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Practice, Payment and Coding Issues 2004. OrWhat is Up with CMS ?. PDAS Section Meeting presentation byPaul A. Raslavicus, MD, MHAJuly 23, 2004. . Objective of this presentation. Pathology payment issuesThe Correct Coding Initiative (CCI)Adverse CMS initiativesPart A and part B issues Coding and pricing of the new technologies Opportunities and threats in pathology practiceOverview of The Big Picture.
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2. Practice, Payment and Coding Issues 2004 Or
What is Up with CMS ? Nothing is up—hardly nothingNothing is up—hardly nothing
3. Nothing is up—all is down
Every year in every way the squeeze gets tighter and tighter
Make sure you do not leave anything on the table
This talk is presented to help you do that Nothing is up—all is down
Every year in every way the squeeze gets tighter and tighter
Make sure you do not leave anything on the table
This talk is presented to help you do that
4. Objective of this presentation Pathology payment issues
The Correct Coding Initiative (CCI)
Adverse CMS initiatives
Part A and part B issues
Coding and pricing of the new technologies
Opportunities and threats in pathology practice
Overview of The Big Picture We will look at the problems facing us from both the micro view—the nitty gritty issues—affecting pathology services one by one, and we will also look at issues from a more macroscopic perpective : what is the longer term outlook for pathology payment and what are the economic and societal constraints that affect the future of our workWe will look at the problems facing us from both the micro view—the nitty gritty issues—affecting pathology services one by one, and we will also look at issues from a more macroscopic perpective : what is the longer term outlook for pathology payment and what are the economic and societal constraints that affect the future of our work
5. The Wheel of Fortune That all these forces are interrelated I tried to show graphically on this slide . Public policy is on the top of this wheel. What are the perceived societal needs and the resources that society places to satisfy those needs determines the pricing for the goods that society (government and other third arites) wishes to pay. Coding rears its ugly head, because—make no mistake—coding is the mechanism that can delay, accelerate, change the direction of money flow very dramatically. These activities can directly affect the scope of practice, the degree of competiition between providers and affect the economic well being of pathologists.
When we hurt—and we have been hurt in many ways through the years—we tend to affect public policy. And our successes or failures in these efforts directly influences coding and pricing, etc. etc. and so wheel of fortune moves on and on. That all these forces are interrelated I tried to show graphically on this slide . Public policy is on the top of this wheel. What are the perceived societal needs and the resources that society places to satisfy those needs determines the pricing for the goods that society (government and other third arites) wishes to pay. Coding rears its ugly head, because—make no mistake—coding is the mechanism that can delay, accelerate, change the direction of money flow very dramatically. These activities can directly affect the scope of practice, the degree of competiition between providers and affect the economic well being of pathologists.
When we hurt—and we have been hurt in many ways through the years—we tend to affect public policy. And our successes or failures in these efforts directly influences coding and pricing, etc. etc. and so wheel of fortune moves on and on.
6. Public Policy Medicare Modernization Act 1.5% physician fee increase
Five year clinical lab fee freeze
Competitive bidding demonstration
Oncology fee increases by legislation
Section 942: procedures for new test pricing
Two year histology granfather extension
One year moratorium on PE recalculation
New part B reassignment rules
MMA to affect the drug industry and to provide a drug benefit, which is talked to cost more than the whole of the Medicare program when it started.
I will not spend significant time on all of these bulleted items but it is worh mentionening some of them, since they all affect the wheel of fortune.
The fee increase is due to the rebasing of the components of the physician fees, work, geographic factors and malpractice costs.
We were saddled with a five year clin lab fee freeze, as a cost of not getting mandated competetive bidding process. If things do not change the clin labs will have had of either steady or downpricing in 19 of the last twenty years. No other component of the industry has had that bad a tratment. In decade from 93-03 per patient expenses for lab are down nearly 10% despite a significant increase in utilization.
Comp bill is out for bidding. The FL initiative.
Of nterest is the unilateral increase in oncology fees as an adjustment ot the RVUs. By legislative fiat oncology is better off. No objection from the rest of the medical community becuause no one was affected by the land grab.
Section 942
TC grandfather—through 2006
Continuing moratorium on recalculation of TC and PE—when it is over in the Jly 2005 rule for 2006 expect a 2% decrease in hospital settings, and somewhat more in Ils
Bill also included are new coverages for CV disease, high risk for diabetes people
New reassignement rules – the most worrisome part of this for pathologists—to be addressed. MMA to affect the drug industry and to provide a drug benefit, which is talked to cost more than the whole of the Medicare program when it started.
