The engineering team

1. The engineering team

2. Growing professionals Area considered in the Bill Dept of Education school Dept of Education tertiary Dept of Labour ECSA and Voluntary Associations Mathematics & science candidate Facilities and staff Coaching & bursaries professional Mentoring & training programmes CPD & license to practice Proof of competence Maintaining competence

3. Built Environment Professions Bill B53-2008 This proposed bill is aimed at mainly effecting change at the professional regulatory level and does not take the bottlenecks in the entire supply pipeline into account The professional development pipeline can takes years to produce a competent and mature professional as is evident and agreed by international bodies

4. The skills acquisition pyramidExpertise takes time to develop

5. Competences agreed for mobility A newly registered engineering professional would not automatically be recognised in another country as competent and registerable until he or she meets the following minimum criteria

6. Competences agreed for mobility A recognised degree or diploma Registration in the member country A minimum of seven years experience A minimum of two years in which the applicant should have been the responsible person in charge of projects CPD records maintained for past five years Adequate knowledge of local conditions Adequate communication skills and language proficiency This is to reduce the training load and risk on the receiving country. The process has been agreed by most of the English speaking and many Asian countries

7. The ECSA process • The ECSA process is mature and proven and based on demonstrated engineering competence • This is evidenced by low levels of failures to date • It is recognized internationally

8. The ECSA process continued • The introduction of the Identification of Engineering Work (IDoEW) is a further step to protect the public • Its imminent introduction has resulted in substantially increased registrations over the past two years • Many training programmes have recently been initiated to take more graduates through the candidate phase, for example the DBSA Siyenza Manje programme which will result in a further acceleration in the number of engineering professionals registering

9. Our recommendations • Established (and at present improving) processes should not be disrupted now at a time when industry is under extreme pressure with the delivery of 2010 projects and the Millennium Development Goals • The internationally agreed and proven processes should not be discarded • The need for professional judgement and competencies should be recognised • The CBE should represent and include the entire built environment and associated disciplines including land surveyors, town planners and others

10. Our belief is that ….. • The CBE should as its primary mandate play a coordination and administrative role to support the Councils • The CBE should facilitate integration in the fields of • Research • Communication • Development of policy • IT development and integrated administrative systems and reporting • The Councils should continue with • Accreditation of tertiary education programmes • Registration and setting criteria for different categories of registration • Disciplinary processes

11. Built Environment Professions Bill B53-2008 Before any statutory changes are considered, DPW, the Statutory Structures and the Voluntary Associations should be engaging in a structured process together with the other Government Departments and Structures who are affected by or have an interest in the pipeline to ensure a vibrant and successful South African Built Environment which as a primary resource supports the country

12. Built Environment Professions Bill B53-2008 We appeal to the Portfolio Committee on Public Works to assist and facilitate a structured process of engagement to design a robust system to allow South Africa to DEVELOP and GROW the capacity of the crucial built environment professions

13. Built Environment Professions Bill B53-2008 Thank you for the opportunity to present on behalf of the 2008 SAICE Executive Board Johan de Koker President Prof Elsabe Kearsley President Elect Ali Naidu President Elect 2009 Tom Mckune Vice President Christopher Campbell Vice President Werner Jerling Vice President Peter Kleynhans Seetella Makhetha Neil Macleod Derek Burger Malcolnm Pautz Allyson Lawless Anthony Murray Sam Amod Mike Deeks & David Botha Executive Director

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