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SDA. Seventh Day Adventist Joj. SDA i stret o no stret?. Ellen G White Profet blong SDA Joj Hem i stat long Joj ia klosap long 1850 Bilif ol tok blong William Miller William Miller i stap mekem fulup “Jisas bae i kam” profisi Problem blong SDA i stat wetem samting ia.

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  1. SDA Seventh Day Adventist Joj

  2. SDA i stret o no stret? • Ellen G White • Profet blong SDA Joj • Hem i stat long Jojiaklosap long 1850 • Bilif ol tok blong William Miller • William Miller i stap mekem fulup “Jisas bae i kam” profisi • Problem blong SDA i stat wetem samting ia.

  3. Ellen G White (EGW) – SistaWaet • The Lord’s Messenger – Long Mesenja Blong Lord • Prophetess • SDA Bilif: • Joj we hem i mekem i trujoj • Tok mo leta blong EGW i stret wod blong God

  4. SDA Bilif • Hem nomo i trujoj we i kompletem Protestant Reformation • Stat wetem Martyn Luther we i kamaot long KatolikJoj • Oli singaotem – “Mifala oli Pepol long Buk” • Taem yu toktok doktrin, oli kwik blong karemaotbaebol- Gud ia! • Yet taem yu wantem toktok long EGW(Tok, Leta, Wok), hem i no wantem karemaot Baebol – FROM?

  5. Bifalaves blong SDA • Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. [KJV]

  6. God i mekem plan blong sevem ol man afta long taem Adam i foldaon? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • I TRU • “The kingdom of grace was instituted immediately after the fall of man, when a plan was devised for the redemption of the guilty race.” • (Great Controversy, p.347) • I NO TRU • 1 Pita 1:18-20 • Eph 1:4 • Salvesen i kamtrugraes long bilif long Jisas Kraes, bifo God i mekem wol ia.

  7. Bifo Noa, Man i go silip wetem anamol mo bonem man we i no semak long nara man, hem i stap andanet? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • I TRU • “But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man and beast …” (Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p.64). • “…Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen …in certain races of men.” (Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p.75). • I NO TRU • Gen 1:24 God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: cattle, creeping things, and wild animals, each according to its kind.” It was so. • Gen 1:25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the cattle according to their kinds, and all the creatures that creep along the ground according to their kinds. God saw that it was good.

  8. Long Man Jisas i God tu EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • I NO TRU • “The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty.” (Letter 32, 1999, quoted in the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Vol. 5, p.1129). • I TRU • Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. • Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. • Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

  9. Atonement i finis long kros? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • I NO TRU • “Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly sanctuary, …, in 1844, to make a final atonement for all who could be benefited by His mediation.” • (Early Writings, p.253). • I TRU • John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. • Rom 5:9 Much more then, because we have now been declared righteous by his blood, we will be saved through him from God’s wrath. • Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more, since we have been reconciled, will we be saved by his life? • Rom 5:11 Not only this, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received this reconciliation. • Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. [KJV]

  10. Blad blong Jisas i karemaot ol sin? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • I NO TRU • “The blood of Christ, while it was to release the repentant sinner from the condemnation of the law, was not to cancel sin…it will stand in the sanctuary until the final atonement.” • (Patriarchs and Prophets, p.357). • I TRU • Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; • 1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

  11. Hu i telem sin blong yumi EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • SETAN • “It was seen, also, that while the sin offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, the scapegoat typified Satan, the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed. Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, … so Satan, …will at last suffer the full penalty of sin.” • (Great Controversy, p.422,485,486). • JISAS • Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; • 1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

  12. Yumi save singaot naoia yumi sef we i kamtru Jisas Kraes? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • NO • “Those who accept the Saviour, however sincere their conversion, should never be taught to say or feel that they are saved. Those who accept Christ, and in their first confidence say, I am saved, are in danger of trusting to themselves.” • (Christ's Object Lessons, p. 155). • YES • John 5:24 “I tell you the solemn truth, the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life. • 1John 5:13 I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

  13. Yumi save telemaot we yumi no save sin naoia? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • YES • “Christ died to make it possible for you to cease to sin, and sin is the transgression of the law.” • (Review and Herald, Vol. 71, No. 35, p.1, August 28, 1894). • “To be redeemed means to cease from sin.” • (Review and Herald, Vol. 77, No. 39, p.1, September 25, 1900). • NO • 1John 1:8 If we say we do not bear the guilt of sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. • 1John 1:9 But if we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous, forgiving us our sins and cleansing us from all unrighteousness.

