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Loreto College, Swords. CAO Information Evening Patricia Kennedy Guidance Counsellor. CAO – General Info. Centralised application system for 43 Irish 3 rd level institutions, including 7 fee-paying colleges . National Framework of Qualifications – 10 Levels. Selection of courses.
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Loreto College, Swords CAO Information Evening Patricia Kennedy Guidance Counsellor
CAO – General Info. Centralised application system for 43 Irish 3rd level institutions, including 7 fee-paying colleges.
Selection of courses • Apply for up to 20 courses • Level 8 list – Choose 10 • Honours Degrees • Level 6/7 list – Choose 10 • Higher Certificates • Ordinary Degrees
STAGE 1: ENTRY REQUIREMENTS These must be satisfied before “points” are considered
Level 6 & 7- Minimum Entry Requirement • 5 passes for most level 6 & level 7 courses although some colleges e.g. DKIT require Minimum 200 points • College Prospectuses need to be consulted
Level 8 – Minimum Entry Requirement • Different colleges have different entry requirements • NUI colleges (UCD, UCC, NUIM & NUIG)require 2 HC3 and 4 Passes • NUI colleges have a second language requirement also- some exceptions e.g. Science and engineering courses • TCD requires 3 HC3 and 3 passes • CHECK PROSPECTUS
STAGE 2: Faculty Requirements Examples.... Pharmacy – TCD and UCC – HC3 in Chemistry and a 2nd science subject Physiotherapy (TCD) – HC3 in 2 science subjects or HC3 in 1 science and higher maths Primary Teaching – HC3 in Irish College Prospectus should always be consulted
If all Entry Requirements and Faculty requirements (if needed) are met applicant is deemed ‘Qualified’ to apply. THEN “Points” are considered.
STAGE 3:POINTS ALLOCATION GradeHonoursOrdinaryBonus Points A1 100 60 25 A2 90 50 25 B1 85 45 25 B2 80 40 25 B3 75 35 25 C1 70 30 25 C2 65 25 25 C3 60 20 25 D1 55 15 25 D2 50 10 25 D3 45 5 25 (Hons Maths)
POINTS SYSTEM • Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only. • Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects • New system of Bonus points are awarded for Honours Mathematics as outlined earlier (Maximum points now 625) • Entry Requirements can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate
Example of Points Calculation • Irish HC2 • English HD1 • Maths HD2 • French HB2 • Biology HC1 • Geography OA1 • History HB3 • 65 • 55 • 50+25 = 75 • 80 • 70 • 60 • 75 • Total = 425 (leave out 55 point result)
RESTRICTED ENTRY COURSES • Some courses have Interviews/ Aptitude tests/Portfolio/Auditions • Must apply to CAO by February 1st for these courses • Medicine – HPAT test March 2nd • _ apply by January 20th • Check CAO handbook page 4
So – what is the best way to fill in the courses? Dream Courses Realistic Courses Banker Courses
Making an Application • Applications can be made online or by paper form. • Always keep proof of sending application. Online-print screen receipt. • Paper-obtain certificate of posting. • Fill out both course lists • In genuine order of • Preference- not based on • Predictions of next years grades.
After Making Application • Receive CAO number and Statement of Course Choices – check this carefully. • Some students may be called for extra assessments. • Receive Statement of Application Record (Before the end of May)– check details carefully. • Change of Mind facility becomes available – use sparingly and carefully. (May 5th - 1st July) • Leaving Cert. Results are sent to CAO. (14th August) • Places are allocated and offered by post and online.(19th August) • Students accept, reject or defer offered places. • Further rounds of offers are made until all course places are filled.
Change of Mind After 5th May you can register a change of course choices –online, Or Use Change of Mind Form. Print any changes made This facility closes on 1st of July at 5.15pm
Offer of Places • 2 offers may be received: 1 from Level 8 list and 1 from Level 6/7 list. ONLY ONE OFFER MAY BE ACCEPTED • When you are offered one of your course preferences on a list, automatically you will be excluded for consideration from all courses below that YOU MAY NOT MOVE DOWN IN YOUR ORDER OF PREFERENCES • This is why it is so important to fill in form in your Genuine Order of Preference
Offer of places (contd.) By way of example: Let’s say you have 350 points and your course preference on the CAO form is: 1.Physics 2.Business 3.Arts 4. Tourism
Places Allocation • Students should think carefully about not accepting one of these offers, as they may not receive any further offers. • Regardless of whether or not they accept a course in round 1, they will still be offered a higher preference course in subsequent rounds if they become entitled one.
Random Entry • Two or more candidates on the same points • Random number given to each application • Highest random Number gets the place • Shown by an * • For example 370* means not every candidate with 370 points got a place but everyone with 375 would have
Deferral • You are recommended to check with the college in advance about their deferral conditions and arrangements- some courses where deferral will be difficult or impossible. • When offered place, contact admissions office of university IMMEDIATELY – mark deferred entry- must be done at least 2 days before REPLY DATE on offer notice – decision will be made Read the CAO Handbook about this – page 6.
