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Discussion After Coffee

Discussion After Coffee. Phase 1 Outcomes: What additional value / problems compared to the CMUG results were identified in climate research groups of the different ECV teams? What were major limiting factors in data usage identified by the CRG's? Phase 2 and CCI-2 plans

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Discussion After Coffee

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  1. Discussion After Coffee Phase 1 Outcomes: • What additional value / problems compared to the CMUG results were identified in climate research groups of the different ECV teams? • What were major limiting factors in data usage identified by the CRG's? Phase 2 and CCI-2 plans • How will phase-2 address limitations of phase-1 data identified by CMUG/CRG's ? • What should be the new variables/products in a potential CCI-2? (e.g. Snow, Lakes, Salinity, Albedo, …….)

  2. Discussion After Coffee Phase 1 Outcomes: • What additional value / problems compared to the CMUG results were identified in climate research groups of the different ECV teams? • GHG: CRG inverse modelling for surface fluxes – can CMUG do something complementary? • SM: Data assimilation aspects – cf CCI products with other assimilated products – eg as done with SURFEX • Aerosol: complementary work in CRG on AOD. Fire / cloud complementary studies. Can aerosols be divided in to types, as this is useful for modellers. In MACC there will be an across ECV assessment mode. • SSH: CRG has global perspective, CMUG was regional • LC: more use of ancilliary variables in models, use other ECVs (SM). Examine regional and local scale improvements to the model. • OC: examine the effect of OC on heat uptake – MetO is working on this in a different project - this can be linked to CMUG P2 assessment • SI: ice thickness product quality and usefulness – will be discussed at workshop in Q3. LC input to open water dataset – could this be of use? See outside projects. • Cloud: P1 was a short (3 yr) time period for evaluation. • Cld/aerosol: ensure same masks, where possible, esp with common instrument retrievals. See: (i) Glob cloud mask project, (ii) consistency work in aerosol CCI. Cloud clearing round robin 16th Reading (led by Glob Temp, Stephen Plummer) • SST: different.....

  3. Discussion After Coffee Phase 1 Outcomes: • What were major limiting factors in data usage identified by the CRG's?

  4. Discussion After Coffee Phase 2 and CCI-2 plans • How will phase-2 address limitations of phase-1 data identified by CMUG/CRG's ? • Other users already engaged by CRGs can help answer this • Documentation (System Maturity Matrix, Obs4MIPs) on the application of datasets by modellers (will cover sampling etc) • Obs4MIPs – all ECVs should be in it for P2. One of many data channe

  5. Discussion After Coffee • What should be the new variables/products in a potential CCI-2? (e.g. Snow, Lakes, Salinity, Albedo, …….) • Don’t duplicate other well produced variables

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