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Security and Virtual Organizations Workshop. OSG All Hands Meeting Fermilab March 8, 2010 Mine Altunay maltunay@fnal.gov FNAL . Messages taken from the Identity Management Workshop at Madison.
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Security and Virtual Organizations Workshop OSG All Hands Meeting Fermilab March 8, 2010 Mine Altunay maltunay@fnal.gov FNAL
Messages taken from the Identity Management Workshop at Madison • All VOs (17 responded) very frustrated with the usability of the credentials on users' desktop across web & grid domains. • Certificate lifecycle management: request, retrieve, use, renew, revoke. • Use: import, export, store in browser, email, grid clients • Collaboration =diverse tools = web tools + grid tools • Do not forsake one for the other. • Find a solution that can accommodate both • VOs need a single-sign-on-like environment for all of their collaborative tools. VOs need a unifying access control mechanism for all of their tools. OSG Security 8March10 2
Messages taken from the Identity Management Workshop at Madison • Support for smaller dynamic VOs is a need • light-weight, intuitive (like uname/passwd) access control similar to web-based apps. Shorter time to get credentials and start working on the grid. Currently difficult in the OSG model and technologies we use. • New users are intimidated and inhibited by the infrastructure • The full workshop report is available at https://twiki.grid.iu.edu/bin/view/Security/OsgEsnetWorkshopReport • Actions items are listed • Feel free to add more OSG Security 8March10 3
What Happened since the Workshop • Certificate life-cycle management on the desktop • Analyzing the problem and existing solutions • See Gabriel Ghinita's talk for a discussion • Hard problem; diverse OSes, browsers, and CAs • Hard to integrate certificates with web and other tools • Is this a losing battle, swimming against the current? • Is there an alternative: if we cannot solve the problem, can we get rid of the problem? • Use dominating web authentication mechanisms for web tools; uname/passwd, Shibboleth, OpenID • Derive certificates from web authN mechanisms • What short-lived CAs already do • User certificates only in grid domain • Trade of between usability and security, compromising the security? OSG Security 6Aug09 4
What happened since the Workshop • Support for smaller dynamic VOs is a need • Trying to streamline certificate and VO registry • Simplify certificate request web forms • Automated/instantaneous certificates would help • Would need Short-lived CA to issue • CA need to be backed into an existing user database, like a university registrar or a VO user database • Efforts to better identity vetting at DOEGrids CA • Some improvements, but largely depends on VO Agents' efforts • VO sponsors the identity vetting, so VOs should set time goals for themselves. OSG can implement and enforce these goals OSG Security 8March10 5
What Happened since the Workshop • Time wasted due to CRL outages and expiries • Being watched constantly and relayed a list to IGTF for action • Trying to find an alternative location to host CRLs, isolate sites from individual CA web site problems • VO Risk scenarios • Your turn to talk OSG Security 6Aug09 6