  14. Jisas i go long tapolin we i hae we i hae (Heavenly Sanctuary) blong heven bifo Oktoba 22 1844? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • NO • “I was shown that…the door was opened in the most holy place in the heavenly sanctuary, where the ark is, in which are contained the ten commandments. This door was not opened until the mediation of Jesus was finished in the holy place of the sanctuary in 1844. Then Jesus rose up and shut the door of the holy place, and opened the door into the most holy, and passed within the second veil, wherehe now stands by the ark.” • (Early Writings, p.42) • YES • Heb 9:12 and he entered once for all into the most holy place not by the blood of goats and calves but by his own blood, and so he himself secured eternal redemption. • I raetem long 60AD!

  15. “Seal Blong God i olsem wanem? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • SABBATH • “The enemies of God's law, from the ministers down to the least among them, have a new conception of truth and duty. Too late they see that the Sabbath of the fourth commandment is the seal of the living God.” • (Great Controversy, p.640). • TABU SPIRIT • Eph 1:13 And when you heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation) – when you believed in Christ – you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit, • Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

  16. Yumi save long stret taem we Kraes i kam bakegen? EGW i telem se Baebol i telem se • YES • “As God has shown me in holy vision…we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming.” • (Early Writings, pp.15,34,285). • NO • Matt 25:13 Therefore stay alert, because you do not know the day or the hour. • Mark 13:32 “But as for that day or hour no one knows it – neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son – except the Father.

  17. SDA Joj • “That we reaffirm our abiding confidence in the Testimonies of Sister White to the church, as the teaching of the Spirit of God.” • (SDA Year Book for 1914, p.253). • “The Spirit of Prophecy (Mrs. White's writings) is a fundamental part of this message. Since the rise of this message, this denomination has believed in the Spirit of Prophecy. We have preached it as widely as we have the Sabbath and other kindred truths, and believe it as thoroughly. To us it makes a vast difference whether one whom we have regarded from the rise of this message as being endowed with the prophetic gift, is a prophet of God, or whether she is not.” • (A Statement by the General Conference Committee, May, 1906, pp.10,86). • “Our position on the Testimonies is like the keystone to the arch. Take that out, and there is no logical stopping place till all the special truths of the message are gone. Nothing is surer than this, that the message and the visions (of Mrs. White) belong together, and stand or fall together.” • (Review and Herald Supplement, August 14, 1883).

  18. Bilif we wan man (o woman) i gat raet blong explen long Baebol we i neva rong i semak olsem…. • Katolik- Pope • Mormon – Joseph Smith • Witnes Blong Jehova – Watchtower • Christian Science – Mrs Eddy

  19. Amalgamation“Blakman i no man” • “Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the RESULT OF AMALGAMATION, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been AMALGAMATION OF MAN AND BEAST, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, AND IN CERTAIN RACES OF MEN.” • (Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p.75).

  20. Amalgamation“Blakman i no man” • SDA Elda Ingraham • hem i telem se EGW i telem man blong hem olsem, we God i neva mekem blakman. EGW hem i kalemblackman, Darky (Daki) • Uriah Smith (SDA Leda) • i ting se ol kaenpepolia we EGW i tokbaot oli sam blakman blong Afrika. • The Visions of Mrs. E.G. White, p.1030 (1868)).” Long bukia i no gat naoia, be bifo long SDA bukstoa i selemfrom naoia oli harem sem from. Yet 2000 bukia i goraon wetem EGW mo man blong hem long taem i prij.

