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THE ODYSSEY III-V. The Magical Mystery Tour Continues. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY?. The Who and the Where of the Odyssey 3-5 The Mini-Epic of Telemakhos The Continual Rebirth of Odysseus. Major Players in the Odyssey 3-5. Odysseus – king of Ithaka and our hero
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THE ODYSSEY III-V The Magical Mystery Tour Continues
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY? • The Who and the Where of the Odyssey 3-5 • The Mini-Epic of Telemakhos • The Continual Rebirth of Odysseus
Major Players in the Odyssey 3-5 • Odysseus – king of Ithaka and our hero • Telemakhos – son of Odysseus • Penelope – wife of Odysseus • Nestor – king of Pylos, elder sage of the Greek army at Troy • Kalypso – sea nymph trying to detain Odysseus permanently
Major Players in the Odyssey 3-5 MENELAOS • King of Sparta • Husband of Helen, and younger brother of Agamemnon • Had major issues getting home • Oath to uphold his marriage led Odysseus to go to war
Major Players in the Odyssey 3-5 • Husband of Klytemnestra (oops) • Commander of the Greek fleet at Troy • Killed his daughter to get to Troy • Murdered by ______? AGAMEMNON
Major Players in the Odyssey 3-5 HELEN • Wife of Menelaos, and daughter of Zeus • Supposedly the most beautiful woman in the world • Might not have gone to Troy • Claims it wasn’t her fault
The Where of the Odyssey ITHAKA • Odysseus’ kingdom, • the place he just wants • to get back to • located on the western • side of Greece
The Where of the Odyssey PYLOS -Home of Nestor -Telemakhos’ first stop on his way to find out his father’s fate
The Where of the Odyssey SPARTA Home of Menelaos and Helen
TELEMAKHOS’ JOURNEY • WHY? – to find his father and himself • WHERE? – Pylos, Sparta, back to Ithaka • WHO? – Mentor, Nestor, Menelaos, Helen, Athena • What are the differences between Telemakhos’ journey and Odysseus? (besides the obvious ones)
TELEMAKHOS Goes on a rented boat Has only one ship Goes to visit friends Has a goddess with him Leaves behind a terrible home situation Gets home in a couple of weeks or so ODYSSEUS Takes his own fleet Has fifty ships Goes to war Doesn’t have a goddess with him Leaves nothing amiss at home Doesn’t think it’ll take so blasted long to get home FATHER AND SON GO WALK-ABOUT
DIFFERENT, BUT SAME • Both men are going at the behest of others: - Telemakhos because of the suitors - Odysseus because of an oath to Menelaos • Both men are tempted by hospitality • Both men go with a single purpose: to reclaim their kingdom
Is Telemakhos, as Nestor, Menelaos and Helen say, a spitting image of his father in all respects? Whose journey is more filled with peril, the father’s or the son’s? 3) Would you consider Telemakhos’ journey an odyssey? 4) Is Telemakhos’ journey necessary? Is Odysseus’? QUESTIONS TO PONDER ABOUT TELEMAKHOS’ JOURNEY
Just what IS an odyssey? “The first MYTHEME in our odyssey plot involves getting there (getting started, then getting through or over any hurdles, obstacles, perils, or getting out of baited traps along the way), the second MYTHEME involves getting what you went to get once you get there;while the third MYTHEME involves getting away with it in spite of the guards; and the fourth MYTHEME involves getting back where you came from, again, as on the way out, getting past dangers, which may be harder now because the prize you're bringing back makes you more likely to get ripped off.” (John van Sickle)
Just what IS an odyssey? “In such a story, we can notice, the traveler keeps coming up against the unexpected; in other words, dangers and distractions keep overtaking one. Now "over" plus "take" add up to what in the languages derived from Latin gets called SURPRISE; while coming upon or up against gets called ADVENTURE. So the odyssey we have been defining turns out to be a classic plot of adventure and surprise.”
First Mytheme: Getting There • Getting Started: • Telemakhos • Odysseus • Getting Through Hurdles: • Telemakhos: suitors, youth, inexperience, despair • Odysseus: nine major perils along the way, distrust, despair, heroic nature
Second Mytheme: Getting What You Want When You Get There • Telemakhos: • News of his father • Courage and encouragement • A plan and a friendly face • Odysseus: • Food • Just a little bit closer • Constitutional fortification
Third Mytheme: Getting Away With It Despite The Guards • Telemakhos: • Doesn’t really apply here • Odysseus: • The Cyclopes • The Sirens • Poseidon • The witch • The suitors
Fourth Mytheme: Getting Back • Telemakhos: • We’ll have to wait and see • Odysseus: • We’ll have to wait and see
Odysseus is constantly left for dead, yet he always manages to get out of it The war, Calypso’s island, the shipwrecks Usually with a little (or a lot) of help from the gods (Athena) Each time he reaches a new place, he is reborn Phaiakia: Odysseus, for all intents and purposes, goes through the birth cycle again REBIRTH
He is “sick with salt water, and all his flesh was swollen, and the sea water crusted stiffly in his mouth and nostrils, and with a terrible weariness he lay unable to breathe or speak in his weakness” (Lattimore) “Newborn is covered in vernix, the greasy substance covering the skin…Some blood may be visible on the body of the little one…the nose and airways may need to be cleaned and oxygen provided (if necessary).” The Rebirth of Odysseus in Phaiakia
What is the role of women in the Odyssey: to advance plot, provide paradigms, or serve men? Is Kalypso right to be angry with Hermes? 3) Does Penelope’s refusal to remarry smack of stupidity? Would Odysseus even have cared? 4) Was Helen guilty of starting the Trojan War? Questions to Ponder Concerning Women in the Odyssey