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A Vision from CERN

A Vision from CERN. Lucio Rossi CERN Round table on EC programs At Eucard /Eucard2 workshop 2013. (constructive!) c ritics. There is little connection between the assessment of the proposals and the EU strategy of HEP ( Esgard , CERN Council)

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A Vision from CERN

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  1. A Vision from CERN Lucio Rossi CERN Round table on EC programs AtEucard/Eucard2 workshop 2013

  2. (constructive!) critics • There islittleconnectionbetween the assessment of the proposals and the EU strategy of HEP (Esgard, CERN Council) • Change in assessment for similar programs (HFMagnets) • FP6-CARE : NED  • FP7-Eucard : WP7  • FP7-Eucard2 : WP10  • Referees have theirowninterest, ideas and community (whichis normal). EC officersshouildbeempowered to correct/mitigate - if the case – theriassessment • It isbetterfor Design Studyand PP applications

  3. Critics (Cont.) • Assessment that programs are too much centered to CERN is simply not the point: CERN is the center of networking in EU !!!! • For the CERN-core programs, CERN waive all request for technicalwork (onlycost as coordinators)! • HiLumi LHC: CERN has received 13% of costvsd. 50% for all other ERA participants • Eucard2-WP10: seenextslides

  4. How is possible to hearthat the magnet program isonly of CERN interest? The samecouldbesaid for collimators

  5. Cont. • The fundingfor CERN should not go on the verge of insignificance. • How to report the real fundingwe put on the program? Or thiswouldmake EU contribution even more insignificant?

  6. Further observations • The legal/IP part for our programs isuselesslyheavy and impedes to associate non-EU, especially US labs. • In HilumiFermilabwas NOT considered as ResearchEntity, its running companywastreated by Bruxelles as an escamotage… • Japan (KEK) is a remakable good exception!! • Strong support to networking, Collaboration Meetings, Coordiantionactivities… overlapswithconference, topical workshop and projectCMs • Mitigation: code sharing… • Four yearsis short for long term program (DOE CDP 1998 till now). A revisable 10 y program wouldbemuchbetter… • Mitigation: we bridge successive programs (CARE-Eucard-Eucard2 withstrong links with SLHC-PP, HiLumiLHC DS, etc..

  7. Good remarks! • The call triggers new ideas and association. • In HiLumi the collaboration on LHC has been verymuchenlarged… much more than LHC. • A call islike a train: let’sget on board, createexcitement and givesalways a fresh air • MSs and DLVs: the concept isquite good, I thinkweneed to use itbetter. • Discipline R&D (R&D syndrome: «tomoorow»…) • It valorizethatwemakethings and progress… • Suggestion: have an Assessment 1 yearafter the end of program to understand the real progress and influence of each program.

  8. Good (Cont.) • Since CERN is home to large and expensivefacilities: • We have extensive and unique infrastructures • We are in a better position thanuniversities and smallresearchcenters to «apply» or making a reality of new ideasand new concepts that come from us or may come for collaborating Institutes • Thanksto the workshop facilitieswe are able to engineer and prototype devices. Wecanalso test them in real conditions • One of our main goals is to stimulate the inventiveness of our supporting partners and channel development to ensure the collaboration is a «win-win» game. • The EU program value goesbeyond the amount of money distributed; Collaboration is INVALUABLE for us, and never «insignificant» despite not adequatefinancing • However a support from EU athigherlevelthantoday to researchcenterswith long term programs and stronglink to Industry (like CERN and otherAccel. Labs) wouldbeappreciated and beneficial for EU

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