  21. Moa krangke • I luk tempel long heven (Exp & Viewsp16) • Gogat (Rev 21:22) • Sin agens Tabu Spirit taem yu go agenswod blong hem • Taem yu prea - mas dodaon long leg (Selected Messages V2, p311) • Nara ples i telem se yu no nid(Leta March 4, 1934) • I kaontemmun blong ol planet • Jupiter 4, Saturn 8, • Jupiter i bitim 16, Saturn i bitim 18 • Mas no shave long Sabbath (Sign of the Times May 25 1882) • Sud no usummekap (Healtful living p189) • DringLifti = Sin mo givim sik • Mi no kaekae bata • Mi no kaekae jis o egg (AG Daniels – luk bata mo egg)

  22. SDA no Kaekae Pig? • EGW “Never should one morsel of swine's flesh be placed upon your table.” (Testimonies, Volume 2, p.3) • EGW “IfGod requires His people to abstain from swine's flesh, He will convict them on the matter. He is just as willing to show His honest children their duty, as to show their duty to individuals upon whom He has not laid the burden of His work. Ifit is the duty of the church to abstain from swine's flesh, God will discover it to more than two or three. He will teach His church their duty.” (Testimonies, Volume 1, p.206) • James White 1850 - “Some of our good brethren have added ‘swine's flesh’ to the catalogue of things forbidden by the Holy Ghost, and the apostles and elders assembled at Jerusalem. But we feel called upon to protest against such a course, as being contrary to the plain teaching of the holy scriptures. Shall we lay a greater ‘burden’ on the disciples than seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and the holy apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ? God forbid. Their decision, being right, settled the question with them, and was a cause of rejoicing among the churches, and it should forever settle the question with us.” • (The Present Truth, Vol. 1, November 1850, No. 11, “Swine's Flesh”).

  23. SDA no Kaekae Pig? • EGW “It is just as much sin to violate the laws of our being as to break one of the Ten Commandments.” In other words, eating a slice of bacon is a sinful as committing adultery. And, “the use of swine’s flesh is contrary to his (God’s) express commandments”. (Testimonies to the Church, Volume 2, pp.70,96; respectively). • SDA Amazing Facts Pg 3 • Question “but I like pork, will God destroy me if I eat it?” • Answer: “This may be shocking, but it is true and must be told. The Bible positively states that all that eat “swine’s flesh,” the “mouse” and other unclean things will be destroyed with fire at the coming of the Lord.”

  24. SDA no Kaekae Pig? • EGW: “Let not any of our ministers set an EVIL EXAMPLE IN THE EATING OF FLESHMEAT. Let them and their families live up to the light of health reform. Let not our ministers animalizetheir own nature and the nature of their children.” • (Spalding and Magan, p.211). • Exod 12:7 They will take some of the blood and put it on the two side posts and top of the doorframe of the houses where they will eat it. • Exod 12:8 They will eat the meat the same night; they will eat it roasted over the fire with bread made without yeast and with bitter herbs. • 1Kgs 17:6 The ravens would bring him [Elijah] bread and meat each morning and evening, and he would drink from the stream. • Luke 22:15 And he said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.

  25. Profisi we i no kam tru Ellen G White

  26. EGW mo SDA i singaot….. • Mrs.White, mo SDA oli singaotolsem we hem i gat Spirit blong Profisi long Decemba 1844 kasem long taem hem i ded (Okis 1915) • Hem i raetem 20+ buk • Hem i singaot we hem i savegud ol Fuja

  27. Tru Profet blong God….

  28. Giaman Profisi

  29. Giaman Profisi

  30. From wanem ol profisiia i no hapen? • 1. EGW i no harem voes blong God be narafla god (Devil)? • 2. EGW i no harem voes long hed blong hem nomo? • 3. Sam man o samting i spolem o blokem [click] • EGW i jusum 3! • “Thus the work was hindered, and the world was left in darkness. Had the whole Adventist body united upon the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, how widely different would have been our history.” (Selected Messages, Book 1, p.299). EGW i telemaot, ol memba blong SDA joj i mekem problem ya!

  31. EGW i pasem test blong Profet o no? • 1John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. • Matt 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

  32. FAILED Test #1 Profisi mas happen • 4 profisi we Jisas i kam bak – I NO HAPPEN • Sam man we i laef yet bae i no ded – EVRIWAN I DED FINIS • “I was shown the company present at the Conference. • Said the angel: [Matt 24,36 – Angel oli no save] • Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, • some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus.” (Testimonies, Volume 1, p.131).