Grants • Online application for grants 2012-2013 is available now at www.studentfinance.ie Or www.grantsonline.ie • Register> Complete Application > Decision will follow • Applications will be accepted up to 31st of August
ACCESS SCHEMES: 1 • DARE – Disability Acess Route to Education • 11 Colleges participating • A quota of places offered to students with disability on a reduced points basis. • Must meet minimum entry requirements • See: www.accesscollege.ie for list of disabilities eligible
ACCESS SCHEMES • HEAR – Higher Education Access Route • For students from socio-economically disadvantaged backgrounds. • Quota of places offered on a reduced points basis. • Must meet minimum entry requirements • Must satisfy 3 of the 6 indicators • See www.accesscollege.ie for further information
DARE and HEAR Schemes • Must apply to CAO by February 1st • Final completion of DARE/HEAR forms due on March 1st – indicate you wish to apply for the scheme • Final date for submission of supporting documentation to arrive in CAO by 1st April • CHECK CAO BOOKLET PAGE 8 AND 9
CAO Timetable • 5th November, 2012 > CAO Online facility opens at 12.00 noon • 20th January, 2013 >Early Bird offer ends • 1stFebruary, 2013 • Closing date for receipt of normal applications • By 15th February, 2013 • Receive Statement of Course Choices • 1st May, 2013 • Closing date for receipt of late applications • Before/By 31st May, 2013 • Receive Statement of Application Record • From 5th May, 2013 • Change of mind facility opens. • 1st July, 2013 • Latest date for receipt of change of mind in CAO. • Late August, 2013 – 19th (expected date) • First round of offers will commence.
Non- CAO Options • Apprenticeships • Defence Forces • Gardaí • Direct to Employment • Post Leaving Certificate Courses • FETAC links scheme
Apprenticeships • Find a suitable employer • Must be approved by Fás • Employer must register apprentice within two weeks of starting • Meet the minimum educational requirements i.e. 5 Passes in Junior Cert.
Further Education Training Awards Council • FETAC Links to Higher Education Institutes • Especially Important for Students who may not make the CAO Points • Can begin with a PLC and end up with a Doctorate • Mature Entry to College (age 23 or over)
Post Leaving Certificate courses (PLCs) • Courses in very high demand in 2010, 2011and 2012. • Apply early to be called for interview in March • Contact each college/ check college websitesto see when they will start accepting your application. • Most PLC courses expect to fill all places in March interviews • Requirements – usually 5 passes in your Leaving Certificate. Please consult prospectus for 2013 entry requirements. • Importance of Interview and some experience of the career area applying for.
PLC courses continued • Remember that PLC courses do not provide an automatic link to Higher Education • But a possible pathway to Higher Education through FETAC Links Scheme • This is competitive and you must excel in your PLC course to proceed further.
Other Alternatives • UCAS • Applying to colleges in UK and Northern Ireland • Closing Date 15th January except for Medicine, Dentistry, Vet, Oxford & Cambridge closing date 15th October • Some require aptitude tests. • Fees are applicable. • Must apply online using UCAS Apply • Personal statement is very important • All 6th Year students who are interested in applying must have come forward to Guidance Counsellor by now.
Institutions of choice 2012 Others (1 Student) = NUIG, Marino Institute of Ed, All Hallows, Inchicore College of Further Ed Ballsbridge, Ballyfermot, Killester
Facts • 60% of employers seek graduates of any discipline • Quality of degree is far more important than the subjects • It is better to excel in a subject not in great demand than to be average in one that is.
DATES OF INTEREST • Monday 12th November – 6th Year PTM • January 20th -CAO online‘EarlyBird’ – €25 • February 1st- CAO Deadline • January 28th – February 8th– Mocks • February 26th – Mock Interviews • June – Leaving Cert. begins • August 14th- Results • August 19th- FirstRound offers
Who to talk to? • Relatives • Past pupils • Admissions/Academic staff of colleges • Guidance Counsellor • Interest Inventories / Guidance interviews • Access to sources of information • Appointments for parents
Useful Resources Internet • Qualifax – www.qualifax.ie Irish courses database • CAO – www.cao.ie Contains links to course websites • Career Directions – www.careerdirections.ie • Careers Portal – www.careersportal.ie • Grants – www.studentfinance.ie • College websites (Addresses in CAO Handbook) • College Prospectuses- 2013 Entry • CAO Handbook 2013 • Newspapers- Irish Times, Independent • Internet
Reminders It is the applicants responsibility to……… • Research thoroughly all the courses for which she is making an application. • Be au fait with all aspects of the application system used (CAO) for these courses i.e. procedures, dates, fees, rules etc
Homework and Study Reminders Contd. • The recommended amount of time spent by a 6th Year student doing homework and study should be: • 3 ½ hours per night six times per week, i.e. 21 hours per week.
The World is your Oyster • Aim high • Match the goal with the necessary work • Never too late
LIFELONG LEARNING The journey is only beginning……..