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Newbridge College

Join Mr. Brian Howard, Guidance Counsellor at Newbridge College, for an informative evening on the CAO application process. Learn about entry requirements, the points system, making an application, FETAC link schemes, and more. Take responsibility for researching courses and utilize helpful resources.

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  1. Newbridge College CAO Information Evening Mr. Brian Howard Guidance Counsellor

  2. Agenda • Applicants Responsibilities • General points regarding the CAO. • Entry Requirements and the Points System. • Making an application. • How places are allocated by CAO • After submitting the application. • FETAC Link Schemes • Questions

  3. It is the applicants responsibility to: • Research thoroughly all the courses for which he/she is making application: • Course code, content, requirements, fees, duration, award, options, etc. • Be au fait with all aspects of the application system used (CAO) for these courses: • Procedures, instructions, dates, fees, etc. • Give time in their busy schedule, on a regular basis for the above.

  4. Useful ResourcesTo assist with course research / application Publications • College Prospectuses – 2010 Entry • Student Yearbook and Career Directory 2, 2010 ed. • Career Choice 2010 ed., Level Three Publications • CAO Handbook 2010 • Directory of L.C. Entry Requirements - 2010 Entry Newspapers • The Irish Times • Tuesdays Education Section • January Special CAO College Supplement Series of daily articles-Brian Mooney • The Independent • CAO Articles - Mary O Donnell

  5. Internet • Qualifax – www.qualifax.ie Irish courses database • CAO – www.cao.ie Contains links to course websites • Careers Portal – www.careersportal.ie • College websites (Addresses in CAO Handbook) People • Relatives • Past pupils • Admissions/Academic staff of colleges Guidance Counsellor • Course Investigation Forms • Access to information & advice

  6. CAO – General Info. • Centralised application system for 45 Irish 3rd level institutions, including 8 fee-paying colleges. • Every 6th year should now have a CAO Application Pack which includes: • 2010 CAO Handbook – application and course information • Paper application form • Application fee bank giro form • Application Dates and Fees

  7. CAO – General Info. • Since 2005 there are now 3 types of courses students can apply for under the National Qualifications Framework.

  8. CAO – General Info. • These are applied for on 2 separate lists on a single form: • The courses are clearly labelled in the CAO Handbook • N.B. – Care must be taken with courses marked ‘Restricted’. • These courses cannot normally be applied for after February 1st due to extra assessments required.

  9. Minimum Entry Requirements E.g. UCD Pass 6 subjects At least 2 HC3 Pass in: Irish English Another Language Mathematics* Science Subject* Specific Subject Requirements E.g.s Engineering(UCD) HC3 Maths Veterinary Medicine(UCD) HC3 Chemistry French Law(UCD) HB3 French ENTRY REQUIREMENTSThese must be satisfied before “points” are considered. If all Entry Requirements are met  applicant is deemed ‘Qualified’ to apply.

  10. POINTS SYSTEM Generally in the CAO system No. of qualified applicants > No. of course places --> selection system is needed. Selection system used in Irish 3rd Level Colleges is POINTS SYSTEM • Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only. • Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects • Bonus points are awarded for Honours Mathematics by • University of Limerick - all courses • DIT - Course DT021, Electronic Eng. • Entry Requirements can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate

  11. POINTS ALLOCATION GradeHonoursOrdinary A1 100 60 A2 90 50 B1 85 45 B2 80 40 B3 75 35 C1 70 30 C2 65 25 C3 60 20 D1 55 15 D2 50 10 D3 45 5 LCVP Points Distinction 70 Merit 50 Pass 30

  12. Application to Medicine • New system applies to all undergraduate medicine courses. • In new system students must: • Achieve at least 480 points and meet the course minimum entry requirements in the same sitting of the Leaving Certificate. • Complete the Health Professionals Admissions Test (HPAT). • Application for HPAT and sample questions are online at www.hpat-ireland.acer.edu.au

