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IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda

This is the agenda for the IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG teleconference on February 28, 2019. Topics include administrative items, EU items, FCC open meeting, and general discussion items.

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IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda

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  1. IEEE 802.18 RR-TAGTeleconference Agenda • Date: 28 February 19 Authors: Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  2. Call to Order / Administrative Items • Officers for the RR-TAG / IEEE 802.18: • Chair is Jay Holcomb (Itron) • Vice-chair, looking for someone • Secretary, looking for someone • Voters: 41 (9 on EC); Nearly Voters: 3; Aspirant members: 14 • A quorum is met since this meeting was announced more then 45 days ago. • IEEE 802 Required notices: • Affiliation FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • > Be sure to announce you name, affiliation, employer and clients the first time you speak. • Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • Ethics - https://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8.html • IEEE 802 WG Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml • The 4 administration slides, reminder from your WG opening plenary  new 02jan18 • (note: call for essential patents is n/a, as the RR-TAG does not do standards) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  3. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs of different technical approaches that include relative costs of patent licensing terms may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain the primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- For more details, see IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Antitrust and Competition Policy: What You Need to Know at http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/antitrust.pdf

  4. Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings • Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individual basis • Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1) • IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. (subclause 4.2.1 “Establishment”, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) • Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant’s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. • Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 “Chair”, list item x. • By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (and please leave the call or meeting.) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  5. Agenda for teleconference • Discussion items, few more details: • EU Items • General items, ETSI, CEPT, etc. • FCC open meeting, 15 March • Spectrum Horizons • Expanding Broadband to the 900MHz Band • Fellowship Tutorial review • Monday AM2 at the plenary • FCC NPRM 18-295 , 6 GHz • Reply comments due 18 March • General discussion items: • US DoT comment status • ACMA comment status • 5GAA claims their test report incorrect • Call to Order • Attendance server is open • Administrative items • Need a recording secretary, Peter E. • Approve agenda & last minutes • looking for an 802.18 Vice-Chair. • Discussion items • EU Items • FCC open meeting, 15 March • Fellowship Tutorial review • FCC NPRM 18-295 • General Discussion Items • Actions required • Anything new from today • AOB and Adjourn Jay Holcomb (Itron) Agenda

