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September 2007 Mesh Meeting Agenda. Authors:. Date: 2007-09-18. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group. TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Waikoloa, Hawai‘i 17-20 September, 2007
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September 2007Mesh Meeting Agenda Authors: Date: 2007-09-18 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
IEEE 802.11s:Mesh NetworkingTask Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Waikoloa, Hawai‘i 17-20 September, 2007 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com +1-508-786-7554 Technical Editor: Steve Conner, Intel Secretary: Stephen Rayment, BelAir Networks Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Venue Waikoloa, Big Island, Hawai‘i Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
General Flow of the TGs Meeting • Monday • Administrivia and Status • TGs Process Presentation • Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Tuesday • Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Wednesday • Security Presentations • Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Thursday • TGs Process Discussion • Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room • Call meeting to Order • Selection of Temporary Secretary for this session: Dee Denteneer • Automated Attendance Recording • Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Miscellaneous Announcements • Agenda approved unanimously • Minutes all approved unanimously: • July 2007 Meeting Minutes, 11-07/2277r0 • 12-14 September (Kaua‘i) Ad Hoc Meeting, 11-07/2413r0 • Teleconference Minutes, approved by unanimous consent • 25 July 2007, 11-07/2281r0 • 8, 15, 22, 29 August 2007, 11-07/2300r0, 11-07/2325r0, 11-07/2337r0, 11-07/2356r0 • 5 September 2007, 11-07/2377r1 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Important Stuff • Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. • Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html • Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf • IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html • IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt • Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Miscellaneous Announcements • Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! • The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. • Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! • Individual membership • In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. • Photographs and Recordings • No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. • No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. • Media – Press and Analyst briefings • Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Affiliation • It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, 5.2.1.5 as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. • Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw 5.2.1.1 • Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Affiliation Policy • Requirement to declare affiliation at all standards development meetings and recorded in the minutes • Affiliation not necessarily same as employer • Declaration requirement may be familiar to some 802 WGs, though WG declaration process may evolve • 11. What if I refuse to disclose my affiliation? • As outlined in IEEE-SA governance documents, you will lose certain rights. In a working group where voting rights are gained through attendance, no attendance credit will be granted if affiliation isn’t declared. Similarly, voting rights are to be removed if affiliation isn’t declared. • Affiliation declaration will be added to Sponsor ballot • http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Automated Attendance Recording • Go to http://newton.events.ieee.org(Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) • Create a profile • Claim attendance credit for each session. • Only “create a profile” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT“sign-in” for others. • You have to log in every session! • Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room • Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot • Draft D1.06, W. Steven Conner • “Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802.11 Letter Ballot 93”, Donald Eastlake, 11-07/23r47 • Presentation and Discussion on Process • “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2398r0 • Announcement: • Steve Conner will be unable to continue as Technical Editor after this meeting • “Editorial fixes for TGs D1.06”, 11-07/2301r3, Donald Eastlake, Dee Denteneer, Tony Braskich, Michelle Gong • “Probe Request Frame Cleanup”, 11-07/2445r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room • “Beaconing Analysis in Mesh”, 11-07/2414r1, Jarkko Knecht • Straw Poll, Are you in favor of deleting the designated beacon broadcaster from 802.11s specs? • Yes: 17 No: 0 Abstain: 3 • “Mesh Beacon and Legacy Beacon”, 11-07/2306r2, Kazuyuki Sakoda • Straw Poll, Do you favor these cleanups to consistently separate the AP and MP Beacons? • Yes: 20 No: 0 Abstain: 4 • “MDA Fixes for TGs”, 11-07/2375r2, Dee Denteneer • “Resolution of Guava Comments”, 11-07/2409r0, Guenael Strutt • Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 16:00-18:00, King’s 2 Room • Call meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, To adopt all resolutions of Open comments marked in 11-07/23r47 as Accept, Reject, or Counter and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda • Unanimous consent. • Moved, To adopt the changes to Draft D1.06 in 11-07/2301r3 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda • Unanimous consent. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 16:00-18:00, King’s 2 Room • “Performance Evaluation of ‘Express Forwarding’for a Single-Channel Mesh”, 11-07/2454r0, Mathilde Benveniste • Straw Poll, How many people are in favor of including some version of Express Forwarding as an option in the Draft? • Yes: 6 No: 10 Abstain: 13 • Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 19:30-21:30, King’s 2 Room • Call meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to remove all the information elements except Mesh ID element from the probe request frame, as shown previously in the slide 8 of 11-07/2445r0 (Probe Request Frame Cleanup). • Moved by: Kazayuki Sakoda Second by: Michelle Gong • Adopted by unanimous consent. • Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2409r0 (Resolution of Guava Comments) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Guenael Strutt Seconded: Michael Bahr • Adopted by unanimous consent. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 17 September 2007 19:30-21:30, King’s 2 Room • Moved, to adopt the Draft changes shown in 11-07/2306r2 (Mesh Beacon and Legacy Beacon) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved by: Kazayuki Sakoda Second by: Guenael Strutt • Adopted by unanimous consent. • “Forwarding at Intermediate and Destination Mesh Points (MP) using 6-Address Scheme”, 11-07/2439r0, Liwen Chu • “Regulatory Domains, etc. (?)”, 11-07/xxxxr0, Guido Hiertz • Recess until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 18 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2375r2 (MDA Fixes for TGs) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Steve Emeott • Adopted by unanimous consent. • “Suggested Resolution for Open Security Comments”, 11-07/2411r2, Meiyuan Zhao • “WLAN Segregated Data Services”, 11-07/2491r1, Donald Eastlake Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 18 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room • Straw poll on in subgroups for comment resolution • General – 2, Security – 4, MAC – 8, RFI – 4 • Divide into three subgroups for comment resolution: • Security – Jesse Walker • MAC – Michelle Gong • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Reconvene and Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 18 September 2007 19:30-21:30, King’s 2 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Automated Attendance Recording Reminder • “Beaconing analysis in mesh”, 11-07/2414r1, Jarkko Knecht • “A simple & scalable traffic engineering solution for 802.11s”, 11-07/2534, Guido Hiertz • “8 RFI comments”,11-07/2517r0, Guenael Strutt • “MDA Simulation Study: MDAOP Stretching and Other Concerns”, 11-07/2537r0, Steve Emeott Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 18 September 2007 19:30-21:30, King’s 2 Room • “Common TSF Issues”, 11-07/2518r1, Zhen Xie • Straw Poll #1: Should “Synchronization Mode Identifier” be included in the draft to allow different synchronization modes? • Yes: 7 No: 1 Abstain: 13 • Straw Poll #2: Is there any interest to investigate in the direction of “Peer Link Synchronization Mode”? • Yes: 11 No: 1 Abstain: 7 • Straw Poll #3: Should references to “common mesh TSF” be removed from the draft? • Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 8 • Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 19 September 20078:00-10:00, King’s 2 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Security Presentations • “Updates on Abbreviated Handshake” Meiyuan Zhao, (slides: TBD, word: 07/1999r4) • “Simulation Evaluation on Peer Link Management Protocol”. Meiyuan Zhao, (can be deferred depending on time available) • Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 19 September 20078:00-10:00, King’s 2 Room • [Following motions will be slipped to the afternoon session if there is insufficient time in this morning session.] • Moved, to delete Designated Beacon Broadcaster and Connectivity Report mechanisms from the 802.11s standard • Delete section 7.3.2.68 Connectivity Report element • Remove Table s25—Mesh Resource Coordination Action field values action field 9 • Delete section 7.4.13.10 Connectivity Report frame format • Delete the lines 61 -65 from page 211 and lines 1-4 from page 212, section 11A.12.3.2 Beaconing by synchronizing MPs • Delete sections 11A.12.3.2.1 , 11A.12.3.2.2 and 11A.12.3.2.3. • Delete the lines 10 -18 from page 219, section 11A.13.4.2 • To resolve comments: 55, 57,58,67,68, 72, 76, 78, 79, 80, 81, 83, 85, 86, 87, 119, 177, 178, 475, 473, 474, 500, 767, 768, 770, 771, 908, 909, 911, 912, 916, 917, 918, 936, 937, 954, 1074, 1110, 1113, 1114, 1115, 1116, 1117, 1118, 1119, 1243, 1376, 1494, 1523, 1576, 1578, 1980, 2155, 2157, 2158, 2354, 2734, 3507, 3519, 3520, 3545, 3569, 3570, 3646, 3799, 3899, 3900, 3901, 3902, 3906, 4184, 4445, 4446, 4845, 4846, 5005, 5007, 5008, 5009, 5013, 5041, 5561, 5649, 5650, 5673 • Moved: Seconded: • Yes: No: Abstain: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 19 September 20078:00-10:00, King’s 2 Room • Moved, to enter the comment resolutions in submission 11-07/2517r0 (8 RFI comments) into the TGs comment resolution spread sheet, Close those which are Accept, Counter, and Reject, and direct the Editor to incorporate those which are Accept or Counter into the Draft. • Moved: Seconded: • Yes: No: Abstain: • Moved, to adopt the changes in submission 11-07/2536r0 (MDA Channel Access and Retransmission Behavior Comment Resolution), resolving CIDs 1045, 1300, and 1538and direct the Editor to enter them into theDraft. • Moved: Seconded: • Yes: No: Abstain: • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Pending Submission Presentations Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 19 September 200713:30-15:30, King’s 2 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Adjourn until 13:30 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 20 September 200713:30-15:30, King’s 2 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • Moved, To adopt all Open comment resolutions marked with proposed resolution of Accept, Counter, or Reject in 11-07/23rTBD. • Discussion and Votes re Process • “TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2398r1 • StrawPoll on when to hold teleconferences: • Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences from October through November meetings, starting 10 October through 21 November, Wednesdays, except during the Atlanta, at TBDam/pm. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 20 September 200713:30-15:30, (cont.) • Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before this motion. • Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again? • From November Meeting: After November Meeting: • Other Technical Presentations • Adjourn sine die • TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
[Reference Information] • Updated version at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. • Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. • Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.06: • 11-07/23r47: Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802.11 Letter Ballot 93 • Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based: • 11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to 802.11 TGs • 11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to 802.11 TGs Overview • Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts) • 11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for 802.11s • 11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope • 11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists • 11-04/662r16: Usage Models • 11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for 802.11s Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
[Earlier Meeting Minutes] • Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes • September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 • July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 • June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 • May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 • April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 • March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0 • February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0 • January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0 • November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11-06/1788r0 • November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11-06/1652r1 • September 2006, Melbourne, Australia, 11-06/1565r0 • July 2006 San Diego, California, 11-06/1007r0 • June 2006 Ad Hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-06/849r0 • Recent Teleconference Minutes • 23, 30 May 2007, 11-07/1961r0, 11-07/1966r0 • 20, 27 June 2007, 11-07/2015r0, 11-07/2042r0 • 11 July 2007, 11-07/2141r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola