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T. Csörgő 1,2 R. Pasechnik 3 and A. Ster 1 1 Wigner RCP, Budapest, Hungary

ODDERON and SUBSTRUCTURES of PROTON from a model-independent Levy imaging of elastic scattering data. Introduction to Diffraction Lévy Expansion in a Nut-shell : a new imaging method TOTEM p+p @ 7 and 13 T eV p+p @ 23, 30, 45, 53, 62 GeV Comparison of pp and p- antip Odderon

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T. Csörgő 1,2 R. Pasechnik 3 and A. Ster 1 1 Wigner RCP, Budapest, Hungary

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  1. ODDERON and SUBSTRUCTURES of PROTONfrom a model-independentLevyimaging of elasticscatteringdata IntroductiontoDiffraction Lévy Expansion in a Nut-shell: a newimagingmethod TOTEM p+p @ 7and 13 TeV p+p @ 23, 30, 45, 53, 62 GeV Comparison of pp and p-antip Odderon Expecttheunexpected: structures in protons arxiv:1807.02897 , arXiv:1811.08913 + manuscript in preparation T. Csörgő 1,2 R. Pasechnik3 and A. Ster1 1 Wigner RCP, Budapest, Hungary 2 EKE KRC, Gyöngyös, Hungary 3University of Lund, Lund, Sweden

  2. Diffraction: whathave we learned? Volume V of sphericalnuclei ~ A (massnumber) Nuclear „skin-width” is independent of A → Centraldensity of bigsphericalnuclei is independent of A R. Hofstadter, Nobel-lecture(1961) 19

  3. TOTEM pp @ 8 TeV, arxiv:1503.08111 ds/dtnon-exponentialatlow-t 20

  4. TOTEM preliminaryat √s = 13 TeV Growth of B: Universalproperties of Pomeron B(s) nearlyjumps: Opening of an additionalphysicschannel(?) from TOTEM preliminary 2.76 and 13 TeV threshold ≤ 3-4 TeV followedby verysharpgrowth: Change of low-|t| trend at LHC 21

  5. MODEL INDEPENDENT LEVY EXPANSION non-exponentialbehavior (NEB) in a singleparameter a idea: completeset of orthonormalfunctions, put NEB totheweight T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 22

  6. MODEL INDEPENDENT LEVY EXPANSION • Asa 1, LevypolynomialsapproachLaguerrepolynomials. orthonormaltoexp(-t) • T. Csörgő, T. Novák and A. Ster, arXiv:1604.05513 [physics.data-an] T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 23

  7. LEVY EXPANSION, 7 TeV T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 • T. Csörgő, T. Novák and A. Ster • J. Chwastowski, Trento, 2016: • Modelindependent, butphysics = ? arXiv:1604.05513 [physics.data-an] 24

  8. LEVY EXPANSION AT 13 TeV LHC T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897, arXiv:1811.08913

  9. LOOKING FOR ODDERON EFFECTS Odderonprediction: L. Lukaszuk, B. Nicolescu, Lett. NuovoCim. 8, 405 (1973) Odderondifferentialcross-sectionfrom pp and ppbarcollisions, Reggeized Philips-Barger: A. Ster, L. Jenkovszky, T. Cs, arxiv:1501.03860 26

  10. LEVY EXPANSIONFOR ELASTIC PPBAR and PP PP: PROTON+PROTON PPBAR: PROTON+ANTIPROTON T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 27

  11. COMPARISON: (P,P) vs (P,ANTIP) C-ODD EFFECT: ODDERON A C-ODD AND √s DEPENDENT EFFECTS MAY BE SEPARATED EMPHASIS: NEED PP AND PPBAR AT THE SAME √s BUT: THERE IS A SECONDARY CONE ! I. Dremin 28 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897

  12. IMAGING AT ISR AND AT LHC ENERGIES PP: PROTON+PROTON T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 29

  13. LEVY FITS TO LARGE -t: SUBSTRUCTURES Twodifferentsubstructures in protons: At ISR energies, lookslike a dressed q At LHC energies, lookslike a dressed d=(q,q) Firstsuggestedby I. M. Dremin, Universe 4 (2018) no.5, 65 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 30

  14. LEVY FITS TO LARGE -t: SUBSTRUCTURES Twodifferentsubstructures in protons: At ISR energies, lookslike a dressed q At LHC energies, lookslike a dressed d=(q,q) Originally: A. Bialas and A. Bzdak, arxiv:1311.2308 by F. Nemes, T. Cs, M. Csanád 31 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897

  15. Systematicuncertainties A shadow is darkening in the proton atthe LHC energies. Femtoscopy – Episode I: The PhantomMenace The shadowprofileforthesubstructures in the proton arewithinerrors DIFFERENT from 7 to 13 TeVat LHC: thesamesize, butitsshadow is gettingdarker. The shadowprofileforthesubstructures in the proton arewithinerrorsthesamefrom 23 to 62 GeVat ISR: thesameobject is seen, withinerrors. P=(q,d): A. Bialas and A. Bzdak, hep-ph/0612038 F. Nemes et al, arXiv:1505.01415 S. Brodsky, arXiv:1709.0119 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897, arXiv:1811.0891 32