I will not spend significant time on all of these bulleted items but it is worh mentionening some of them, since they all affect the wheel of fortune.
The fee increase is due to the rebasing of the components of the physician fees, work, geographic factors and malpractice costs.
We were saddled with a five year clin lab fee freeze, as a cost of not getting mandated competetive bidding process. If things do not change the clin labs will have had of either steady or downpricing in 19 of the last twenty years. No other component of the industry has had that bad a tratment. In decade from 93-03 per patient expenses for lab are down nearly 10% despite a significant increase in utilization.
Comp bill is out for bidding. The FL initiative.
Of nterest is the unilateral increase in oncology fees as an adjustment ot the RVUs. By legislative fiat oncology is better off. No objection from the rest of the medical community becuause no one was affected by the land grab.
Section 942
TC grandfather—through 2006
Continuing moratorium on recalculation of TC and PE—when it is over in the Jly 2005 rule for 2006 expect a 2% decrease in hospital settings, and somewhat more in Ils
Bill also included are new coverages for CV disease, high risk for diabetes people
New reassignement rules – the most worrisome part of this for pathologists—to be addressed.
7. The CCI edits CCI edits involve pairs of CPT codes
Mutually exclusive, or
Codes within codes (components)
CCI edits are applied to services
billed by the same provider
for the same beneficiary
on the same date of service
Indicators
Use –59 Modifier to override edits for mutually exclusive edits
First I want to turn the microscope to a major issue facing pathology, and that is the extraordinary interest in CMS to establish edits between codes that will prohibit payment for one of these codes when both of the services are reported.
CCI—This is a nationally authoried system of denying payment when in the opinion of CMS the services are duplicative.
Either muturally exclusive or component codes.
Examples 1. Albumin and microalbumin
` 2, cholesterol in a lipid panel
Indicator 1 for the first, 0 for second instnace
Modifier: “distinct and independent service” –59
not related to “specimen”
Either different dates of service or different rendering physicians do not meet the criteria for bundling. “
First I want to turn the microscope to a major issue facing pathology, and that is the extraordinary interest in CMS to establish edits between codes that will prohibit payment for one of these codes when both of the services are reported.
CCI—This is a nationally authoried system of denying payment when in the opinion of CMS the services are duplicative.
Either muturally exclusive or component codes.
Examples 1. Albumin and microalbumin
` 2, cholesterol in a lipid panel
Indicator 1 for the first, 0 for second instnace
Modifier: “distinct and independent service” –59
not related to “specimen”
Either different dates of service or different rendering physicians do not meet the criteria for bundling. “
8. National Correct Coding Initiative--CCI CMS Contractor AdminiStar
Over 500 edits in Path and LM
Web site: www.cms.hhs.gov/physicians/cciedits/
All edits are part OPPS for hospitals
Recent focus on physician services and new technologies
“Our mind is made up”
Complaints: fax Neils Rosen,MD (317) 841-4600 Edits are quarterly
140,000 edits within CPT; 500 in Path and Lab
Now focus on anatomic path. Especially in the advanced technology area. Producing significant net revenue decreases—and in a number of instances unnoticed by practice managers.
No meaningful appeal mechanism
Comments are being disreagarded
Neils Rosen, MD, FCAP Medical Director
Edits are quarterly
140,000 edits within CPT; 500 in Path and Lab
Now focus on anatomic path. Especially in the advanced technology area. Producing significant net revenue decreases—and in a number of instances unnoticed by practice managers.
No meaningful appeal mechanism
Comments are being disreagarded
Neils Rosen, MD, FCAP Medical Director
9. CCI edits—clinical labRecent examples 85027/85004: Automated differentials
80061/83721, 82465/83721: Lipids
80074/individual hepatitis antibodies
Clinical pathology consults in microbiology
Denies 88500 with 87269, 87660
Modifier –91 “Modifier -91 should be appended to laboratory procedure(s) or service(s) to indicate a repeat test or procedure on the same day. “
Examples of new clin lab edits in 2003-04
Many of these do make sense. sen85027—hemogram and platelet ct, auto
85004—auto diff
--------------------Lipid panel, LDL chol ;;; Chol +LDL
87269—immunofluorescent id infectious agents,
87660: t. vaginalis by nuclear probe.Examples of new clin lab edits in 2003-04
Many of these do make sense. sen85027—hemogram and platelet ct, auto
85004—auto diff
--------------------Lipid panel, LDL chol ;;; Chol +LDL
87269—immunofluorescent id infectious agents,
87660: t. vaginalis by nuclear probe.
