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TGbe September 2019 Meeting Agenda. Authors:. Date: 2019-08-06. IEEE 802.11 TGbe: Enhancements for Extremely High Throughput (EHT) WLAN Task Group. Hanoi, Vietnam September 16-20, 2019 Chair: Alfred Asterjadhi (Qualcomm Inc.) Vice Chair: Laurent Cariou (Intel)
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TGbe September 2019 Meeting Agenda Authors: • Date: 2019-08-06 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
IEEE 802.11 TGbe: Enhancements for Extremely High Throughput (EHT) WLAN Task Group Hanoi, Vietnam September 16-20, 2019 Chair: Alfred Asterjadhi (Qualcomm Inc.) Vice Chair: Laurent Cariou (Intel) Vice Chair: Matthew Fischer (Broadcom) Secretary: Dennis Sundman (Ericsson) Technical Editor: Edward Au (Huawei) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Meeting Protocol • Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Attendance • https://imat.ieee.org/my-site/home • Register • Indicate attendance Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Attendance, Voting & Document Status • Make sure your badges are correct • If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising • Upload submission: http://mentor.ieee.org in “TGbe” group • Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area • See Jon Rosdahl – jrosdahl@ieee.org • Cell Phones Silent or Off Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Patent Policy • Following 5 slides Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Participants have a duty to inform the IEEE • Participants shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of each holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents • Participants should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is encouraged Slide #1 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Ways to inform IEEE • Cause an LOA to be submitted to the IEEE-SA (patcom@ieee.org); or • Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible; or • Speak up now and respond to this Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance, please respond at this time by providing relevant information to the WG Chair Slide #2 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Other guidelines for IEEE WG meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs of different technical approaches that include relative costs of patent licensing terms March be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain the primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- For more details, see IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Antitrust and Competition Policy: What You Need to Know at http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/antitrust.pdf Slide #3 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Patent-related information The patent policy and the procedures used to execute that policy are documented in the: • IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws(http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6) • IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual(http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sect6.html#6.3) Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/materials.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org Slide #4 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings • All participation in IEEE 802 Working Group meetings is on an individual basis • • Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdfsection 5.2.1) • • IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. (subclause 4.2.1 “Establishment”, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) • Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant’s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. • Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 “Chair”, list item x. • By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. • (Latest revision of IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures: http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml and Participation slide: https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/16/ec-16-0180-03-00EC-ieee-802-participation-slide.ppt ) Slide #5 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda Items for the Week • Call to order • IEEE-SA policies and IPR policies • Summary from July 2019 meeting and conf calls • Approve TGbe minutes from July meeting • Ad-hoc(s) creation and ad-hoc(s) chairs election • Presentation of submissions • Goals for November 2019 • Teleconference Plan • Any other business Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