  13. Cost - €95 Only one test date in 2010. Valid for 2010 & 2011 Dublin centres may include UCD & RDS. Places allocated on combined score for LC and HPAT. LC Points: Up to 550: 1  1 new pt. 550 to 600: 5  1 new pt. LC max score = 560 HPAT max score = 300 Combined max score = 860 Contact colleges for details. Important dates: 4 November Registration opens 18 January Final date for normal registrations 1 February Final date for late test registrations 27 February Test Date 28 June Test results to students 18 to 22 August Collation of new scores 23 August (provisional) Round 1 CAO offers HPAT

  14. Making an application • Applications can be made online or by paper form – use one method only. (€10 charge if 2 applications sent) • Always keep proof of sending application: online – print courses screen, paper – obtain certificate of post. • Now 2 steps: (a) Create Application Account, (b) Log in and enter details. • www.cao.ie Apply & My Application **VERY IMPORTANT** Students must fill out both course lists in: Genuine Order of Preference • They shouldn’t put down courses on the basis of predictions of next years cut off points or their own points scores.

  15. Applicant Position Applicant Position Points Score Points Score Science – UCD 100 places to be offered Course Merit Lists Science – Maynooth 100 places to be offered 1 560 1 560 2 535 2 535 3 525 3 525 4 520 4 520 5 510 5 510 6 510 6 510 7 505 7 505 8 500 8 500 9 490 9 490 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 15 455 15 455 16 445 16 445 17 440 17 440 18 435 18 435 19 420 19 420 20 410 20 410 21 405 21 405 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 98 340 98 345 99 335 99 340 100 330 100 335 101 325 101 335 102 315 102 335 103 310 103 315 104 305 104 310 105 295 105 305 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 182 265 182 265  Last place to be filled  Random Selection to be used Course Cut Off Points = 330 Course Cut Off Points = 335*

  16. So – what is the best way to fill in the courses? Dream Courses Realistic Courses Banker Courses

  17. Places Allocation Note: • The position of a course in a student’s preference order does not in any way affect their chance of getting a place on that course. • The exact same procedure takes place for both lists on the form, hence students may get get 2 offers in August – one from each list, may accept only one. • Students should think carefully about not accepting one of these offers, as they may not receive any further offers. • Regardless of whether or not they accept a course in round 1, they will still be offered a higher preference course in subsequent rounds if they become entitled one.

  18. After Making Application • (Paper) Receive CAO number and Statement of Course Choices – check this carefully. • (Online) Students receive CAO number online and use ‘My Application’ to check all their application details. • May make changes to courses up to March 1st - €10 fee • Some students may be called for extra assessments. • Receive Statement of Application Record – check details carefully. • Change of Mind facility becomes available – use sparingly and carefully, especially after exams. (email confirmation) • Leaving Cert. Results are sent to CAO. • Places are allocated and offered by post and online. • Students accept, reject or defer offered places. • Further rounds of offers are made until all course places are filled.

  19. CAO TIMETABLE 2010 ENTRY • 20th January, 2010 • Closing date for receipt of early online applications • 1st February, 2010 • Closing date for receipt of normal applications • 5th February to 1st March, 2010 • Courses may be changed online including ‘restricted’, €10 • Before/By 15th February, 2010 • Receive Statement of Course Choices (paper applicants) • 1st May, 2010 • Closing date for receipt of late applications • Early May, 2009 • Change of mind forms may be sent. (online - May 3rd) • Before/By 31st May, 2010 • Receive Statement of Application Record • 1st July, 2010 • Latest date for receipt of change of mind form in CAO. • ~23rd~ August, 2010 • First round of offers will commence.

  20. In Summary • Research courses thoroughly • Apply by January 20th • Apply online • Pay by debit/credit card • Put courses in order of preference • Obtain / retain proof of application • Be careful with change of mind

  21. PLC Courses • 2 schemes which allow PLC students progress to 3rd level CAO courses. • Higher Education Links Scheme (11 colleges) • Small number of reserved places. • Pilot Scheme (18 colleges) • Open competition for all places.

  22. Questions ??

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