  6. Administrative – Motions and more • RR-TAG is in need of a vice-chair and secretary, is there anyone that can help? ________ • Motion: To approve the agenda as presented on previous slide • Moved by: Peter • Seconded by: James • Discussion? None • Vote: Unanimous consent • Motion: To approve the minutes from the IEEE 802.18 teleconference 21 February 2019 in document: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0024-00-0000-minutes-21feb19-rrtag-teleconference.docx Posted: 22-Feb-2019 08:08:54 ET • Moved by: Jay • Seconded by: James • Discussion? None • Vote: Unanimous consent Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  7. EU items to share -1 • General EU info: <ojeu><HStds> • ETSI – <BRAN>next meeting #102, 18-21 June, Sophia Antipolis , • Meeting #101 just finished with TN 301631 on 6 GHz approved for publication. • Adaptivity discussions continue, how much detail is really needed? • BRAN responded to liaison from IEEE 802.11 about the July meeting. It is BRAN doc (19) 101-037r1. Some detail in the response. Should be in 802.11 private area next week. • ETSI - ERM - <TG-11>next meeting #55, 08-11 Apr, Sophia Antipolis • April #55 cancelled; 2 web meeting setup instead. F2F now 27-28 June - or in July, tbd. • 09 Apr – call on Rx requirements • 11 Apr – call on SRDoc on 2.4 GHz WBDS • These are to work on response to consultants. • ETSI – ERM - <TG-UWB>next meeting #48, 05-07 Mar, Sophia Antipolis • Nothing reported this week, meeting next week. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  8. EU items to share -2 • CEPT – ECC <SE45>next meeting #7, 24-25 Apr, Copenhagen  • Public consultation is in process, its due date confirmed on 01 April • Nothing new this week. • Last week: Coming soon is a contribution to improve the Exec. Summary of ECC Report 302. (Like the FM57 web meeting contribution recently.) • A key is the Exec Summary is not representing all the Exec. Summaries of the different sections by particular uses. • CEPT – ECC <FM57>next meeting #5, 12-13 March, Maisons-Alfort • Nothing new this week. • Last week: The meeting coming up is same time as IEEE Plenary. • Satellite and RLAN was the main topic however most technical folks will be at IEEE meeting, so how this will work out we will see. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  9. FCC Open meeting, 15 March • Spectrum Horizons • The Commission will consider a First Report and Order that would adopt rules to make available 21.2 GHz of spectrum above 95 GHz for unlicensed operations and create a new class of experimental licenses for the 95 GHz to 3 THz spectrum range. (ET Docket No. 18-21; RM-11795) • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0027-00-0000-draft-first-r-o-18-21-spectrum-horizons-95-ghz.pdf • Expanding Broadband to the 900 MHz Band • The Commission will consider a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking that would propose to reconfigure the 900 MHz band to create a broadband segment to facilitate technologies and services for a wide variety of businesses, including critical infrastructure, as well as seek comment on various transition mechanisms to achieve this goal. (WT Docket No. 17-200) • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0028-00-0000-draft-nprm-17-200-expanding-broadband-to-896-935-mhz.pdf • This is for the 896-901/935-940MHz land mobile licenses band today. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  10. Fellowship Tutorial • Plenary - Monday PM2 is the 802.18 Fellowship Tutorial • Would like to review the current draft overall, few points need to be clarified. • And any other topics that could be added? • Yes, should look at updating the GDP country ranking and it ETSI, FCC or other focused. • And the info on the spectrum crunch is now out dated, so will review that more if could we add something else. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  11. FCC NPRM 18-295, 6 GHz • Comments in: • https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=18-295&sort=date_disseminated,DESC • Reply comments due 18 March, Monday after our Plenary. • There are 112 entities, into 88 unique filings, 1500+… pages • Nothing new this week, will move to general discussion items now. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  12. General Discussion Items • U.S. DoT Releases RFC on V2X Communications • Comments: https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OST-2018-0210-0001 • Status of our comments: 1 of 133 on the DoT site. (date is 2/22) • ACMA - Proposed updates to class licensing arrangements supporting 5G and other technology innovations • For more details see IFC 45/2018 Class licensing updates: Supporting 5G and other technology innovations • Status of our comments:  Confirmation from help line we are uploaded, though no comments posted yet. • 5GAA claims their test report is incorrect. • They announced their devices did not utilize receive antenna diversity... • (no mention though the test report was for 10 MHz and they asked for 20 MHz.) • But they say their conclusions are still valid... … … Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  13. Actions Required • Nothing specific at this time. • Info: • Latest Cisco VNI 2018-2022 networking trends, updated 21Feb19. https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/visual-networking-index-vni/white-paper-c11-738429.pdf Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  14. Any Other Business • None Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  15. Adjourn • Next teleconference: 07 Mar 2019 – 15:00 – <15:55 ET • Call in info: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/16/18-16-0038-11-0000-teleconference-call-in-info.pptx(or latest) • Note: If the call-in link doesn’t work send the Chair an email right away. • All changes/cancellations will be sent out to the 802.18 list server. • Adjourn: • Agenda complete, any objection to Adjourn. • None heard, we are Adjourned at 15:53 ET • The next face to face meeting of the 802.18 RR-TAG will be at the IEEE 802 11-15 March 19 the Plenary in the Hyatt Regency Vancouver and Fairmont Hotel Vancouver, Vancouver, BC, Canada • Time slots, Tuesday AM2 and Thursday AM1 • Note: this Plenary has Fellowship attendees; • Monday AM2 is the 802.18 tutorial for them. • Thank You Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  16. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Thank You • Reference, links to EU sites: • Bran: https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=287&SubTB=287 • ERM TG-11: https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=442&SubTB=442 • CEPT SE45: https://cept.org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-se/se-45/client/introduction/ • CEPT FM57: https://cept.org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-fm/fm-57/client/introduction/ • OJEU: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/oj/direct-access.html • HS: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/ Back up and/or previous slides follow