TGbe Agenda • Wednesday PM2 (16:00-18:00) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess • Thursday AM2 (10:30-12:30) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Final call for ad-hoc chairs • Presentation of submissions • Recess • Thursday PM2 (16:00-18:00) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Ad-hoc chair(s) elections • Presentation of submissions • Teleconference Plan • Goals for November 2019 • Any other business • Adjourn • Monday PM1 (13:30:00-15:30) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Set and approve agenda • Summary from July 2019 meeting and conf calls • Approve TG minutes • Ad-hoc(s) creation & call for ad-hoc chair(s) • Presentation of submissions • Recess • Monday EVE (19:30-21:30) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess • Tuesday PM1 (13:30-15:30) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess • Tuesday EVE (19:30-21:30) • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc. TGbe Schedule
Summary from Conf Calls • Covered 39 submissions from the following topics • Low Latency (4 submissions) • MAC (3 submissions) • Multi AP (10 submissions) • PHY (3 submissions) • Multi Link (15 submissions) • HARQ (4 submissions) • Remaining 10 submissions from the following topics • Multi Link (2 submissions) • HARQ (8 submissions) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
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Order of Topics • HARQ • PHY • Multi-Link • Low Latency • Multi-AP • MIMO • MAC Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda for Monday PM1 • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Set and approve agenda • Summary from July 2019 meeting and conf calls • Approve TG minutes • Ad-hoc(s) creation & call for ad-hoc chair(s) • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Summary from July 2019 meeting • Approved the following TG documents • TGbe channel model document (19/719r1) • TGbe Functional Requirements (19/722r1) • Specification Framework for TGbe (19/1262r2) • Discussed 22 technical submissions covering a wide range of topics • Multi-AP coordination, PHY, multi-link operation, HARQ, and MIMO • Held a joint session with IEEE802.1/TSN • Intro to IEEE802.1 TSN, part of the picture for TSN+Wireless, • TSN for .11 with potential extensions, and improving WLAN reliability Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Approve TG Minutes • Move to approve TGbe minutes of meetings and teleconferences from July 2019 meeting to today: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/19/11-19-1356-00-00be-meeting-minutes-july-2019.docx • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/19/11-19-1401-08-00be-telephone-conference-meeting-minutes-august-and-september-2019.docx • Move: Dennis Sundman Second: Srinivas Kandala • Discussion: None. • Result: Approved with unanimous consent. Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Proposed TG Structure TGbe Chair • Determine the number of ad-hoc groups • At least two ad-hoc groups (MAC and PHY)? Any other ad-hoc group? • Determine how many chairs for each ad-hoc group • At least one chair is needed for each ad-hoc group • Call for chairs for each ad-hoc group • Elections to be held in a subsequent session • Submission: • 1623r0 Proposal for Structure of ad-hoc Groups in 802.11be (Osama Aboul-Magd) – 5 mins 2nd Vice Chair 1st Vice Chair Secretary Editor Ad-Hoc N Chair(s) Ad-Hoc 1 Chair(s) Decided: TG Members Confirmed: TG Majority … Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Straw Poll 1 • How many ad-hoc groups do you prefer? • Two Ad-hoc groups (67) • Three Ad-hoc groups (9) • Four Ad-hoc groups (53) • Five Ad-hoc groups (12) • None (1) • Abstain (2) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Straw Poll 2 • How many ad-hoc chair(s) do you prefer? • One ad-hoc chair (5) • Two ad-hoc chairs (65) • Three ad-hoc chairs (50) • Abstain (5) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Ad-Hoc Groups Motion • Move to create 2 ad-hoc groups for TGbe • One Ad-hoc group for MAC • One Ad-hoc group for PHY • NOTE-Each ad-hoc group has 2 ad-hoc chairs • Move: Po-Kai Huang Second: Jianhan Liu • Discussion: None. • Result: 69 Y, 3 N, 20 A • MOTION PASSES. Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Ad-Hoc Chairs Election Process Candidate 1 Candidate 2, … Candidate M 1st Ad-Hoc Chair Election • How many Ad-Hoc Chairs? • TBD • Proposed Election Process (if K < M) • First Voting Round – Members select K out of M candidates • 1st Ad-Hoc Chair: Candidate with highest number of votes • Kth Ad-Hoc Chair: Candidate with Kth highest number of votes • Draw Round (optional) – If >1 candidates get same # of votes • Members select one out of the X candidates • Final Round – Approve selected Ad-Hoc Chairs with TG majority Kth Ad-Hoc Chair Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Call for Ad-Hoc chairs • Candidates for MAC ad-hoc chairs • Yongho Seok • Jeongki Kim • Liwen Chu • Srinivas Kandala • Candidates for PHY ad-hoc chairs • Bo Sun • Sigurd Schelstraete • Kate Meng • Tianyu Wu Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (1) • 1080r0-HARQ Complexity (Steve Shellhammer) [25 mins] • 1098r1-Acknowledgement for HARQ transmission (Ming Gan) [15 mins] • 1132r2-Channel coding issue in HARQ (Jinmin Kim) [20 mins] • 1133r0-Some results on HARQ perf. in dense deployments (Leif Wilhelmsson) • 1146r0-HARQ punctured CC performance evaluation (Yanyi DING) • 1172r1-Discussion on HARQ (Wook Bong Lee) • 1196r0-Combined HARQ and Rate Adaptation (Sebastian Max) • 1459r0-HARQ applicable A-MPDU (Lei Huang) • 1553r0-Consideration on HARQ feedback (Taewon Song) • 1578r0-An HARQ Transmission Scheme for 11be (Shimi Shilo) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (2) • 1589r0-What should be the HARQ unit and why? (Imran Latif) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda for Monday EVE • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (1) • 1099r0-Preamble structure in 11be (Ross Jian Yu) (2 SPs) [10 mins] • 1126r0-Enhanced Resource Unit alloc. schemes for 11be (Jianhan Liu) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 1190r1-Improved Preamble Puncturing in 11be (O. Redlich) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 1340r0-Revisit Tone Plan (Brian Hart) • 1486r0-Further discussion for 11be preamble (Dongguk Lim) [25 mins] • 1487r0-11be tone plan (Ross Jian Yu) • 1488r0-Auto-detection in 11be (Ross Jian Yu) [25 mins] • 1492r0-Phase Rotation for 320MHz (Eunsung Park) • 1493r0-Non-OFDMA Tone Plan for 320MHz (Eunsung Park) • 1511r0-Preamble autodetection for 11be (Lei Huang) [20 mins] Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (2) • 1516r0-11be Preamble Structure (Xiaogang Chen) • 1519r0-Forward Compatibility for WiFi Preamble Design (Sameer Vermani) • 1521r0-Further Thoughts on 11be Tone Plan (Bin Tian) • 1540r0-EHT Preamble Design (Rui Cao) • 1556r0-Lean PHY for EHT (Miguel Lopez) • 1569r0-Preamble Design Consideration for 11be follow-up (Li-Hsiang Sun) • 1579r0-Adapting the 11be channel model to modern (Doppler) use cases (Shimi Shilo) • 1606r0-Preamble Puncturing and SIG-B (Signaling John Son) • 1497r0-Autodetection in 11be (Sichan Noh) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda for Tuesday PM1 • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (1) • 822r0-Extremely Efficient Multi-band Operation (Po-Kai Huang) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 821r3-Multiple band discussion (Liwen Chu) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 773r2-Multi-link Operation Framework (Po-Kai Huang) (2 SPs) [10 mins] • 823r1-Multi-Link Aggregation (Abhishek Patil) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 979r0-Multi-link Operation Follow-up ( Yongho Seok) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 1082r1-Multi-link Operation: Dynamic TID Transfer (Abhishek Patil) (1 SP) [10 mins] • 1095r1-Multi-link requirement discussion (Yonggang Fang) (3 SPs) [10 mins] • 1144r1-Channel Access for Multi-link Operation (Insun Jang) (3 SPs) [10 mins] • 1116r1-Channel access in multi-band operation (Yunbo Li) (4 SPs) [10 mins] • 1291r2-Some aspects of multi link op performance (Dmitry Akhmetov) [25 mins] Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (2) • 1358r0-Multi-link Operation Management (Yongho Seok) • 1405r0-Multi-Link Operation Channel Access Discussion (Sharan Naribole) • 1505r0-Multi-link Aggregation Considerations (Sharan Naribole) • 1509r0-Discussion on Multi-link Setup (Insun Jang) • 1231r2-Multiband and Multichannel Operation in 11be (Sai Shankar)–Postpone From Conf