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Bruce Mayer, PE Licensed Electrical & Mechanical Engineer BMayer@ChabotCollege

Engineering 10. HomeWork Assignment: Engineering Degree Course-Planning. Bruce Mayer, PE Licensed Electrical & Mechanical Engineer BMayer@ChabotCollege.edu. Assignment.

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Bruce Mayer, PE Licensed Electrical & Mechanical Engineer BMayer@ChabotCollege

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  1. Engineering 10 HomeWork Assignment:Engineering DegreeCourse-Planning Bruce Mayer, PE Licensed Electrical & Mechanical EngineerBMayer@ChabotCollege.edu

  2. Assignment • Design for YOURSELF a Course-By-Course, and Term-by-Term Plan to Obtain a BaccalaureateEngineering Degree from a Transfer University • To Include (examples follow) • Your Choice of Engineering Discipline • Year and Semester/Quarter • Institution = Chabot + Transfer-University • Course: Title, Number, Unit Value

  3. Success Story  Robert Moore Earned BSME from UCBerkeley in May2011

  4. Example  BSME from • Goal = Baccalaureate in Mechanical Engineering from UC Davis (UCD) • Assume • Took Lots of Math, Science, and English at Tennyson High School • i.e., I’m Well Prepared for MTH1 & ENGL1A • Parents GENEROUSLY Allow me to Live at Home for While At Chabot • No Living Expenses for First Two Years • Work ALL Summers to pay for UCDavis

  5. BSME  Year1 at Chabot • Notes & Comments on Year-1 • ENGR10 Not Required by UCDavis • General Ed = COMM1, ENGL1A • Unit Load is Quite High in Both Terms • Need Approval From Chabot Counseling to take more than 18 Units

  6. BSME  Year2 at Chabot • Notes & Comments on Year-2 • General Ed = ECON1, ENGL7 • Unit Load is Quite High in Both Terms • Both Terms were Intense, but Acceptance by UCD made it worth all the effort

  7. BSME  Year3 at UCD • Notes & Comments on Year-3 • Expect Much More Intense & Competitive Atmosphere at UCDavis • Quarter-Terms “took some getting used to” • Lower Division Courses PHYS9D & EME50 were not Available at Chabot (happens occassionally) • General Ed = STS120; the Magic & Science Class

  8. BSME  Year4 at UCD • Notes & Comments on Year-4 • HardCore and Cool Engineering-Intensive Year • Major Advantage of a POPULAR Discipline at a LARGE School →WIDE Selection of Potential Electives • Interview for Engineering Position with Several Companies in Winter & Spring Terms

  9. “Fast Track” Summary • Notes & Comments • An Engineering Degree from a World-Class University in Four-Years requires a 100% Commitment to Academics

  10. Potential Issues • Your Plan MUST meet the Transfer-University DEGREE REQUIRMENTS for the Major chosen • Caveat (i.e., Beware) • PreReqs often result in “brush up” Courses that Do Not Ultimately Count toward the Baccalaureate degree • This Happened to the Instructor • Started Math at Algebra II, Not Calculus

  11. Potential Issues cont.1 • Caveat (i.e., Beware) cont. • Some LOWER Division Courses May NOT be offered by Chabot (e.g., EME 50) so Plan on Taking Them at the University • This Happened to the Instructor • Circuit Engineering NOT offered at my Comm College • If you have to WORK Part-Time to support yourself, PACE your Course Offerings to allow for work-time • This Happened to the Instructor • Worked at a SuperMarket All Thru the Higher Ed

  12. Potential Issues cont.2 • Caveat (i.e., Beware) cont • Working-Student Pacing • Assume that Transfer occurs at the FALL Term • Most University Engineering Schools do NOT accept MID-YEAR Transfers • Most Transfer Universities have PROGRESS REQUIREMENTS; assume UP TO • 8 Semesters (4 years) at Chabot • 5-Semesters or 7-Quarters at the University • At UCD the Progress Requirement is 13 units per Quarter

  13. Potential Issues cont.3 • Caveat (i.e., Beware) cont • Beware of PreReQ CHAINS and BottleNecks • Some Courses may Have PreReqs THREE, or More, Levels Deep • A Single Course could be a PreReq to MANY More courses • e.g.; A Chabot transfer student reported that a “GateKeeper” Dynamics course was required for almost ALL upper-division ME Coures at UCSB (offered ONLY Summer & Spring) • VERY CAREFULLY Check all PreReqs

  14. Chabot PreReq “BottleNeck” • MTH-1 (Calculus-1) is a PreReq for These Engineering-Required Courses • MTH-2 • MTH-3 • MTH-4 • MTH-6 • PHYS-4A • PHYS-4B • PHYS-4C • PHYS-5 • ENGR-25 • ENGR-36 • ENGR-43 • ENGR-45

