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CAO Information Night Tuesday 6th December 2012 Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

CAO Information Night Tuesday 6th December 2012 Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey. Presentation. Career Guidance The CAO System Leaving Cert Points Grid National Framework of Qualifications The CAO Application Process Points for popular courses in UCC HPAT - Medicine

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CAO Information Night Tuesday 6th December 2012 Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

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  1. CAO Information Night Tuesday 6th December 2012 Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  2. Presentation • Career Guidance • The CAO System • Leaving Cert Points Grid • National Framework of Qualifications • The CAO Application Process • Points for popular courses in UCC • HPAT - Medicine • Useful Websites – • So where are the Jobs? Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  3. Career Guidance • Take stock of their present circumstances • Understand the factors influencing their decision making • Appreciate more realistically what they have to offer • Review & evaluate options • Identify preferred options • Formulate an action plan Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  4. The CAO • Organisation founded in 1976 by the higher education institutions (HEIs) in the Republic of Ireland. • Purpose is to process applications centrally and to deal with them in an efficient and fair manner. • It is the applicants own responsibility to ensure that the application is submitted accurately and in time. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  5. Irish Leaving Certificate Examination Points Calculation Grid Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  6. Core Subjects - MATHS • Fewer than 20% of Leaving Certificate students take this subject at higher level (nationally) • If you are capable of studying this subject at higher level, there are tremendous career opportunities • Higher Level Maths (C3) is a requirement for Level 8 Engineering Degree Courses and Mathematical Science in CIT and NUI’s • 2012: BONUS points (25 pts for achieving D3 in HL maths) where students have an honour in higher level maths – now awarded in all the NUI’s, UL, DIT, teacher training colleges plus WIT

  7. Accompanying conditions: • The six best results, in recognised subjects, in one Leaving Certificate Examination will be counted for points computation. • One sitting only of the Leaving Certificate Examination will be counted for points purposes. • In the case of Foundation Level Mathematics or Foundation Level Irish, some HEIs may not award the points shown above. If in any doubt, check with the Admissions Office of the appropriate HEIs. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  8. National Framework of Qualifications • Level 3 Junior Certificate • Level 5 Leaving Certificate/PLC • Level 6 Higher Certificate • Level 7 Ordinary Degree • Level 8 Honours Degree • Level 9 /10 Masters/ PhD Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

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  10. The Application Process • Information on courses is available from each HEI and the prospectus should be consulted before making an application Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  11. CAO distributes to schools and individuals an application pack containing an Application Form and a Handbook containing instructions and information about the application process. • Every applicant should be familiar with the contents of the CAO Handbook Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  12. Timely Action In order to be fair to all applicants, closing dates are strict and therefore action should be taken in good time. Do not leave everything to the last minute. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  13. Choosing Courses • Consult your Guidance Counsellor • Discuss your options with family and friends • Details about courses may be found in HEI prospectuses and by consulting HEI websites. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  14. Making an application • Applicants are encouraged to apply online. • The website address is www.cao.ie • Applying online is cheaper and it prevents many of the errors commonly associated with completing a paper application form. • Normal online application €40 (1st Feb. 2012) • Discounted rate €30 (20th Jan 2012) Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  15. Application Form: Part A • Part A of the Application Form is mostly self explanatory. • Information which identifies you is of the utmost importance. • Carefully enter details such as your name, address, date of birth, schools attended etc. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

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  17. Two Applications on One Form • There are two course choice lists and applicants may make up to ten course choices on each list. • 10 choices may be made on the Level 8 list • 10 choices may be made on the Level 7/6 list Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