10. Recent CCI edits in physician fee schedule Specimens/Smears
Frozen sections/Smears
Surgical pathology consultations
IHC/flow analysis
IHC/tumor morphometry
ISH/tumor morphometry
ISH/cytogenetic codes (88271-75)
But what really has turned the attention of the path community is the focus on service which are billed under path B. These have a Big fiancial impact!
It will pay to look at your billing database to see the fequency of this activity in the past, to see the financial impact on the bottom line of net revenue.
I will comment on all of these seven edits and how these edits are changing on how we think and how we code about these services.It is these edits that have been the primary cause of the significant changes in coding for these services that are about to be unveiled for 2005.
But what really has turned the attention of the path community is the focus on service which are billed under path B. These have a Big fiancial impact!
It will pay to look at your billing database to see the fequency of this activity in the past, to see the financial impact on the bottom line of net revenue.
I will comment on all of these seven edits and how these edits are changing on how we think and how we code about these services.It is these edits that have been the primary cause of the significant changes in coding for these services that are about to be unveiled for 2005.
11. CCI: Specimens/cytology Excludes cytology (FNA and smears) when billed with surgical pathology (88160/2 and 88173 vs 88304/9) when same diagnosis is rendered on same date
Modifier overrides:
Different provider
Different diagnosis
Different specimen No active pursuit to change
Significant dollars
Must use the modifier even if they are on different specimens, because the systems are not able to pick that up.
Note that there is no edit for cell block which is permitted by convention and CPT
Wordage. No active pursuit to change
Significant dollars
Must use the modifier even if they are on different specimens, because the systems are not able to pick that up.
Note that there is no edit for cell block which is permitted by convention and CPT
Wordage.
12. CCI: Frozen sections/cytology-FNA 88329-32/88160-2 or 88173
Edits on same specimen
Permits use with –59 modifier
CMS challenges full RVU for intraop cytology
CMS challenges use of “intraoperative consultation”
Includes all of cyto plus
Assumption by CMS is that if one uses one technology and does not get to the diagnosis, then does a second procedure—same or other technology—then only the second service counts. Surgery anology.
Modifier can be used—if other attribute was examined. Must document what it was and why second procedure performed. Denies cytopath with OR consult .CMS suggested a new code be developed. Unclear where CAP is. Also denies combo with FNA(88173) but FNA is primary code. Modifier OK if different specimens.
Issue of duplicate pre and post service work is raised..
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Includes all of cyto plus
Assumption by CMS is that if one uses one technology and does not get to the diagnosis, then does a second procedure—same or other technology—then only the second service counts. Surgery anology.
Modifier can be used—if other attribute was examined. Must document what it was and why second procedure performed. Denies cytopath with OR consult .CMS suggested a new code be developed. Unclear where CAP is. Also denies combo with FNA(88173) but FNA is primary code. Modifier OK if different specimens.
Issue of duplicate pre and post service work is raised..
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13. CCI: Surgical pathology consultations Initially edits did not permit additional codes to consultation
Now special studies allowed with modifier
Documentation in the consultant’s report is key Must be sure to document in the consultants’ reportMust be sure to document in the consultants’ report
14. CCI: Flow cytometry 88180 and IHC 88342 CMS Considers services duplicative
May use –59 modifier, but document!
Different antibodies
Challenge to standard practices
Challenge to the unit of service (antibody)
Coding changes for 2005
Separation of TC codes from PC codes Med necessity—Wold, Becker: to get input from APC. Status?
Denies payment for flow when performed with IHC.
Bold move. Directly challenges accepted modes for pathology practice.
Pathology is reeling from the effect of this edit. APC has been asked to develop some criteria for the medical nexessity of performing both of these services.
In fact, CMS challenges the whole concept of pathologist involvement in flow. Aug 15 proposed rulelast year called it “inappropropriate” to report PC. Accused also of inappropriately increasing the number of markers. Suggested that payment of PC per panel of antibodies was more appropriate.
