Missed Triggers II Return of the Forgotten Ones

1. MissedTriggers IIReturn of the ForgottenOnes Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

2. What is a MissedTrigger? TriggeredAbility has to trigger Controllingplayer “forgets” it Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

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4. When is a TriggerForgotten? Target required Change in visible game state Choicerequired Rule-changing Non-visible effect Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

5. What is not a MissedTrigger? Triggerresolvedpartiallyorincorrectly Game gotrushed past the Trigger Triggerthatmakesdelayedtrigger Triggerthatmakes copies Trigger without impact Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

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7. What has changed? Misseddelayedtriggers Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

8. Remedy Stilldependson the situation Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

9. PossibleSituations Optionalaction Youmay Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

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11. Optionalaction As a Player: try to remembernext time As an Opponent: nothing As a Judge: nothing Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

12. PossibleSituations MandatoryAction Usuallybeneficial Usuallydetrimental Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

13. WHO’S THAT MAGIC CARD? Seminar onMissedTriggers – 2nd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Oirschot ByBemindtJona – 25th November 2012

14. Beneficialmandatorytrigger • Onlyifaskedby Opponent • Put ability in proper place, oronbottom of stack • No Warnings As a Player: try to remembernext time As an Opponent: youcancall a Judge As a Judge: Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

15. Detrimentalmandatorytrigger • Issue a Warning • Put ability in proper place, or on bottom of stack ifasked As a Player: try to remembernext time As an Opponent: youcancall a Judge As a Judge: Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

16. PossibleSituations Default action Ifyoudon’t.../...unless Associatedwithchoice made by controller Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

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18. Defaultaction • Issue a Warning • Always resolvedefault action (2 possibilities) • Everythingstilllegal? As a Player: try to remembernext time As an Opponent: youcancall a Judge As a Judge: Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

19. PossibleSituations Delayed Trigger Changes zone of an object Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

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21. Defaultaction • Issue a Warning? • Always resolve default action (2 possibilities) • Everythingstilllegal? As a Player: try to remembernext time As an Opponent: youcancall a Judge As a Judge: Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

22. PossibleSituations 5. Youdon’t want to Anabilityyoucontroltriggers Youknowabout the trigger Youchoose to ignoreit Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

23. Youdon’t want to No longer a MissedTrigger UnsportingConduct - Cheating Handleit as such Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

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25. Whatabout the opponent? • Duration of the effect has notyetexpired • OR • Trigger was missedlessthan a turn ago Is neverissued a Warning Cancall a Judge: Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

26. Recapitulation • Calledby the Opponent • You want to issue a Warning • You suspect Shenanigans Warningsforunintentionallymisseddetrimentaltrigger Onlyinterveneif: Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

27. PhilosophicalGrounds Common and invisible Rememberyourowntriggers Don’t have to play the game foryour Opponent Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

28. Adventure Time! Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

29. Adventure I Neville controls a BattlewiseHoplite Albus attacks with a NessianAsp Neville casts SavageSurge on the Hoplite Neville scriesand puts the card on the bottom Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

30. Adventure I Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

31. Adventure I Both players are nowtapped out Neville blockswith the Hoplite Albus says: “ok, so the Hoplite dies” Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

32. Adventure I Do youinterfere? Infraction? Ruling? Penalties? Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

33. Adventure II Aragogcontrols a Desecration Demon Nagini has no creatures, but 4 land untapped Aragogsays: “declare attack?” Naginisays: “sure!” Aragog attacks with the Demon Nagini calls the Judge Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

34. Adventure II Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

35. Adventure II Infraction? Ruling? Penalties? Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

36. Adventure III In Narcissa’s last turn, shecastedAkroan Horse an gave itto Arabella Arabella untaps, and draws a card Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

37. Adventure III Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

38. Adventure III Do youinterfere? Infraction? Ruling? Penalties? Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013

39. Questions? Seminar onMissedTriggers – 3rd AnnualBeNeLux Judge Conference – Overpelt ByBemindtJona – 24th November 2013