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  19. Two Applications on One Form • It is possible to receive an offer on both lists • You may then decide to accept eitheryour Level 7/6 or your Level 8 offer. • Alternatively, you might not wish to accept either offer. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  20. Order of Preference • If you learn nothing else from this presentation let it be this... • Place your course choices in genuine order of preference! • To do otherwise is a grave mistake. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  21. Application Form: Part B • Most applicants will not be required to complete Part B of the application form. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  22. Supplementary Application Form (SIF) • The Higher Education Access Route (HEAR): A 3rd level admissions scheme for school leavers from socially economic disadvantaged backgrounds. (see pg. 8 of CAO Handbook) • Must provide additional info/documentation (income revenue forms, social welfare benefits ..... by 1st of April 2012 • DARE: Disability Access Route to Education Asperger’s, Autism, ADD. Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Physical Disability .... • Submit evidence of Disability and second level Academic Reference to CAO by 1st April 2012 Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  23. Your Application Number • If you apply online your application number will appear on your Receipt of Online Application. • This number is private and it will be used in every correspondence between you and the CAO for the rest of the year. • If you apply online you may change your course choices free of charge until January 31st. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  24. Statement of Course Choices The Statement is important for two reasons: 1. The Statement of Course Choices includes notification of your CAO application number. 2. The Statement of Course Choices lists the courses that you have applied for.If you have made any mistake or omission in your course choices then now is the time to rectify your error. Pay particular attention to restricted courses. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  25. Communicating With CAO • The easiest and most efficient way to communicate with CAO is by using the 'Contact Us' facility on the CAO website. • Always quote your CAO application number in any communication with CAO. • If you post something to CAO, always obtain a certificate of posting at the post office. This is a free service and it offers you peace of mind. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  26. Statement of Application Record. • Check the following carefully, if there is any error or omission, amend the Statement and return it to CAO. • Are all the courses shown and in the correct order? • Are all the codes correct? • Are the exam numbers correct? • Are all exams mentioned? • If you do not receive a Statement by 1st June contact CAO immediately. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  27. Change of mind • It is safer to use the Change of Mind Facility on the website than to use a paper Change of Mind form. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  28. Change of Mind • 1st Nov to 1st Feb (17:15) – no fee • 5th of Feb (12:00) to 1st March - €10 charge • 5th of May (12:00) to 1st July (17:15) – no fee • Late application to CAO not later then 5pm, 22nd July – extra fee Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  29. The Offer Process • In the week following the release of the Leaving Certificate results CAO will post a communication to all applicants. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  30. The Offer Process • If you are entitled to an offer, you will be sent an offer notice. You should check that all of the details on the offer notice are correct and that there are no omissions. • Offers will also be available on the CAO website. • You may check for and accept offers on the website. In fact, most applicants now record acceptances online. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  31. The Offer Process • Your offer notice may contain an offer • for a Level 8 course • or a Level 7/6 course • or both • If you receive two offers at the same time you may only accept one of them. • If you wish to accept an offer of a place you must carry out the instructions on the offer notice before 5.15pm on the closing date for acceptance printed on the offer notice. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  32. The Offer Process • There can be no delays at the offer/acceptance stage. • Any offer not accepted by the closing date for receipt of acceptance of offers in CAO will be offered to another applicant in the next round of offers. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  33. How Places are Allocated • We will look just at Level 8 courses, but exactly the same process will take place with Level 7/6 courses, and at the same time. • The importance of you, the applicant, placing courses in genuine order of preference will become apparent in the following slides. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  34. How Places are Allocated • When examination results are released in August they are entered into the CAO computer. • The computer checks each applicant’s results. For each course the applicant has applied for, the computer first determines if the applicant has the minimum entry requirements for the course. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  35. How Places are Allocated • If the applicant meets the minimum entry requirements for the course, the applicant’s points are calculated for this course choice. • All eligible applicants are then placed in a list, in order of academic merit, for each course that they applied for. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  36. How Places are Allocated • The admissions officers of the Higher Education Institutions tell CAO how many places are to be offered on each course • CAO then makes offers to the required number of applicants on each course starting with the applicant with the highest points and working down until enough places have been offered. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  37. How Places are Allocated • Should some applicants decline to accept their offers these places become available in the next round of offers. They will be offered to the next applicants on the order of merit list. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  38. These are the applicants for CK101 Arts in UCC. The examination results have not yet been released, so these applicants are in no particular order. We are going to trace the progress of the applicant marked in red. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  39. Applicants are placed in a queue for each course they applied for, their position in the queue is determined by their points. The applicant with the highest points is placed at the top of the queue. The points achieved by the applicant in red determines his position in the queue for each course he applied to. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  40. The applicants marked in green have enough points to be offered places. The applicant marked in red has enough points for his second preference. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  41. The applicant in red is offered his second preference, the highest preference course that he has enough points for, and he will now disappear from the queue in all his lower choices. Placing DN201 as his second preference meant that he would prefer to receive an offer on DN201 than on any other course except CK101 - which is his first preference. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  42. Having been offered his second preference he must now decide to accept it or to do nothing. If he does not accept the offer the place will be offered to another applicant in the next round of offers. Regardless of whether he accepts or not he will still be considered for an offer on his first preference if a place becomes available. In the second round, one more offer was made on CK101 and our applicant is now at the top of the queue. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  43. In the third round of offers two more offers are made on CK101 and our applicant, who was at the top of the queue, now receives an offer. He may do nothing and remain in DN201 or he may accept the offer and begin in CK101. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  44. Genuine Order of Preference • You do not need to guess what the points are going to be for the courses you are interested in. • Simply list your courses in genuine order of preference from the highest preference 1, to the lowest preference 10. • If you are entitled to an offer, you will be offered the highest preference that you are entitled to. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  45. College Courses (UCC) Required points 2011 2010 • Arts 345 350 • BIS (Business Information Systems) 400 380 • Sports Studies and Physical Education 480* 470 • Commerce 425 430 • Law 480* 485 • Law and French 535 490 • Electrical and Electronic Engineering 405 405 • Energy Engineering 485 495 • Architecture/CIT 420 445 • Science (Biological and Chemical) 400 375 • Medicine #734 #725 • Dentistry 570* 570* • Food Marketing and Entrepreneurship 420 390 Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  46. HPAT (Health Professions Admission Test) • Registration deadline – Mon 18th Jan 2012 • Test Date – Sat 25 Feb 2012 (2 ½ hr exam) • Results issued in late June 2012 • 3 sections assessed (aptitude test) (total: 300 marks) 1 Logical reasoning and problem solving skills 2 Interpersonal Understanding • Verbal Reasoning • Leaving Cert Pts plus HPAT combined = max score 860pts • Min LC pts = 480 to max 560 (moderated thereafter up to 560) Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  47. Scoring LC + HPat • If you achieve 600 points in the LCE this will become 560 adjusted LCE points and if you achieve a score of 155 in the • HPAT-Ireland test, your overall score will be 715. • • Similarly if you achieve 540 points in the LCE, and then get a HPAT-Ireland score of 175, your overall score will be 715. • • Or if you achieve 480 points in the LCE and then 235 in HPAT-Ireland, your overall score will be 715. Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  48. Useful Websites • www.cao.ie • www.qualifax.ie • Careersportal.ie • www.careersdirections.ie • www.studentfinance.ie • www.accesscollege.ie • www.fas.ie • www.hpatireland.ie Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  49. Info • CAO Presentation available on school website: www.stfranciscollege-rochestown.ie Ms.Geraldine Mulvey

  50. Where are the jobs in Ireland? Thriving sectors presently in Ireland, 2011... ‐ ICT ‐ Pharmaceuticals ‐ Food & Drink

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