Dinosaurs after the flood?

1. Dinosaurs after the flood?

2. The biggest problem with understanding dinosaurs is: • The word dinosaur. • How would you define the word “Dinosaur?” • Dictionary definition: • any of a group of extinct carnivorous or herbivorous reptiles of the Mesozoic era. • There was no Mesozoic period. • That’s make believe.

3. The biggest problem with understanding dinosaurs is: • The word dinosaurhas not been around long. • That’s why we don’t find it in the Bible. • What was the bible word? ________ Dragon

4. The biggest problem with understanding dinosaurs is: • The word “Dinosaur” implies a giant lizard living by themselves in a time long ago before man. • There were giant lizards. • They did not live by themselves. • They did live with men.

5. But what about the bones we find. • We know these are real.

6. This creates a problem • The word “Dinosaur” is partially true and mostly false. • Which makes it hard to answer the question – • “What happened to the Dinosaurs.”

7. Let’s change the question a bit. • Let’ say, “What happened to T-Rex?” • We find his bones so we know he was alive with ________. • I don’t see any around today. Noah

8. What happened to T-Rex? • We must learn some more things about fossils. • Then we need to get out of the evolution box and look at it from a Biblical sense. • You will be surprised.

9. Reconstructing a fossil • Most of the fossils in the fossil record are still alive. • Some are extinct and we don’t really know what they looked like.

10. Reconstructing a fossil • If we had all the bones, we would only have about 40% of the animal to reconstruct it from. • If we never saw a human andfound our skull a lot is left off. • Ears, nose, hair, beard • Different chins, eye brows, etc. • We would be guessing at all of these.

11. Reconstructing a fossil • However, we rarely find even ½ of the bones in a skeleton. • Usually they are ripped apart by the mud slide they are found in. • You won’t find the Brontosaurs in any modern dinosaur books because they have found another skeleton with the correct head on it.

12. Reconstructing a fossil • The amount of large animal fossils is very minimal. • I believe, “Sue” is the only fairly complete T rex fossil found. • There have only been a few other finds of a few bones each. • Actually, of the bigger dinosaurs we have found very few fossils.

13. Reconstructing a fossil • Why would this be? • During a catastrophic flood, what would get caught in the bottom layers of flood sediment? • What would happen to the larger animals as we see the flood waters rising? • They would probably escape to the higher mountains.

14. Fossil Graveyards • In 1870, Professor F.S. Holmes published “The Phosphate Rocks.” • About a place known as the Ashley Beds • About 40 square miles big • Near Charleston South Carolina. • In his book he said, “Remains of the hog, the horse and other animals of recent date, together with human bones mingled with the bones of the mastodon and extinct gigantic lizards.” • There are other fossil graveyards like this around the world.

15. Is there any way to know what they might have looked like? • Evolutionists struggle because: • They need the millions of years to explain the impossibility of evolution. • Therefore they have to sever any likeness of known animals that have existed. • Many of their drawings don’t even resemble the bones.

16. Is there any way to know what they might have looked like? • A creationist have the advantage. • We know most of these animals were on the ark. • Many may have even made it up to recent times.

17. Tyrannosaurs Rex • Was he the great terrible lizard the movies depict him as? • We really won’t know for sure because we can’t see one now. • Let’s look at the evidence & make our own assessment.

18. Tyrannosaurs Rex • His front arms are so short they couldn’t even put anything into his mouth. • He has nothing to catch an animal with like the great cats or a bear.

19. Tyrannosaurs Rex • 2 legged animals are not nearly as quick or adapt to speed as 4 legged ones. We let our little Dachshund out once and he took off. It was a hilarious sight watching a 2 legged man try to catch a little 4 legged dog.

20. Tyrannosaurs Rex • 2 legged animals are not nearly as quick or adapt to speed as 4 legged ones. • He couldn’t catch any 4 legged animals.

21. Tyrannosaurs Rex • He is built well to be a scavenger. • He could hold down a dead animal with his small hands or one of his claw like feet and chew big chunks off.

22. Tyrannosaurs Rex • In the defense he would be hard to get. • His tail would be a great defensive weapon. • This would also protect him as he is fleeing a predator. (I don’t think many animals would want what they caught if they were to catch him.)

23. Tyrannosaurs Rex • There have only been a few skeletons of the T-rex found and most of them were very incomplete. • What if they didn’t put him together quite right? • Notice the funny bones on the front of those little arms? What were they?

24. Tyrannosaurs Rex What if he lived long after the Ark? And someone drew a picture of him? Let’s explore that idea…. It may be true or maybe not – I don’t know.