  15. ENGR10 (2) Intro to Engineering (Fall-Only) CHEM1A (5) College Chemistry I (Fall, Spring) MTH1 (5) Calculus I (Fall, Spring) ENGR22 (3) Engineering Graphics (Fall, Spring) ENGR11 (2) Engineering Design (Spring-Only) ENGR25 (3) Computer Methods (Fall, Spring) MTH2 (5) Calculus II (Fall, Spring) PHYS4A (5) General Physics I (Fall, Spring) ENGR36 (3) Engineer Mechanics (Fall-Only) MTH6 (3) Linear Algebra (Fall, Spring) MTH3 (5) MultiVar Calculus (Fall, Spring) PHYS4B (5) General Physics II (Fall, Spring) ENGR43 (4) Electrical Ckts & Devs (Spring-Only) ENGR45 (3) Engineering Matls (Spring-Only) PHYS4C (5) General Physics III (Fall, Spring) MTH4 (3) Differential Eqms (Fall, Spring)

  16. Chabot ENGR Schedule Pattern

  17. Articulation vs Transferability • Articulated courses Transfer DIRECTLY and ONE-to-ONE against Courses REQUIRED for the BS-Engineering Degree • e.g; Chabot ENGR45 counts as UCLA MatSci104 or SFSU ENGR200, etc. • “Transferable” courses apply GENERALLY to the 60 units needed for transfer; they are NON-Required Electives • e.g; Chabot GEOG-1 transfers to UC/CSU but does NOT apply to BS-Engineering Degrees

  18. Beware IGETC • Following IGETC for GE almost always results in Engineering Students Taking TOO MANY GE Courses • IGETC almost always WORKS, but almost always OverDoesGE for Engineers CALL the Xfer University ENGINEERING Operation About GE

  19. Resources ExCel Template on WebPage • Chabot College • Counseling Group • Course Catalog & Schedule • assist.org = student-transfer information system • The BEST Place to Start • University Engineering-School Web Sites • Spend a LOT of time here

  20. Chabot↔UCD Assist

  21. Chabot↔UCD Assist

  22. Case2 – BSME from UCD • Goal = Baccalaureate in Mechanical Engineering from UC Davis (UCD) • Assume • Didn’t Know What I wanted to Do While at James Logan High School • i.e., Not Quite Ready for MATH1 & ENGL1A • Want to Be On My Own at 19 • Get an Apartment with a RoomMate • Must Work 24 hrs/week on Average While at Chabot • Get Loans and work 16 hrs/week While at UCD

  23. BSME – Year1 at Chabot • Notes & Comments • Take ENGR10 to Discover What Engineering is all About – Had some Really Cool Guest Speakers • Start Slowly to get Used to College Routine • “Brush Up” Courses Shown in Green • 18 Units Worth

  24. BSME – Year2 at Chabot • Notes & Comments • Discover that Calculus is Pretty Cool • Sp2 Term is TOUGH while Working 24 hrs/wk • Doing Calculus on the Computer in ENGR25 was Way-Interesting

  25. BSME – Year3 at Chabot • Notes & Comments • Both Terms TOUGH while Working 24 hrs/wk • Hands-On Labs in ENGR43 are Way-Interesting • Field Trips in ENGR45 were Quite Cool

  26. BSME – Year4 at UCD • Notes & Comments • Expect Much More Intense & Competitive Atmosphere • PHYS9D & EME50 Not Currently Offered at Chabot • Spring Qtr was TOUGH while working 16 hrs/wk

  27. BSME – Year5 at UCD • Notes & Comments • Professors are Working on REALLY Cool Research Projects; Attend a few Seminars • e.g., H2 Fuel Cell Motorcycle by Chabot student Rosas • Got to take fun electives such as Mechatronics • 16 Units in Spring are BARELY Manageable While Working 16 hrs/wk

  28. BSME – Year6 at UCDavis • Notes & Comments • Progress-Requirements Allow ONE additional Term for Transfer Students • A few Months Short of 24th Birthday, Finally Earn the BSME • Interview on Campus, Take Job with AeroJetin Sacramento

  29. “Working Track” Summary • Notes & Comments • It was Long (about 5½ years), and Tough (80 hrs/wk) during school-term, But it was Worth it • Designing Composite-Material Pressure Vessels at AeroJet is Interesting & Challenging • Summers in Sacramento aren’t quite as nice as those in Union City

  30. Sacramento vsUnionCity 75 °F Union City 92 °F Sacramento

  31. Engineering 10 Appendix:BS Industrial EngrSan Jose State Bruce Mayer, PE Licensed Electrical & Mechanical EngineerBMayer@ChabotCollege.edu

  32. BSIE – Chabot • Notes & Comments • The Spring Terms are HEAVILY Loaded • SJSU requires PE and American Institutions

  33. BSI(S)E – San Jose State • Notes & Comments • CmpE30 Not currently offered at Chabot • The Dance Class was fun ☺

  34. SJSU ISE FastTrack • Notes & Comments • SJSU Has a Good Industrial & Systems (ISE) Engineering Program • Average 16¾ Units per Semester Term • Take a Position with Lockheed-Martin as an Operations Development Engineer

  35. Chabot↔SJSU Assist

  36. ChabotTRANSFERCenter

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