The per antibody payment issue has been in the craw of many third party payer
Excess marker use
Local carrier policies
Guideline development
2005 changes are a separate TC only code per marker, and several PC codes at multiple levels of markers. In addition, those procedure in which only one marker is measure (NK killer cells, B cells) isn no longer on the PFS
But the issue has not ended here. There is an overall challenge of the concept that this service and other to follow are physician services in the first place. I will talk about that in a few moments when I address the global CMS challenges.
Med necessity—Wold, Becker: to get input from APC. Status?
Denies payment for flow when performed with IHC.
Bold move. Directly challenges accepted modes for pathology practice.
Pathology is reeling from the effect of this edit. APC has been asked to develop some criteria for the medical nexessity of performing both of these services.
In fact, CMS challenges the whole concept of pathologist involvement in flow. Aug 15 proposed rulelast year called it “inappropropriate” to report PC. Accused also of inappropriately increasing the number of markers. Suggested that payment of PC per panel of antibodies was more appropriate.
The per antibody payment issue has been in the craw of many third party payer
Excess marker use
Local carrier policies
Guideline development
2005 changes are a separate TC only code per marker, and several PC codes at multiple levels of markers. In addition, those procedure in which only one marker is measure (NK killer cells, B cells) isn no longer on the PFS
But the issue has not ended here. There is an overall challenge of the concept that this service and other to follow are physician services in the first place. I will talk about that in a few moments when I address the global CMS challenges.
15. CCI: IHC/Tumor Morphometry 88342/88358
Denies payment for tumor morphometry by Chromavision™
Result=2004 new code 88361
Result= two codes for 2005
Pricing by PEAC/RUC underway The articulated basis for this was the CMA assertion that the work value for 88358(RVU) was too high for what was being done with Chromavision.
Response to this assault was to develop a new code for 88361 for 2004. tumor ICH, quan or semi quan, each antibody.
But CMS has indicated that they were still going to deny the automated computerized analysis in this single code.
So, for 2005 codes= automated and non automated analysis==have been approved Pricing of the professional aspects of this code based on the amount of physician work is being evaluated and will be undergoing the RUC process. The articulated basis for this was the CMA assertion that the work value for 88358(RVU) was too high for what was being done with Chromavision.
Response to this assault was to develop a new code for 88361 for 2004. tumor ICH, quan or semi quan, each antibody.
But CMS has indicated that they were still going to deny the automated computerized analysis in this single code.
So, for 2005 codes= automated and non automated analysis==have been approved Pricing of the professional aspects of this code based on the amount of physician work is being evaluated and will be undergoing the RUC process.
16. ISH/Tumor morphometry Disallows tumor morphometry with ISH (88365/88358)
Coding changes underway for 2005
Two codes: for manual and computer assisted techniques ISH morphometry
Practice expenses submission to PEAC/RUC
Work evaluation submission—failed, re-do necessary
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17. CCI: FISH/cytogenetics 88365 vs. 88271-75
Issues raised
Two ways to report same service
CMS: The sum is lesser than the parts
Turf and payment issues
Revised 88365 for 2005 CMS regards that 88365 includes all components and all probes.
Mol.cyto is each probe and pays more but inclusive service being cheaper that is what CMS goes with.
Issues raised
Tissue vs. cells—tissue issue
Pathologist vs. cytogenecist
Better pay in the cytogenetic codes
88365 practices expenses did not include the cost of the probe and CMS was claimng that all probes were included--
Probes, one vs. many
Likely outcome:
Revised 88365 removing tissue, adding per probe CMS regards that 88365 includes all components and all probes.
Mol.cyto is each probe and pays more but inclusive service being cheaper that is what CMS goes with.
Issues raised
Tissue vs. cells—tissue issue
Pathologist vs. cytogenecist
Better pay in the cytogenetic codes
88365 practices expenses did not include the cost of the probe and CMS was claimng that all probes were included--
Probes, one vs. many
Likely outcome:
Revised 88365 removing tissue, adding per probe
18. Challenge of coding for genetic disorders Currently:
In situ hybridization codes
Molecular cytogenetics codes
Molecular microbiology
Molecular diagnostics generic codes
Multiplex procedures (83901)definition?
The future
Codes for microarrays
Codes for specific genetic disorders
Challenges in coding
Generic codes priced either at 5.60 or ‘amplification at 23. Interpret at 5.60.