  17. General Discussion Items -4 • Sharing and license-exempt • A study on feasibility and next steps toward a Next Generation Spectrum Management (NGSM). • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1386-00-0wng-ngsm-next-generation-spectrum-management.pptx • 802.11 San Diego WGN proposal on Future of Unlicensed Spectrum • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0155-00-00EC-push-to-bi-directional-spectrum-sharing.pptx • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0060-02-0000-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx • Bi-directional sharing • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0155-00-00EC-push-to-bi-directional-spectrum-sharing.pptx • This came up in the IEEE 802 LeaderCon session in July and the 802.18 chair along with others have an action item to look at this more. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  18. General Discussion Items -4a of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices-1 of 3 • The Commission’s Office of Engineering and Technology (OET) is requesting comment on the report for Phase I of tests performed to evaluate potential sharing solutions between the proposed Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) devices and Dedicated Short Range Communications (DSRC) operations in the 5850-5925 MHz (U-NII-4) frequency band. The attached report provides a detailed summary of the testing methodology, measurements, and observations. • Request for comments: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0140-00-0000-phase-i-testing-of-prototype-u-nii-4-devices.docx • Report: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0141-00-0000-phase-i-testing-of-prototype-u-nii-4-devices-report.pdf • Proceeding: • https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=13-49&sort=date_disseminated,DESC • https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-requests-comment-59-ghz-phase-i-testing-data • Comment Date: 28 November 2018 • EC vote 16nov, or do reply comments. • Reply Comments Date: 13 December 2018 Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  19. General Discussion Items -4b of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices-2 of 3 • As summarized in the report, we found the prototype devices reliably detected DSRC signals. The report includes the results of the evaluation of the Wi-Fi sharing techniques since one of the proposed band sharing methods would require re-channelization of the DSRC spectrum. In brief, the test results show that the prototype U-NII-4 devices were able to detect a co-channel DSRC signal and implement post detection steps as claimed by the submitters. • Knowing history, can we get agreement on points to comment on? • What would they be? • Detect and vacate mentioned above, is not covering if there is any harmful interference. • Mitigation seems to still be open. • DOT will be the judge on safety of transportation. They get the say what is needed. The report is just a testing report, and not on the safety of transportation. • O’Reily’s comment does not consider there is CV2X, C-V2X, …. …. coming along now, that is being discussed elsewhere. • In the end for those on the earlier call, not looking like there is interest for IEEE 802 to comment. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  20. General Discussion Items -4c of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices-3 of 3 • Statement of commissioner Michael O’Rielly on 5.9 GHz phase I testing data • DOC-354831A1.docxDOC-354831A1.pdfDOC-354831A1.txt • While I appreciate release of the 5.9 GHz Phase I testing data, the results are not all that surprising given the simple questions posed. The reality is that the entire debate has gravitated away from the type of sharing regime envisioned in the testing.  Instead, the Commission should move past this and initiate a rulemaking to reallocate at least 45 megahertz of the band, which is completely unused today for automobile safety • Commissioner Rosenworcel on phase I test report of prototype U-N-II-4 devices. • DOC-354830A1.docxDOC-354830A1.pdfDOC-354830A1.txt • “Nearly two years after the deadline for completing a three-phase test plan to determine whether auto safety and Wi-Fi can share the 5.9 GHz band, this agency is releasing the results of its lab testing. These results are long overdue. But we need to do more than just make our work public. We need to start a rulemaking to take a fresh look at this band and its real possibilities.” Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  21. Potential reference document when doing comments • Note: in the 802.19 co-existence <1 GHz meeting it was brought up for IEEE 802 as a whole to put together a document on basic spectrum parameters that would be good for all IEEE 802 standards to co-exist (less interference….) • Actually, need to have this for all IEEE 802 to just work in the spectrum, e.g. BWs needed. Not just coexistence. • Point being that 802.18 can refer to / use when responding to regulators on different consultations, to encourage regulators in general to configure their spectrum to allow all the IEEE 802 standards in a more consistent/friendly way. • For the many in attendance, it was felt many regulators would appreciate at least knowing this. • Additional point to add to the doc, duty cycle is not for the protocol/standard/amendment being discussed, it is a regulation to allow others (and their packet lengths) to have access to the spectrum. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  22. Fellowship Request • Fellowship request on reaching out to all regulators. • Enhancing Collaboration between IEEE 802 and World Regulators on unlicensed spectrum regulations • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-0580-01-coex-enhancing-collaboration-between-ieee-802-and-world-regulators-on-unlicensed-spectrum-regulations.pptx • Thursday: • A start is to keep in touch with the fellowship attendees. • They are welcome to our meetings and calls. • Could something be added to the IEEE newsletter/communication for the regulators, to answer the news letter input? • Can IEEE be more pro-active with some of the other (e.g. regional) regulators? • The challenge is to ID which we can, and being a volunteer / individual organization, the time and money from the volunteers? • Many regulators don’t have IEEE has a point of contact like they do with WFA or other implementing orgs do. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

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