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AWANA Leadership Conference 2018 Kids Connecting Scripture to Science: The Global Flood of Genesis Part 1 - Noah’s Ark, Original and Kentucky Style! Bob Cooperman, President and Exec. Director Institute for Scientific and Biblical Research Lancaster, PA September 29, 2018.
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AWANA Leadership Conference 2018 Kids Connecting Scripture to Science: The Global Flood of Genesis Part 1 - Noah’s Ark, Original and Kentucky Style! Bob Cooperman, President and Exec. Director Institute for Scientific and Biblical Research Lancaster, PA September 29, 2018
Institute for Scientific and Biblical Research A Christian ministry focused on the truth, accuracy and relevance of the Biblical accounts of Creation and the Global Flood and how modern science confirms the Biblical claims
ISBR Beliefs: • Genesis accounts of Creation and the Global Flood are foundational to the Christian faith • “Young-Earth” viewpoint: • God created the universe, including the Earth and its original “kinds” of life in 6 ordinary days, roughly 6000 years ago • God caused a Global Flood roughly 4500 years ago. • We believe that this is an accurate interpretation of Scripture and an accurate interpretation of the scientific evidence • HOWEVER, this is NOT a salvation issue, rather an issue of the authority of God’s word
ISBR Monthly Creation Science Forums: • Present relevant scientific topics and Biblical implications interspersed with questions and answers • Speakers are available for your Creation event. Please email for details • 501(c)(3) non-profit organization, incorporated in PA in 1994
ISBR Website: • www.isbrministries.org • News articles • Announcements of Forums • Videos of previous • Forums (> 60) • Links to other creationist websites
Who am I and Why am I Here ? • Why Are You Here? “Train up a child in the way he should go,Even when he is old he will not depart from it.” Prov 22:6 (NASB)
will affect what they believe then What you teach them now … An increasing number of twenty-somethings are leaving the church, never to return
January, 2018: The percentage of teens who identify as atheist is double that of the general population (13% vs. 6%) https://www.barna.com/research/atheism-doubles-among-generation-z/
Did you know there is a “Gen Z?” GEN Z were born 1999 to 2015. (Only teens 13 to 18 are included in this study.) GEN Y (MILLENNIALS) were born 1984 to 1998. GEN X were born 1965 to 1983. BOOMERS were born 1946 to 1964. ELDERS were born before 1946. https://www.barna.com/research/atheism-doubles-among-generation-z/
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What does secular science tell us about the world? Universe is 13.7 Billion years old Earth is 4.6 Billion years old Biological evolution began 4 Billion years ago and is a fact Therefore, the biblical creation account, Adam, Eve, Noah, the Flood, etc. cannot be literally true
What is the remedy among many evangelical churches? Compromise Maybe pastors look out over their aging congregations and feel they need to be “relevant” to keep the pews filled?
So what is the Challenge? Give them Biblical truth and how it relates to the real-world questions they will face Answer the questions they have now
Kid’s Questions – Age 5 - 12 www. answersingenesis.org
Categories of Kid’s Questions, Ages 5-12 • God and Creation • Garden of Eden • Flood • Tower of Babel and People Groups • Ice Age • Astronomy • Dinosaurs
Flood Questions • Did Noah have to estimate how much food to gather or did God tell him? (Girl, 10) • How did Noah keep the animals on the ark from eating each other and his family? (Boy, 8) • Did Noah take dinosaurs on the ark? (Girl, 10) • How did Noah get 2 of every sea animal on the ark? (Girl, 10) • Did Noah have to search for all the animals or did they come by themselves? How did they know they had to come to the ark? (Girl, 11) • Why aren't there fossils of humans from Noah's Flood? (Girl, 7) • After the Flood, were there any buildings left? (Girl, 8) • Why did God allow some creatures to go extinct? (Boy, 10) • What happened to the ark once Noah, his family and the animals got off? (Boy, 10) • How did animals make it to America and Australia after the Flood? (Boy, 10) • Were people different before the Flood than they are today? (Girl, 11) • How could Noah's children fill the earth? (Boy, 12) • Where did the water go after the Flood? (Girl 7, Girl 12)
Why this study? Other than the creation account, the Global Flood of Genesis is the most ridiculed event in the Bible and used to deny the truth of the entire book
Was Noah’s Ark even feasible for technology of his day? Problem: we don’t know what the technology of his day was However: … as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in bronze and iron. (Genesis 4:22) Also, we do know about certain ancient technology that indicates capability to innovate We also know about present-day low-tech methods Noah could have employed
How About Ancient Wooden Ships? Tessarakonteres – 300 BC “Largest ship constructed in antiquity, and possibly the largest human-powered vessel ever built, with 4000 oarsmen.” 280 cubits x 38 cubits wide x 48 cubits (up to gunwale) (467 feet long x 63 feet wide x 80 feet high) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessarakonteres
How About Ancient Wooden Ships? Ancient Luxury Liner Syracusia – 240 BC • Designed by Archimedes, built in Sicily • 360 ft long, 80 ft wide • Pine from Italy, cord from Spain, pitch, and hemp from France. • Nailed together with imported copper spikes, showing widespread trade and shipping by then. • 1943 passengers in staterooms, library, hot water pool, garden promenade, restaurant, marble statues, carved ivory • Temple dedicated to Aphrodite • 2000 tons cargo • 200 armed soldiers protecting from pirates https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/13367724-syracusia---titanic-luxury-liner-of-ancient-world
How About Ancient Wooden Ships? Hatshepsut’s Barge – 1500 BC Egyptian Pharaoh Queen Hatshepsut commissioned temple requiring transport of 100-ft tall, 320 ton obelisks
Hatshepsut’s Barge – 1500 BC • 260 ft x 90 ft wooden barge carried them down • river • Made of local wood and an inscription read • “Give ye sycamores from the whole land the • work of building a very great boat, finished.” • Noah’s Flood dated at 2304 BC, 800 years earlier
Some Obvious Questions Why was the Flood needed? Why was the Ark needed? What did God tell Noah? What did God not tell Noah? What did Noah need to think about? What did Noah do?
