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Transitioning from Year 11 to Year 12

Transitioning from Year 11 to Year 12. What needs to be considered?. Your child’s pathway(s)/interests. Your child’s goals. Your child’s strengths/weaknesses. Your child’s motivations/aspirations. Why underline child?. Whose future is it? As parents we have to be careful to:

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Transitioning from Year 11 to Year 12

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  1. Transitioning from Year 11 to Year 12

  2. What needs to be considered? Your child’s pathway(s)/interests. Your child’s goals. Your child’s strengths/weaknesses. Your child’s motivations/aspirations

  3. Why underline child? • Whose future is it? • As parents we have to be careful to: • not live our children’s lives for them • not project our own preferences/desires upon our kids • let our children learn from their own experiences • be realistic about our children’s strengths and weaknesses • remember that our motivations may differ from our children

  4. Why the pop psychology? • 1/ Past experience in course selection • Inappropriate subject choice. • Unrealistic expectations. • Underperforming, unhappy students.

  5. Why the pop psychology? • 2/ Educational and psychological research • e.g. Hattie’s results regarding the educational impact of the “overly zealous” parent.

  6. But I want the best for my child Supportive/nurturing home environment. Encouragement rather than nagging. An understanding of your child’s journey in Year 12. A quiet dedicated space for study where possible. The need for realism and honest conversations about pathways, aspirations, motivation and work ethic. Knowledge of the trials and tribulations of Year 12. Assistance with time management.

  7. Relevance to course selection? • It comes back to three fundamentals: • 1/ What do I need (for my pathway)? • 2/ What am I good at? • 3/ What do I like?

  8. 1/ What do I need? • Depends on pathway. • Is your student planning to: • a/ go to a tertiary institution? • b/ go to university or to TAFE? • c/ enter the workforce • d/ still unsure? In all cases it is important for students to achieve to their potential in order to maximise their choices.

  9. What do I need? High, but realistic aspirations. Disciplined thoughts. Disciplined actions. Disciplined people.

  10. What do I need? Categories of students: 1. VCE certificate student 2. VCAL certificate student 3. “Hybrid” student

  11. VCE CERTIFICATE STUDENT • To achieve the VCE must have: Completed 16 VCE units. and:

  12. VCE CERTIFICATE STUDENT English requirements: Three units from the English group (English, Literature, Foundation English 1 and 2). At least one of these must be at Unit 3 or 4 level. N.B. No Foundation English 3 or 4!

  13. VCE CERTIFICATE STUDENT English for University Pathways Need to have both units 3 and 4 English or Literature sequence to get a study score and an ATAR (discussed later). English and Lit. will count towards ATAR English/Literature the most common prerequisite for University courses

  14. VCE CERTIFICATE STUDENT Other requirements: At least three other unit 3, unit 4 sequences. e.g. Biology 3/4, History 3/4, Legal 3/4

  15. Implications of the five block model The five block model introduced this year. No “study” periods. More time for each subject. More time in front of teacher. Less flexibility in course selection.

  16. Implications of the five block model Most students will “roll over” the five subjects they are currently studying into 3/4 units next year.

  17. Implications of the five block model Exceptions to this may include: 1/ Students already undertaking unit 3/4 VET/VCE subject sequences. 2/ Students who need to make a change of subject for other reasons.

  18. Implications of the five block model Why do we ask students to do five subjects when in year 12? 1/ A safety net against failed units. 2/ Implications for the ATAR.

  19. I’ve already done a 3/4 unit at year 11 TSC encourages VCE students to choose five subjects when in year 12. 10 % of fifth andsixth study scores count toward ATAR. Increased diversity of course/meet more prerequisites. Can repeat a 3/4 unit with no penalty.

  20. Choosing the five year 12 subjects Can I pick up a unit 3/4 subject that I have not previously done at year 11? What if the subjects I wish to choose clash on the blocking sheet?

  21. Can I pick up a new subject in year 12? It depends! Two new subjects offered at 3/4 level: Media Studies and Physical Education. Some other subjects can be attempted at 3/4 level without having completed units 1/2 of the subject without significant disadvantage. Other 3/4 units require a unit 1/2 background.

  22. Can I pick up a new subject in year 12? Students currently enrolled in Foundation English mustchoose unit 3/4 English or Literature if they wish to obtain a VCE and/or an ATAR score.

  23. Can I pick up a new subject in year 12? Students cannot pick up new VET units at 3/4 level and have them count toward the VCE or relevant VET certificate .

  24. A clash of units or a subject not offered at TSC. Possibility of undertaking 3/4 unit by distance education. Past experience of dist. ed. shows only highly self motivated and well organised students experience success.

  25. Remember the guiding principles • 1/ What do I need? • 2/ What am I good at? • 3/ What do I like?

  26. Thinking of Tertiary Study? Why? TAFE or Uni? Why? What research have you done to justify a tertiary pathway?

  27. Thinkingof Tertiary Study? How long is my course? What will it cost me (or my parents)? What qualification do I get? What are the job prospects? Have you talked to any one who is working in the field you are interested in? Have you talked to employers?

  28. My chosen pathway requires a University degree. Successfully obtain the VCE. Achieve the appropriate ATAR. Meet the prerequisites for the course.

  29. What is ATAR? Australian Tertiary Admission Rank. A percentile ranking relative to all other Year 12 students in the state. e.g. an ATAR of 75 places you in the top 25% of students doing Year 12 VCE. e.g. an ATAR of 99 places you in the top 1% of all students in the state.

  30. What is it used for? Tertiary Institutions set an ATAR as a “cut off” score to select who can enter their courses.

  31. How is the ATAR calculated? Calculated from aggregate of VCE subject scores. English or Literature subject score plus: 1/ the next best three permissible subject scores. 2/ 10% of any fifth and/or sixth subject score(s).

  32. What is a subject score? Derived from scaled study scores. Study scores (0-50) show how you performed in that subject relative to all other students doing that subject

  33. SCALING Study scores are scaled to adjust for differences in abilities of students undertaking different studies. Ensures students neither advantaged or disadvantaged based on subjects they choose.

  34. Should scaling influence my course selection? • Absolutely not! • Remember: • What am I good at? • What do I need? • What do I like?

  35. Can VET (Vocational Education and Training) subjects contribute to the ATAR? Yes, but not all VET subjects make the same contribution. VET 3/4 sequences with a scored assessment (end of year exam) can be used as one of the primary four studies. e.g. Equine, Sport and Rec., Engineering

  36. VET subjects and the ATAR VET subjects with no scored assessment (no end of year exam) can be used as fifth or sixth subjects in the calculation of the ATAR. Increment counted as 10% of the average of the main four study scores. E.g. Auto, Building and Construction

  37. Examples of ATAR calculations

  38. How do I know what ATAR is required for the course I want? Victorian Tertiary Admissions Centre (VTAC) has a website that allows you to search for courses and get an idea of what ATAR might be required for these courses.

  39. Examples of ATAR for various courses

  40. Prerequisites Subjects that must be undertaken to get into a particular course at a tertiary institution. Different institutions may set different prerequisites for similar types of courses. No prerequisites then no course irrespective of ATAR achieved.

  41. How can I find the prerequisites for courses? Use the VTAC website again. VICTER 2015

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