  16. P = (q,d) Fromelasticscattering twokind of sub-structures in p: a larger (diquark-like) and a smaller (quark-like) object. Grey bands: systematicerrors! 33 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897,

  17. P = (q,d) Fromelasticscattering twokind of sub-structures in p: a larger (diquark-like) and a smaller (quark-like) object. Grey bands: systematicerrors! 34 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 + in preparation

  18. Whatabouthollowness? P(b) H H = 0.0085 ± 0.0006 I. Dremin, arXiv:1610.07937also in Universe 4 (2018) no.5, 65 W. Broniowskiet al, arXiv:1806.04756 V. A. Petrov and A. Samokhin, arXiv:1801.038 b (fm) • Alkin et al, arXiv:1807.06471 • Significance: • T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, in preparation 35

  19. Whatabouthollowness? H H = 0.0085 ± 0.0006, significant! A newregimeopensupat LHC Black ring, instead of a blackdisc? b (fm) I. Dremin, arXiv:1610.07937also in Universe 4 (2018) no.5, 65 W. Broniowskiet al, arXiv:1806.04756 V. A. Petrov and A. Samokhin, arXiv:1801.038 • Alkin et al, arXiv:1807.06471 • Significance: • T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, in preparation 36

  20. Thankyouforyourattention! Questions? SUMMARY 37

  21. POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVEs: p = (q,q,q)? B. Kopeliovich, I.K. Potashnikova, B. Povhand E. Predazzi, arXiv:hep-ph/0009008v2 38 Is this p =(q,q,q) picture consistent withdataat LHC? Structures and oscillations in ds/dt, jump in B(s) ?? B. Kopeliovich, I.K. Potashnikova, B. Povh, arXiv:1204.5446

  22. POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVEs: p = (q,q,q)? B. Kopeliovich, I.K. Potashnikova, B. Povhand E. Predazzi, arXiv:hep-ph/0009008v2 Is this p =(q,q,q) picture consistent withdataat LHC? Structures and oscillations in ds/dt, jump in B(s) ?? B(2.76 TeV) overestimatedby 3 s BUT r(13TeV) by 6 s 39 B. Kopeliovich, I.K. Potashnikova, B. Povh, arXiv:1204.5446

  23. POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVEs: p = (q,d)? The unitarizedbialas-Bzdakmmodel, p =(q,d) picture Reasonablygoodpredictionfor √s = 13 TeV, butneedsto be retuned. P =(q,(q,q)) variationgavetoomanyoscillations in ds/dtatlarge –t. From F. Nemes, M. Csanád and T. Cs, arXiv:1505.01415 40

  24. P(b) H H = 0.0085 ± 0.0006 b (fm)

  25. (IM)POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVEs T. Cs, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897

  26. POSSIBLE IMPLICATIONS T. Cs, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897 43

  27. Diffraction: R. Hofstadter, Nobel-prize(1961) e+A: elasticelectron- nucleusscattering Imaging:electricchargedistribution of spherialnuclei 44

  28. p+A p+A Glauber and Matthiae, NPB21 (1970) 135 The distribution of thenucleons (p+n) ~thedistribution of electriccharge (p) in atomicnuclei. 45

  29. LEVY FITS: APPROXIMATE STRUCTURE Sizeof proton is increasing withincreasing √s: Butat LHC energies, theshape of proton changestoo! 46 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897

  30. Shadowimagingin p+pat LHC The BnELeffect. Canitexplain TOTEM data, newtrends of B at LHC? 47

  31. Saturation fromshadowprofiles at 7 TeV, proton Blacker, but notEdgier, and Larger BELBnELeffect arxiv:1311.2308 F. Nemes, T. Cs, M. Csanád apparentsaturation: center of proton ~ black at LHC, upto r ~ 0.7 fm ISR and SppS: R.J. Glauber and J.Velasco Phys. Lett. B147 (1987) 380 b1,b2 fixed see also Lipari and Lusignoli, arXiv:1305.7216 48

  32. Imagingwithshadowprofile Glauber and Velasco, Phys. Lett. B147 (1984) 380 Glauber and Velasco, IFIC preprint, 1996, unpublished cross-check: BSWW and Felst GE 49

  33. COMPARISON : (P,P) vs (P,ANTIP) SHADOW PROFILES: C-ODD AND ENERGY DEPENDENT EFFECTS MAY BE MIXED TOGETHER 50 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897

  34. COMPARISON : (P,P) vs (P,ANTIP) NUCLEAR PHASE in units of C-ODD EFFECT: ODDERON 51 T. Csörgő, R. Pasechnik, A. Ster, arxiv.org:1807.02897

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