Nucleic Acid Extraction $ 5.60 83890 or 83891
Nucleic Acid Probe $ 5.60 83896
Amplification $23.42 83898 x primer pair
Fluorescent Detection No Code
Interpretation & Report $ 5.60 83912
83901????
Challenges in coding
Generic codes priced either at 5.60 or ‘amplification at 23. Interpret at 5.60.
Nucleic Acid Extraction $ 5.60 83890 or 83891
Nucleic Acid Probe $ 5.60 83896
Amplification $23.42 83898 x primer pair
Fluorescent Detection No Code
Interpretation & Report $ 5.60 83912
83901????
19. Genetic Test Coding Modifiers Solid tumor markers
Lymphoid/hematopoetic neoplasms
Non neoplastic hematology/coagulation
Histocompatability
Neurologic non neoplastic
Muscular non neoplastic
Metabolic
Dysmorphology diseases Alpha numeric modifiers are specific for the gene mutation in all of these categoriesAlpha numeric modifiers are specific for the gene mutation in all of these categories
20. Valuing costs and workThe RUC challenge
The politics of RUC
Costs—a microcosting approach
Submitted to PEAC/RUC then to CMS
Adjusted through a top down process
Work—expert panel or
Survey process of 30+pathologists
Time for the service (intra, pre and post)
Ranking of work effort (intensity)
NOW we will move away from this microcosm of CCI and begi looking at some more global challenges in codification of our work.
The first of these is the challenge of the Relative Value Update Committee-
What is Ruc. 29 seats, 3 rotating seats, 20 M annual cap
Applies to all services with a professional component
Both costs and physician work are submitted for approval
Costs-direct costs only
Supplies, labor, dedicated equipment—direct costs
A microcosting detailed process
Work survey has really had some problems
not enough people located to be surveyed
evaluations all over the place
diffficulty with reference services
Results have been poor
Improving through recrutiment, education, early surveying, hand holding, consultant
NOW we will move away from this microcosm of CCI and begi looking at some more global challenges in codification of our work.
The first of these is the challenge of the Relative Value Update Committee-
What is Ruc. 29 seats, 3 rotating seats, 20 M annual cap
Applies to all services with a professional component
Both costs and physician work are submitted for approval
Costs-direct costs only
Supplies, labor, dedicated equipment—direct costs
A microcosting detailed process
Work survey has really had some problems
not enough people located to be surveyed
evaluations all over the place
diffficulty with reference services
Results have been poor
Improving through recrutiment, education, early surveying, hand holding, consultant
21. The RUC ChallengeImproving the Process Survey of practice costs
Data on “typical” run size, failure rate, etc.
Survey of professional work
Education by experts
Understanding the system
Custom reference services
Role of department chair
Participation of academia is critical! Improving how data is gathered
Supposed to be typical
Costs--False starts, failed QC, out of limits etc
Size of run.
Work—bring back those who have had original experience with the RBRVS
Proving education —knowing relative worth without coaxing
understading of the process )intra, pre and post components in a global fshion)—all components of work
Involvement of the academic community is critical in the evaluation of physician work
CAP is looking for additonal people to survey—especially for the automated services in tumor morphometry
Improving how data is gathered
Supposed to be typical
Costs--False starts, failed QC, out of limits etc
Size of run.