Call • 1510r0-EHT Power saving considering multi-link (Jeongki Kim) • 1512r0-Multi-link acknowledgment (Rojan Chitrakar) • 1525r0-Multi-Link Association (Abhishek Patil) • 1526r0-Multi-Link Power-save (Abhishek Patil) • 1528r0-Multi-Link Operation - Link Management (Abhishek Patil) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (3) • 1532r0-Discussion on Multi-link Acknowledgement (Ryuichi Hirata) • 1536r0-Power Consideration for Multi-link Transmissions (Rojan Chitrakar) • 1541r0-Performance aspects of multi link op with constraints (Dmitry Akhmetov) • 1542r0-Multi-link broadcast addressed frame reception (Po-Kai Huang) • 1544r0-Multi-link power save operation (Minyoung Park) • 1546r0-Legacy Performance Impact on Multi-link Operation (Yongho Seok) • 1548r0-Channel access design for synchronized multi-links (Yunbo Li) • 1549r0-Multi-link association (Yunbo Li) • 1159r0-Multilink operation capability announcement (Liwen Chu)–Postponed From Conf Call • 1568r0-Further Discussion on Multi-link Operations (Xiaofei WANG) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (4) • 1583r0-Multi-Link BSS Operations (Jarkko Kneckt) • 1591r0-BA setup for multi-link Aggregation Jason (Yuchen Guo) • 1613r0-Multi-link TXOP Sharing for Delay Reduction (Yongsu Gwak) • 1614r0-Multi-link setup procedure (Hanseul Hong) • 1617r0-Multi-link power save (Liwen Chu) • 1555r0-Simultaneous Tx/Rx Capability indication for multi-link operation (Yifan Zhou) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda for Tuesday EVE • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions • 1523r0-Performance evaluation of deterministic service for EHT (Suhwook Kim) [25 mins] • 1524r0-Latency enhancement for EHT (Suhwook Kim) [25 mins] • 1538r0-Use of Uplink Persistent Allocation for RTA (Xin Zuo) [25 mins] • 1133r0-Some results on HARQ perf. in dense deployments (Leif Wilhelmsson) [25 mins] • 1146r0-HARQ punctured CC performance evaluation (Yanyi DING) [25 mins] • 1196r0 Combined HARQ and Rate Adaptation (Sebastian Max) [15 mins] • 1622r0-Use Auto Repetition in low latency queue (Tony Zeng) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda for Wednesday PM2 • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (1) • 1129r2-Consideration on Multi-AP Coordination (Nan Li) [10 min] • 1143r1-Efficient Operation for Multi-AP Coordination (Sungjin Park) [10 min] • 1451r0-Virtual BSS for Multi-AP Coordination Follow-Up (Sharan Naribole) [25 min] • 1533r0-Consideration on Multi-AP Ack Protocol (Kosuke Aio) [25 min] • 1534r0-Coordinated Spatial Reuse Performance Analysis (Kosuke Aio) [25 min] • 1535r0-Sounding for AP Collaboration (Junghoon Suh) [25 min] • 1554r1-Data Sharing for Multi-AP Coordination (Sungjin Park) • 1573r0-One Channel Info. Feedback Method for Multi-AP Coordination (Dandan Liang) • 1588r0-Multi-AP backhaul analysis (Sigurd Schelstraete) • 1592r0-Simulation Results for coordinated OFDMA in multi-AP operation (Jason Yuchen Guo) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions (2) • 1593r0-Joint Sounding for Multi-AP Systems (Jianhan Liu) • 1594r0-Coordinated Beamforming/Null Steering Protocol in 802.11be (David Lopez-Perez) • 1595r0-Consideration on Joint transmission (Lily YunpingLyu) • 1597r0-JT performance with Multiple Impairments (Ron Porat) • 1616r0-Multi-AP group formation (Cheng Chen) Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Agenda for Thursday AM2 • Call meeting to order • IEEE-SA IPR policy and Procedure • Final Call for Ad-hoc chair(s) • Presentation of submissions • Recess Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Final Call For Ad-Hoc Chair(s) • Candidates for MAC ad-hoc chairs • Yongho Seok • Jeongki Kim • Liwen Chu • Srinivas Kandala • Candidates for PHY ad-hoc chairs • Bo Sun • Sigurd Schelstraete • Kate Meng • Tianyu Wu • Call for Candidates is Closed Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.
Submissions • 1495r0-Further Discussion on Feedback Overhead Reduction (Wook Bong Lee) [25 mins] • 1555r0-Remarks on P matrices for EHT (Miguel Lopez) [25 mins] • 1585r0-Orthogonal Sequence based Reference Signal for LTF Reduction (Junghoon Suh) [25 mins] • 1172r1-Discussion on HARQ (Wook Bong Lee) [25 mins] • 1144r1-Channel Access for Multi-link Operation (Insun Jang) [10 mins] • 1116r1-Channel access in multi-band operation (Yunbo Li) [10 mins] Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm Inc.