  33. FAILED Test #2 Ol drim oli no gat giaman o krangke tok nating • Jer 23:32 I, the LORD, affirm that I am opposed to those prophets who dream up lies and report them. They are misleading my people with their reckless lies. I did not send them. I did not commission them. They are not helping these people at all. I, the LORD, affirm it!” • Doa we i klos finis • SDA i lego drim ya long 1850s • Yet bifo plante memba oli bilif • EGW i mekem giaman doktren • Heven i gat temple – NOGAT • Taem mi drim mi gat wing – Cherubim mo Seraphim i gat wing nomo. God, Jisas, Tabu Spirit, nara Engel, Man, Devel - NOGAT

  34. FAILED Test #3 Mas no stilim samting we nara man i raetem finis. • Jer23:30 So I, the LORD, affirm that I am opposed to those prophets who steal messages from one another that they claim are from me. • Bifo 1983 – SDA i telem se EGW i kopi 8-10% • Desire of Ages hem i kopi we i bitim 30% (Dr Veltman) • Narafala buk – kasem 90%! (Dr Veltman) • VELTMAN “I must admit at the start that in my judgment this is the most serious problem to be faced in connection with Ellen White's literary dependency. It strikes at the heart of her honesty, her integrity, and therefore her trustworthiness.” (Ministry, December 1990, pp.11,14).

  35. FAILED Test #4 Mas no mekem tok we i difren olsem we Baebol i telem. • 1Tim 6:3 If someone spreads false teachings and does not agree with sound words (that is, those of our Lord Jesus Christ) and with the teaching that accords with godliness,4 he is conceited and understands nothing, but has an unhealthy interest in controversies and verbal disputes. This gives rise to envy, dissension, slanders, evil suspicions,5 and constant bickering by people corrupted in their minds and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a way of making a profit. • Tufalastamba long SDA Joj (Sabbath mo Investigative Judgement) i no save soem long Baebol

  36. FAILED Test #5 Mas agri wetem tok we Elda Pol i mekem i Oda blong God • 1Cor 14:37 If anyone considers himself a prophet or spiritual person, he should acknowledge that what I write to you is the Lord’s command. • YET ELDA POL I TELEM • 1Cor 14:34-35 the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak. Rather, let them be in submission, as in fact the law says.35If they want to find out about something, they should ask their husbands at home, because it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in church. • 1Tim 2:11-12 A woman must learn quietly with all submissiveness.12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man. She must remain quiet.

  37. EGW i no Profet Blong GodHem i semak olsem Joseph Smith!

  38. Doktrin we i no stret • SDA nomo i gat stret ansa long profisi • Bambae Wol i finis long generesen ya • Judgement i stat long 1844 • Mas holem strong Sabbath – Seventh Dei – Saredei • Holem Sandei = Mak blong Beast • EGW i “inspired” olsem ol nara man hu i stap raetembaebol – Mas interpret baebolagenswod blong EGW • Ded i no save mekem tingting – “Soul Sleep” • Ol man nogud mo devel oli “annihilated” • Evri narajoj i gat nem – Babylon. God i tenem fesagens ol joj be no SDA.

  39. Wok blong Olgeta • Evri memba mas Givimaot ol pepa, buk, infomesen • Semak olsem Witnes Blong Jehova • LUKAOT GUD SAMTING YA • Sipos i tenem wan • Afta: I mekem plante oli konfus – wetem man blong Joj tu • Afta: Taem oli konfus i lusum bilif long evri joj • Afta: Man nogud > No gat janis: Man blong Joj oli no gat paoa

  40. Wok blong ol Kultia Kult SDA, Mormon, JW…. Stret Joj – BodiBlongKraes Man Blong Jisas Man Blong Jisas Man Blong Jisas Man Blong Kult Man Blong Kult Man Blong Jisas Man Blong Jisas Man Blong Jisas Man Blong Kult Man Blong Kult Man Nogud Man Nogud Man Blong Kult Man Nogud Man Nogud

  41. Wok we i mekem • Tenet Miting / Krusade – AMAZING FACTS • Tok i sofsof. No mekem man i harem nogud, mo spolem tingting, gogo kasem taem i tok stret doktren blong olgeta. • Mekem jalenj blong prufem hem i rong…. • Kamp Miting: • Evri Ya • Ripot i go lonnius i soemoat ol flas – Hem i reatemripot • Baebol Stadi • Go olbaot long evri haos blong ronemstadiia (Vanuatu?) • Hedem nem SDA fastaem • Wok agenjoj o pasta blong yumi • Missions • Traem lukaot ol gudfala famili from oli gat moa mani! • EGW Mistakes have been made in not seeking to reach ministers and the higher classes with the truth.... Educate men and women to laborfor these higher classes both here and there and in other countries.” (Testimony No. 33, pages 108, 109). SDA i mekem gudfala rod blong hemlong ol Kantri we oli no luksave olgeta

  42. Pepos long SDA • WAN PEPOS NOMO BLONG MEKEM MANI Vanuatu Tithes 136,660,935 Vatu 8,883Vt/memba/yia 18,000/famile/Ya (2012 Budget, SDA Tithe Envelope) World Tithes: 2.17 Billion USD- 217 Billon Vatu – 13,000 PP/PA Mormon Joj – 7 Billion USD – 700 Billion Vatu – 60,000Vt/PP/PA Vanuatu GDP = 0.76 Billion USD – 76 Billion Vatu 6.2% SDA = 15,195 members (NZ 11,923; Australia 56,741) Presbyterian 36.7%, Anglican 15%, Kastom 8.6, Church of Christ 3.8%, other 15.7%

  43. Pepos long SDA • Apr 02, 2012 Silver Spring, Maryland, United States • Ansel Oliver/ANN • How much money would the Seventh-day Adventist Church have for mission each year if world membership records were accurate and each member returned a faithful tithe? • About US$14 billion. • The denomination currently receives about $2 billion annually. • That’s according to this year’s edition of the Global Tithing Index (GTI), which is a report measuring 2010 statistics of tithing faithfulness per capita across countries. • … • The GTI is an instrument that aims to level the field in comparing tithing faithfulness across countries that have economic disparity. It measures tithe per-capita by comparing a nation’s measure Gross Domestic Product with the aggregate tithe volume per country divided by the number of members on church rolls. • The GTI examines 104 countries and uses information from the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists 2010 Statistical Report and the United States’ Central Intelligence Agency World Factbook. • Unfortunately, Richli said, about one-third of countries surveyed contribute less than 10 percent of total tithe potential. He said that figure “clearly shows that in those countries, church rolls are vastly inflated.”

  44. Mekem Mani – Global Tithe Index Stret 10% Tithe = GTI 100% Top kantri Switzerland = 64.6% Wos kantri India = 0.8% USA = 16.4% Australia = 29.7% NZ = 27.5% UK = 24.9% PNG = 21.3% Fiji = 11.3% • Vanuatu’s GTI = 31% • Hem i menem se: • Ol memba oli no givim 3x les tithe? (3% nomo) • Yu nogat 15,194 memba be SDA gat klosap 5,000 memba nomo! Increase 2002-2010 = 18% PA (World 9.3%) 2010-2011 = 10%PA (World5.65%)

  45. SDA i no laekem ol naraJoj • EGW “I saw them [Yumi long Joj] look up to the throne and pray, Father give us thy spirit; Satan would then breathe upon them an unholy influence.” (Early Writings, p.47). • EGW “All intelligent people know that such statements are a misrepresentation of the evangelical churches today. Elder White says: Other churches are “now the synagogue of Satan.” (Present Truth, April, 1850).

  46. SDA i no laekem ol naraJoj • EGW “The converts are not renewed in heart or changed in character. They will exult that God is working marvelously for them, when the work is that of another spirit. Under a religious guise, Satan will spread his influence over the land. HE HOPES TO DECEIVE MANY BY LEADING THEM TO THINK THAT GOD IS STILL WITH THE CHURCHES.” (Great Controversy, p.294,296).

  47. SDA i no laekem ol naraJoj • “We are aware that to assume that this revival work, so unquestionably accepted by all the churches, is NOT genuine, will cause the hands of Christendom to be raised in holy horror..” Review and Herald May 3 1887 This rivival work: Billy Sunday : 1 M saved Bob Jones Sr: 1 M saved D.L.Moody: Klosap: 1M saved R.A.Torrey, Sam Jones, Wilber Chapman, Mordecai Ham, Gipsy Smith, Peter Cartright, Charles Finney, Scofield, Mel Trotter (67 rescue missions), Harry Ironside………..

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