Work—bring back those who have had original experience with the RBRVS
Proving education —knowing relative worth without coaxing
understading of the process )intra, pre and post components in a global fshion)—all components of work
Involvement of the academic community is critical in the evaluation of physician work
CAP is looking for additonal people to survey—especially for the automated services in tumor morphometry
22. CMS challenges The unit of service
The same payment per unit of service
The valuation of work (duplication of pre or post service work)
Computer assisted image analysis
Practice expenses moratorium expires 2005
Global –PC=TC proposal
Global –PC=TC proposal
23. This month’s news:CMS moves against pathology Potential for transfer of physician services to the CLFS--
Flow cytometry
Tumor morphometry (manual and automated)
Affected codes:
New five flow codes
Revised ISH code
New two morphometric analysis codes ISH
Public hearing July 26
Call in 877-357-7851 #8402656
What this means
that CMS would take control of pricing: gap filling/cross walking
that the practice may loose part B payment and try to capture it through part A component
www.cms.hhs.gov/events/event.asp?id=50
How did we get there
I know that CMS has not been impressed by CAP performance
But it may have more to do with the misunderstanding by other professionals, primarily by doctoral scientists that there is no win in moving to CLFS
What this means
that CMS would take control of pricing: gap filling/cross walking
that the practice may loose part B payment and try to capture it through part A component
www.cms.hhs.gov/events/event.asp?id=50
How did we get there
I know that CMS has not been impressed by CAP performance
But it may have more to do with the misunderstanding by other professionals, primarily by doctoral scientists that there is no win in moving to CLFS
24. Defeat the CMS proposal
Be aggressive in the five year review
Academic surgical pathology consultations
Resist CCI attempts to redefine services
Continue to codify new services
New concepts in surgical pathology practice
Consultation ($$) vs. second opinion (QA)
Appropriately code procedures
Medicare approved screening tests
Keep the specialty and our labs intact
Where is the $? Sug path consultations—underpaid. By the accession. Access to experts is by cash only. Appears to be legitimate. The Medicare reimbursement and limiting charge limitations do not extend, and have not been extended, to subcontractors of the entity that initially obtained the specimen -- or to any other entity that performs services as a subcontractor to the physician responsible for a patient. Rather, these limitations apply to the person who performs the initial service for the patient and who bills the end party (i.e. patient, third party payor, relative) for the service.
Microarray: FDA clearance around the cornerMicroarrays
Multiplex reactions
CGH
By function, or by marker?
Initial formulation in groups of ten or 100s of markers
Sug path consultations—underpaid. By the accession. Access to experts is by cash only. Appears to be legitimate. The Medicare reimbursement and limiting charge limitations do not extend, and have not been extended, to subcontractors of the entity that initially obtained the specimen -- or to any other entity that performs services as a subcontractor to the physician responsible for a patient. Rather, these limitations apply to the person who performs the initial service for the patient and who bills the end party (i.e. patient, third party payor, relative) for the service.
Microarray: FDA clearance around the cornerMicroarrays
Multiplex reactions
CGH
By function, or by marker?
Initial formulation in groups of ten or 100s of markers
25. Challenges in the Scope of Practice
CMS initiatives***
Weakening of part A and professional component
Pharmacists
Pathologist’s assistants
Laboratory scientists
Our clinical colleagues Not only a challenge from new technology.
Part A weakening from new OIG directives about no or token payment Office of Inspector General (OIG), in its June 8 Draft Supplemental Compliance Program Guidance for Hospitals, suggested that, "in an appropriate context," a hospital would not violate anti-kickback laws by failing to compensate a pathologist for the fair market value of administrative or clinical services provided to the hospital.
This a step in the wrong direction. Indeed, the CAP believes the guidance language must be strengthened to clearly state: "Token or no payment for Part A supervision and management services in exchange for the ability to bill Part B services, violates the anti-kickback statute."
Challenge comes from many corners—from non ohysician health professionals, from other physicians and from ourselves.
Pharms—ordering and performing tests
NJ—as passed only waived tests on Md Standing order for certain diseases---CA, PA, RI similar
PAs= not confrontational: anesthesia radiology examples
must be part of the team
as part of the team must eat from the same food supply
as salaried by hospital presents an imminent danger
Most recent Oig DRAFT COMpliance document states that"Whether a particular arrangement with hospital-based physicians runs afoul of the anti-kickback statute," the OIG goes on to say, "would depend on the specific facts and circumstances, including the intent of the parties. That’s a big change from recent wording token or no payment for Part A supervision and management services" may violate federal anti-kickback statutes.
Loss in Blue shield Florida law suit
Aetna prof component only for medicare recognized –26 services
Physician can run a histology lab without CLIA license
The POD lab purveyors
Physician can then bill for the TC and the PC
Consults—is there something wrong with the first pathologist
sec ops is an administrative vehicle for correction of error or quality control
inhibition of slides prepared elsewhere in code 88321—wish had foresight to delete
Not only a challenge from new technology.
Part A weakening from new OIG directives about no or token payment Office of Inspector General (OIG), in its June 8 Draft Supplemental Compliance Program Guidance for Hospitals, suggested that, "in an appropriate context," a hospital would not violate anti-kickback laws by failing to compensate a pathologist for the fair market value of administrative or clinical services provided to the hospital.
This a step in the wrong direction. Indeed, the CAP believes the guidance language must be strengthened to clearly state: "Token or no payment for Part A supervision and management services in exchange for the ability to bill Part B services, violates the anti-kickback statute."
