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A future for Computational Fluid Dynamic at CERN (?)

A future for Computational Fluid Dynamic at CERN (?). TS/CV/Detector Cooling - CFD Team TS workshop Archamps, France, May 24 – May 26, 2005 Michele Battistin. From fluid dynamics to Computational Fluid Dynamics. What is CFD Industrial and CERN applications The CFD service team at CERN

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A future for Computational Fluid Dynamic at CERN (?)

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  1. A future for Computational Fluid Dynamic at CERN (?) TS/CV/Detector Cooling - CFD TeamTS workshopArchamps, France, May 24 – May 26, 2005Michele Battistin 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  2. 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  3. From fluid dynamics to Computational Fluid Dynamics • What is CFD • Industrial and CERN applications • The CFD service team at CERN • Opportunities • What future for this team? 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  4. Computational Fluid Dynamics • Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) is an analysis of fluid flow, heat transfer and associated phenomena in physical systems using numerical methods. • The basis of computational fluid dynamics is the reduction of the continuum differential equations describing the dynamics of the fluid (Navier-Stokes + mass and energy conservation equations) into a system of algebraic equations at a finite number of "grid" points, and the solving of the equations at these limited number of points only. CFD is developing fast in many industry fields 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  5. A wide range of application fields Aerospace Automotive Biomedical Buildings Chemical Environment Marine Power gen. …and at CERN? Turbo-machinery 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  6. CNGS Horn Air Cooling Particle energy deposition heats up the horn and its shielding structure CFD simulations helped to decide modifications even during the construction phase 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  7. CFD for safety too Cavern floor: where some person could be present Velocity iso-surfaces 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  8. Alice Muons Detector heat transfer 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  9. Alice ITS: no time for prototypes At CERN, most of the times, the final system is the prototype. CFD can provide insight into fluid flow problems when experimental techniques are too expensive or physically impossible.The Alice, ATLAS and CMS Inner Trackers are good examples. 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  10. LHCb PS/SPD SPS magnet Who performs these simulations 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  11. Software versions Parallel calculation Computing power Web page A “TEAM” Identity & Image Problems sharing Web page Weekly meetings Archiving EDMS Standard reports Knowledge transfer Training problems Books Flyer Theory Supplier support Long term contracts Workload How projects arrive Efficiency User or client? Seminars Bulletin Turnover Quality procedures “advertising” …a new team… and its opportunities 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  12. Computing power IS the limiting resource of CFD • LxParc (6 DP machines) • OpenLab tests • 20 Itanium 64 bit DP machines cluster • 20 kCHF to improve ~8 times the calculation speed • IT could support the implementation of CFD on GRID The Grid will become soon THE natural calculation environment for CFD applications.CERN CFD team could have the opportunity to run simulations in this environment with an important advance and advantage over the industry! 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

  13. An important competence on this field can be achieved only with a long term training strategy which unfortunately is not compatible with the present nature of contracts of the team members!In order to maintain at least the CFD framework a dedicated staff position with the mandate of technical coordination of the team is required! Experience and continuous training High turnover doesn’t allow knowledge consolidationInduction training: Technical students Spanish & Portuguese programs Project Associates Doctoral Students Fellows 25th May 2005 – EDMS 591490

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