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Ribs 2010- pt 2 VERSION 2 POSITIOINING. TEXT VERSION - PHOTOS HAVE BEEN REMOVED TO MAKE PRESENTATION SMALLER. PA -anterior side BEST SEEN AP -posterior side BEST SEEN. CLAVICLE AP LT CLAVICLE - UPRIGHT AXIAL LT CLAVICLE- UPRIGHT AP RT CLAVICLE - SUPINE
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Ribs 2010- pt 2 VERSION 2POSITIOINING TEXT VERSION - PHOTOS HAVE BEEN REMOVED TO MAKE PRESENTATION SMALLER PA -anterior side BEST SEEN AP -posterior side BEST SEEN
CLAVICLEAP LT CLAVICLE - UPRIGHT AXIAL LT CLAVICLE- UPRIGHT AP RT CLAVICLE - SUPINE AXIAL RT CLAVICLE- SUPINE A/C JOINTSA/C JTS – (BILATERAL) W/O WTS A/C JTS – (BILATERAL) WITH WTS LT - A/C JTS - W/O WTS LT - A/C JTS – WITH WTS SHOULDER(UPRIGHT OR SUPINE) NON- TRAUMA AP RT SHOULDER – INT ROT AP RT SHOULDER – EXT ROT LT SHOULDER – GRASHEY TRAUMA AP RT SHOULDER – NEUTRAL ROT LT SHOULDER – TRANSTHORACIC LAT RT SHOULDER – SCAPULAR Y SCAPULA(UPRIGHT OR SUPINE) AP , LAT – RT SCAPULA RIBS – (UPRIGHT OR SUPINE) UNILATERAL: AP (RT) UPPER & LOWER RIBS PA (RT) UPPER & LOWER RIBS OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) AXILLARY UPPER RIBS OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) AXILLARY LOWER RIBS OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) POSTERIOR UPPER RIBS (articulation to spine) OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) POSTERIOR LOWER RIBS (articulation to spine) BILATERAL: AP BILATERAL UPPER RIBS AP BILATERAL LOWER RIBS PA BILATERAL UPPER RIBS PA BILATERAL LOWER RIBS RPO - BILATERAL UPPER RIBS RPO BILATERAL LOWER RIBS LPO - BILATERAL UPPER RIBS LPO BILATERAL LOWER RIBS STERNUM RAO/LAO Lateral Upright/ Supine / X-table
AP OBLIQUES LPO RPO (May also include PA CHEST for lungs) PA OBLIQUES RAO LAO RIBS (Projections & Positions) • Exam done : UNILATERAL or BILATERAL • AD (above diaphram) & BD – (below diaphram)
BEST SEEN - RIBS • AP - posterior ribs (AD/BD) • PA - anterior ribs (AD/BD) • OBLIQUES • RAO / LPO : • LT axillary ribs + RT post rib art w/spine • LAO / RPO • RT axillary ribs + LT post rib art w/spine
UNIT 3 RT 122TECHNIQUE CONSIDERATION RIBS : UNILATERAL OR BILATERAL SHORT SCALE CONTRAST NEEDED BONY DETAIL • AD – above diaphram • 60 – 70 KVP – INSPIRATION • BD – below diaphram • 70 KVP + 3-4 x more mAs (ABD) • EXPIRATION
Routine: Bilateral RIBS • Must include : BOTH sides (RT & LT) • TOP & Bottom (AD & BD) • AP or PA • OBLIQUES • LPO (RAO) • RPO (LAO) • (May also include PA CHEST for lungs) ↑ kVp for lungs (90-120)vs kVp bony ribs (60-80)
BILAT – AD (upright) 14 x 17 LW CW Centering – same as CXR MSP + T 7
Deep Inspiration Why?
BILAT (BD) 11X14 CW OR 14 x 17 CW Centering – (similar to upper ABD) MSP + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC
BILAT (BD) 11X14 CW OR 14 x 17 CW
BILATERAL RIBS APAD & BD Same pt - routine AD 14 x 17 LW 14 x 17 CW Centering – (similar to upper ABD) MSP + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC
BILAT – OBLIQUES – (AD) RPO LPO CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) or ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up)& T7 (AD) 14x17 (LW or CW)
RT AXILLARY RIBS LT POST ARTICULATION TO SPINE LT AXILLARY RIBS RT POST ARTICULATION TO SPINE RPO LPO
If Taken “AP”Technique Used ? Position? Demonstrates?What determines an adequate rotation?
AP Bilat – OBLIQUE (AD) Position? Demonstrates? CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) or ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up)& T7 (AD) CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) or ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up)& T7 (AD)
PA Bilat – OBLIQUE (AD) Move both arms out of the way This position not tested in lab
RAO (LOOKS THE SAME AS LPO) BILATERAL OBLIQUE - AD
BILATERAL OBLIQUES (BD)RPO LPO CR ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up)& L1 (BD) 14x17 ( CW)
BELOW THE DIAPHRAM LPO RPO Technique needs improvement
Review :BILATERAL – LPOAD & BDwhen positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower) Remember to change the tech ~ same kVp, go up 3 to 4 x in mas
Review BILATERAL – RPOAD & BDwhen positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower)
Routine: Unilateral RIBS Focus is on RT side or LT side Top & Bottom (AD & BD) • AP or PA (area of injury) • 1 or 2 OBLIQUES ex: • RT RIBS • RPO for RT side (AD & BD) • & LPO for RT side (AD & BD)
UNILATERAL – RT RIBS( AP) AD & BD when positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower) 11 X 14 CW 14 x 17 LW CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP & T7 (AD) & L1 (BD)
AP UNILATERAL (LT RIBS) AD BD CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP & T7 (AD) L1 (BD)
UNILATERAL – LT RIBSAP AD BD 14 x 17 cw 14 x 17 LW
OBLIQUE Unilateral RIBS • AP or PA • AP OBLIQUES RT RIBS = RPO for RT side (AD & BD) (“turn pt towards side that hurts”) 3. Additional oblique is • LPO for RT side (AD & BD) • And/or “cone down” with marker
UNILATERAL Ribs DONE FOR ONE SIDE ONLY AP/PA (? Injury on the back or front?) AP OBLIQUE – (ribs elongated) side of problem turn toward the IR = axillary AP (OTHER) OBLIQUE – (ribs foreshortened) side of problem turn away from the IR (see post art to spine and anterior portion of the rib best – they are superimposed) Keep your centering on the correct side of the injury
UNILATERAL (LEFT RIBS) – ADdoing BOTH Obliques for one sideLPO –AXILLARY RPO –LT POST ART “side down” ribs “side up” ribs
CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side down) &~ T7 (AD)“frame with light” top light 1”above shoulder lat side 1” lat to ribsmedial ~ 2 “ lat to msp (side up)bottom ~ 10th rib
Compare to RPO & LPO FOR ONE SIDERPO FOR RT SIDE LPO FOR LT SIDE
UNILATERAL (LEFT RIBS) – BOTH AD & BD LPO –AXILLARY “side down” ribs MSP + T7 Top of light 1” above shoulder Bottom of light ~ 10 rib MSP + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC