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Problem WG

Problem WG. IETF58 Minneapolis. Agenda. Problem Issues Document discussion Review of changes to Issues doc Open Issues? Discussion of Plans for second LC Process document discussion Discussion of decision to list alternative discussed as opposed to drive to consensus

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Problem WG

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  1. Problem WG IETF58 Minneapolis

  2. Agenda • Problem Issues Document discussion • Review of changes to Issues doc • Open Issues? • Discussion of Plans for second LC • Process document discussion • Discussion of decision to list alternative discussed as opposed to drive to consensus • Discussion of plans for LC • Future of the group

  3. Changes to Issues Doc • Major Changes between Versions 04 and 05 • Added a bullet in Section 2.2 indicating lack of documentation of potential protocol interactions. • Two bullet points have been merged in Section 2.2 relating to the need for metrics and 'post mortem' reviews to improve processes. • In Section 2.3 Pointed out the probable connection between inadequate external review and late detection of interactions.

  4. Change to Issue Doc • The last paragraphs of Section 2.6.4 and Section 2.6.5 have been toned down. • The lack of a process to nominate a stand-in for a temporarily incapacitated AD has been noted in Section 2.6.2. • Various spelling and grammatical errors have been fixed and some phraseology cleaned up.

  5. Problem Issue Document • Open Issues? • Structure of document • Choice of language in document • Ordering of issues in the document • Acceptable mix of problems • Acceptable list of root Causes • Discussion of Plans for second LC • Only for issues brought up in 1st LC

  6. Process Document • Review of changes made in draft-ietf-problem-process-03 • The draft now lists the various suggestions that have been floated as ways forward for the structural changes problems, documents the inability of the community to achieve consensus around any of these proposals and suggests that the problem is remitted to the control of the IESG.

  7. Process Document • Discussion of decision to list alternative discussed as opposed to drive to consensus • Discussion of plans for LC

  8. future of the group • we plan to ask the group be closed as soon as the both documents are published.

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