Challenge comes from many corners—from non ohysician health professionals, from other physicians and from ourselves.
Pharms—ordering and performing tests
NJ—as passed only waived tests on Md Standing order for certain diseases---CA, PA, RI similar
PAs= not confrontational: anesthesia radiology examples
must be part of the team
as part of the team must eat from the same food supply
as salaried by hospital presents an imminent danger
Most recent Oig DRAFT COMpliance document states that"Whether a particular arrangement with hospital-based physicians runs afoul of the anti-kickback statute," the OIG goes on to say, "would depend on the specific facts and circumstances, including the intent of the parties. That’s a big change from recent wording token or no payment for Part A supervision and management services" may violate federal anti-kickback statutes.
Loss in Blue shield Florida law suit
Aetna prof component only for medicare recognized –26 services
Physician can run a histology lab without CLIA license
The POD lab purveyors
Physician can then bill for the TC and the PC
Consults—is there something wrong with the first pathologist
sec ops is an administrative vehicle for correction of error or quality control
inhibition of slides prepared elsewhere in code 88321—wish had foresight to delete
26. Clinician survival tool #1
Client billing for AP
CEJA: exploits patients
Stark law and Medicare anti kickback
State fee splitting provisions
Legislative Remedies
Direct billing—LA, NJ, RI, SC,
Anti markup—CA, NV, MI, OR
Full disclosure—AZ, CT, MD, ME, PA, TN,VT
Fixes are in the states, federal fix is being explored
Fixes are in the states, federal fix is being explored
27. Clinician survival tool #2 The POD lab phenomenon
Purchased TC can not be marked up
If TC is performed, PC can be marked up
Histology not a CLIA service
New claim reassignment rules for physician services
Need not be on premises (“in office’)
Contractor in same carrier region
Joint and several liability for claims
Especailly for medicare pts.
Twenty years: cannot purchase both TC and PC and bill.
In office exemption: Purchase TC and in office PC.
TC-must be reported separately and cannot be marked up if purchased
Pod—clinicians enter into contracts with outside managers who set up turn key labs to which the docs send their path specimens
Pods try to get past the Stark rules about referrals to labs in which physician has a financial interet
Lab is managed by the outside firm which supplies the histo techs and the pathologist. Labs are set up as separate pods within the same space with each pod serving one practice.
Talked about at national meetings and active solicitation going on in multiple big city markets
Reassignment rule has broad implications to the relationship of pathologists to clinicians., and how industry relates to pathologists.
The prohibition on reassinement rules stes that usually only the perfroming physian can bill and be paid , --a doc cannot reassign his right to receive payment to others. . Numerous exceptins. New exception “an entity may bill for a phsycian service that it acquired pursuant to a contract with an indepenent contractr, regardless where the service was provided. . Both TC and PC could be purchased. Especailly for medicare pts.
Twenty years: cannot purchase both TC and PC and bill.
In office exemption: Purchase TC and in office PC.
TC-must be reported separately and cannot be marked up if purchased
Pod—clinicians enter into contracts with outside managers who set up turn key labs to which the docs send their path specimens
Pods try to get past the Stark rules about referrals to labs in which physician has a financial interet
Lab is managed by the outside firm which supplies the histo techs and the pathologist. Labs are set up as separate pods within the same space with each pod serving one practice.
Talked about at national meetings and active solicitation going on in multiple big city markets
Reassignment rule has broad implications to the relationship of pathologists to clinicians., and how industry relates to pathologists.
The prohibition on reassinement rules stes that usually only the perfroming physian can bill and be paid , --a doc cannot reassign his right to receive payment to others. . Numerous exceptins. New exception “an entity may bill for a phsycian service that it acquired pursuant to a contract with an indepenent contractr, regardless where the service was provided. . Both TC and PC could be purchased.
28. The Macro View Economics is the principal driver, value is second
Decreasing payment per unit of work
Consolidation and regionalization for productivity gain and market clout
The stars will shine, the cows will be butchered
Be or be-ware the niche player
Name branded pathology
Stick close to the patient and his physician
Embrace new tech, new paths
Known facts, Whither pathology?
Pathology in the Crossroads
Pathology in the Crosshairs---G2 reportsKnown facts, Whither pathology?
Pathology in the Crossroads
Pathology in the Crosshairs---G2 reports