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The Interviewing Excellence31 Tom Peters/05.28.2005

The Interviewing Excellence31 Tom Peters/05.28.2005.

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The Interviewing Excellence31 Tom Peters/05.28.2005

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  1. The Interviewing Excellence31Tom Peters/05.28.2005

  2. Interviewing Excellence1. INTERVIEWING IS AN “ART” WORTH MASTERING! (Think Christine Amanpour, Mike Wallace.)2. Don’t over-schedule—2 or 3 in-depth interviews are a solid day’s work. (More than that is lunacy and will lead to shallow results.)3. Save, if possible, the “Big” Guy/Gal until last—that is, until you know what the hell you’re doing!4. Find a comfy/“safe”/neutral setting. THIS IS ALL-IMPORTANT! (Worst case: You on the other side of his/her desk.)5. Start with a little bit (LITTLE) of local small talk. But get some tips on the interviewee ahead of time; he may be one of the “brusque ones” who considers any small talk a waste of his Imperial Time.6. DO YOUR DAMN HOMEWORK! (On the interviewee, the subject matter.)7. Concoct a … LONG LIST … of questions. (You’ll use only 10% of it, but that’s okay.)

  3. Interviewing Excellence8. Prepare a … SHORT LIST … of questions you must get answered.9. Begin by briefly reviewing your assignment—why you’re here.10. ALWAYS ASK FOR EXAMPLES! (When she says “Customer Service is in good shape,” you ask for specifics—hard data, recent Customer Service successes (and failures). And: PRECISELY WHO YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH TO GET MORE DETAIL.11. STORIES! STORIES! STORIES! (You are in the “Story Collection” Business.)12. Dress well. DON’T OVERDRESS. (Look like they look, more or less; perhaps a touch more formal—this is a Serious Affair you are engaging in.)13. Assume you’ll never get another chance to talk to this person.14. Be personable, but more or less match the interviewee’s style. (THIS IS HARD WORK!)15. THINK … SMALL! “Please walk me in great detail through the [complaint resolution] process. Here, let’s diagram it.”

  4. Interviewing Excellence16. For God’s sake, get to the Front Line! (The devil is in the details, and the details are to be found on the loading dock at 3a.m.) (YES … 3A.M.)17. Don’t quit until you understand. THE INTERVIEWEE ALWAYS TALKS IN SHORTHAND—using the jargon of the Corporate Culture. You’ve got to crack the code. (THIS IS ABOUT THE HARDEST THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE YOUNG AND UNCERTAIN: Tell yourself you are here to ask “Dumb” Questions—this is not a job interview. Again, think Mike Wallace: “So, did you in fact murder Mrs. Smith?”)18. Ignore generalizations! YOU ARE HERE IN SEARCH OF SPECIFICS!!!19. CONTEXT! “Get” the “corporate culture”—e.g. Shell is not ExxonMobil! Find out (from a set of interviewees) “Core Values” (in theory and in practice).

  5. Interviewing Excellence20. Engage the Interviewee! GET HER TO DO SOME OF THE WORK! E.g., write out her view of the Ten Key Operative Core Values—or some such.20A. ENGAGE! ENGAGE! ENGAGE!21. You must come across as “trustworthy.” YOU ARE A DUMBO HERE TO LEARN—NOT AN FBI AGENT IN DISGUISE. 22. “Take me through yesterday.” Get past the theoretical crap. Give me in excruciating detail an average day: YESTERDAY! (One hour/meeting at a time.)23. “If you’re comfortable, let’s go over your Calendar for the last month, so I can understand the flow of things.” (Remember TP’s Rule #1: YOU = YOUR CALENDAR.)24. DON’T LET YOUR NOTES AGE!! Immediately after the interview set aside some time to do a “stream of consciousness” recap. And to clean up the obscure scrawl on your notes.

  6. Interviewing Excellence25. Ask the interviewee if you can get back to her by phone tomorrow to fill in holes that your tin ear missed. NO MORE THAN TEN MINUTES.26. LEARNING! Tag along with “great interviewers” in your organization. (I made three PBS films with a Director who had been Mike Wallace’s director at 60 Minutes—oh my God, how much I learned—or, rather, how little I learned: He could drag stuff out of people that you couldn’t believe. (Secret: “I’m just a dumb old fart trying to figure out what goes on here. HELP ME. PLEASE.”)27. “Work on” your Level of Dis-satisfaction: BE MAD AS HELL WHEN YOU SPENT 1.5 HOURS ON AN INTERVIEW WITHOUT REVELATIONS!28. No, you’re not FBI—BUT YOU ARE HERE TO FERRET OUT THE NON-OBVIOUS. So: Keep Digging! (Think Woodward & Bernstein.)

  7. Interviewing Excellence29. Repeat: INTERVIEWING IS A CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT “ART.” Study it! Work on it! It’s no different than golf or underwater basket-weaving. The more & harder you work, the better you get. 30. Yes, we need “facts” (e.g., stories), but remember alWays: INTERVIEWS ARE PURE & SIMPLE ABOUT EMOTIONAL INTERACTION!31. Tom Wrap-up Note: FEW THINGS IN LIFE PISS ME OFF MORE THAN GOING THROUGH SOMEONE’S INTERVIEW NOTES AND FINDING A DEARTH OF “SOLID EVIDENCE”—examples, stories, detailed process maps, etc. (I BLOODY HATE Generalizations!)(Think doctor’s office: Come hell & high water they start with weight, blood pressure, pulse.)

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