25. Tyrannosaurs Rex This is a drawing from the 1400’s of Sir George killing the dragon.

26. Notice 2 legged • 3 toes on each foot • Long tail • Big teeth

27. Little arms / wings. • Could the arms on T-rex be attached wrong? • What if we turned them around?

28. They’re even in the same shape as the painting of the dragon. • Maybe that little elbow bone had something to do with the wing? • Is it possible?

29. What were these “Dragons like?”

30. Jer. 9:11, And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons… • Did they live in caves? • Were the bones of the things they ate scattered around? • Obviously everyone knew or had seen a dragon’s den to relate to what Jeremiah said.

31. Jer. 14:6, …they snuffed up the wind like dragons;… • Jer. 51.34, …he hath swallowed me up like a dragon,… • Mic. 1:8, …I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls.

32. Other pictures of Dragons

33. Heidelberg dragons • European dragons are commonly regarded as brute and wayward beasts. Not so in Heidelberg. There dragons were part of everyday life. Their eggs were commonly found in the river Neckar. People collected them, hatched and raised the dragons. The young dragons became loyal keepers and protectors of the house. Additionally they helped to light the hearth - remember, there were no matches at that time! Of course every blacksmith owned a dragon.

34. Heidelberg dragons • People living near the river Neckar, and especially fishermen preferred the water-loving female dragons. Only male dragons were able to fly. They were preferred by farmers and wine-growers. Old legends even tell about dragon-riders - who knows? Female dragons were very intelligent. There are reports, that some of them were capable of the human language. They were beloved by wise women, alchimists and sorcerers, and scholars, who often had philosophical discourses with their dragons.

35. Heidelberg dragons • People inhabiting only small rooms kept dwarf dragons. In this species both sexes had wings. Their eggs were commonly found on the sunny hillsides in the vicinity of Heidelberg. Christianity brought an end to these good old habits - the keeping of a domestic dragon. Clergymen interpreted dragons as an offspring of hell and prohibited any contact with these animals. Disobedience was rigorously punished.

36. Are there any other historical accounts? • We need to be careful of sightings. • Not all are true • If these animals were alive though, you would expect to have sightings. • Sightings alone are not reliable but combined with some other type of evidence they can be used.

37. The Plesiosaur • These are the bones they’ve found. • Notice many are not connected. • I think they’re right, but we don’t know for sure.

38. The Plesiosaur • Ancient Roman mosaic. • Were these mosaics of creatures that were around at that time?

39. The Plesiosaur • April 10, 1977 • Decayed body of a possible modern plesiosaur snagged in 900-feet of water near New Zealand • Picture taken from the Japanese fishing boat Zuiyo Maru. • 32 feet long, weighing approximately 4,000 lbs. • Unfortunately, they threw the carcass back into the sea because of the smell and decay.

40. The Plesiosaur • The Japanese thought is was so important of a find, they commemorated a stamp after the find. 

41. The Plesiosaur • Other “Sea monsters” have washed up on beaches.

42. The Plesiosaur • Some have had their picture taken. • Are these actual pictures? • I don’t know. • But I believe there is such an animal alive today.

43. The Pterodactyl • The respected Greek explorer Herodotus described small flying reptiles in ancient Egypt and Arabia.. They had the same snake-like body and bat-like wings. Many had been killed near the city of Buto Arabia. He was shown a canyon with many piles of their back-bones and ribs.

44. The Pterodactyl • He said these animals could sometimes be found in the spice groves. They were “small in size and of various colors.” Large numbers would sometimes gather in the frankincense trees. When workers wanted to gather the trees’ valuable juices, they would use smelly smoke to drive the flying reptiles away.

45. The Pterodactyl • Aristotle said that in his time it was common knowledge that creatures like this also existed in Ethiopia.

46. The Pterodactyl • Similar animals, 3 feet long, were also described in India by the geographer Strabo.

47. The Pterodactyl • Natives in northern Zimbabwe described a strange flying animal which they called the “kongamato.” It was not a bird, but more like a redish colored lizard with bare bat-like wings. The distance between its wingtips was 4 - 7 feet and it lived in the Jiunda Swamp. When shown pictures of different animals they always picked the picture of a Pterodactyl.

48. Are these real pictures?

49. The Brontosaurus • Apatosaurus skeletons are usually found headless, however, because the skull and neck connections were fragile. When Marsh discovered the first Apatosaurus fossils, he mistakenly paired them with the skull of the Camarasaurus, a smaller relative. Consequently, Apatosaurus was depicted as having Camarasaurus’s flat-nosed head and peglike teeth until the late 1970s, when scientists corrected the error.

50. The Brontosaurus • What does he eat? • How big is he? • Where would you find one? • Could you trap one? • Read Job 40:15 –