain: 4 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #10 • Move to approve document 11-09-0381r12 as the current revision of the Channel Models Addendum document. • Move: Greg Breit (Qualcomm) • Second: Eldad • Yes: 65 No: 0 Abstain: 1 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #11 • Move to approve document 11-09-0992r8 as the current revision of the Specification Framework document. • Move: Robert • Second: Eldad • Yes: 70 No: 0 Abstain: 1 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #12 • Move to support allowing only the same modulation and the same coding rate and coding type across all streams for single user case and stating this in the spec framework document, 11-09-0992 • Move: Vinko • Second: Eldad • Yes: 57 No: 15 Abstain: 3 • Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Motion #13 • Move to approve document 11-09-0992r9 as the current revision of the Specification Framework document. • Move: robert • Second: Eldad • Yes: 59 No: 4 Abstain: 2 Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung
Conference call times • Not overlap with TGad • April 29, 10:00-12:00 EDT • PHY telecon schedule • April 8, 11:00 – 12:00 EDT • MAC telecon schedule • April 8, 10:00 – 11:00 EDT • Coexistence telecon schedule • April 22, 20:00 – 21:00 EDT • MU-MIMO telecon schedule • Thu April 15, 10:00-11:00 EDT • Thu April 29, 20:00-21:00 EDT Osama Aboul-Magd, Samsung