Why was the Flood needed? Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. The LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them." Gen 6:5-7 (NASB)
Why was the Ark needed? … the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. 1 Pet 3:20(NASB)
What did God tell Noah? Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; you shall make the ark with rooms, and shall cover it inside and out with pitch. This is how you shall make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, its breadth fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits You shall make a window for the ark, and finish it to a cubit from the top; and set the door of the ark in the side of it; you shall make it with lower, second, and third decks Gen 6:14-16 (NASB)
What else did God tell Noah? I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife, and your sons' wives with you. And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. Gen 6:18-20 (NASB)
What else did God tell Noah? • As for you, take for yourself some of all food which is edible, and gather it to yourself; and it shall be for food for you and for them • Gen 6:18-21 (NASB) • You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth. • Gen 7:2-3 (NASB)
What did God not tell Noah? We don’t know … but God either: told Noah things not recorded in Scripture or left some specifics up to him or Both Also, God did not tell Noah to build it alone
What did Noah do? Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did. Gen 6:22 (NASB) On the very same day Noah and Shem and Ham and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark, they and every beast after its kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, all sorts of birds. So they went into the ark to Noah, by twos of all flesh in which was the breath of life. Those that entered, male and female of all flesh, entered as God had commanded him; and the LORD closed it behind him. Gen 7:13-16 (NASB)
What did Noah need to think about? • Materials to use • Shape of Ark • Room arrangement • Window placement • Door placement • Lighting • Ventilation • Food and water • Waste management • Animal kinds • Animal organization • Construction manpower • Workload onboard Also, it was not recorded that Noah knew how long the Flood would last, so he needed to think about quantities of food and water
Materials “Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; you shall make the ark with rooms, and shall cover it inside and out with pitch.” Gen 6:14 (NASB)
What Kind of Wood? • Gopher • NASB • KJV • NKJV • ESV • RSV • ASV • HCSB • Cypress • NLT • NET • NIV
Maybe Teak? USS Missouri
Maybe Teak? • Indian teak found in ancient Babylon (3000B.C.) • Probably best wood for ships because of strength and durability • Teak structures have lasted for thousands of years • Chinese had practice of burying teak in damp soil to make it even harder
Rooms in the Ark? Hebrew for “cells” or “nests” blueletterbible.org
What Kind of Pitch? • What is pitch? • Black, glue-like residue from heating coal or oil • Ark critics say there was no coal or oil before the flood, so there could have been no pitch either • But pitch also comes from distilling or heating wood
Pitch from wood? • Done in Europe for at least 1000 years • Gouge pine tree trunk in herringbone pattern • Collect pine resin in pot at tree base as it runs down the grooves • Then chop down trees, cover in soil or ash
Pitch from wood? • Burn slowly, forming charcoal • Add powdered charcoal to boiling resin to form pitch • Used to cover large ocean-going wooden ships • Noah cut down many trees, may have used this method since God told him to cover the ark with pitch
Non-Biological pitch from earth’s mantle? • Maybe oil came from the earth’s mantle and pitch actually did come from oil • Later contaminated by biological material • Book by Dr. Thomas Gold, Austrian astrophysicist, 1987 From Amazon.com review: “methane gas is produced from carbonate rock and water, but at extreme pressure and temperature conditions methane polymerizes to heavier hydrocarbons”
Pitch and Wood Transcription Error? גֹּפֶר Gopher כָֽפַרְ Kaphar כֹּֽפֶר Kopher So maybe “gopher” was not a type of wood but rather it was “pitched wood” blueletterbible.org
What did God tell Noah about the Physical Construction of the Ark? This is how you shall make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, its breadth fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits You shall make a window for the ark, and finish it to a cubit from the top; and set the door of the ark in the side of it; you shall make it with lower, second, and third decks Gen 6:15-16 (NASB)
Size and Shape Basic Question: Given the size, what shape was necessary to withstand the environment and sustain the occupants for a year? 30 cubits (50 ft) 300 cubits (510 ft) 50 cubits (85 ft)