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European Detector R&D and FP7 - Outline

European Detector R&D and FP7 - Outline. Background New call for IAs (Integrated Activities) in November – it is in fact expected tomorrow with deadline 29.2.2008. ESGARD preparing proposal for accelerator R&D (as follow up to CARE) for this call

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European Detector R&D and FP7 - Outline

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  1. European Detector R&D and FP7 - Outline • Background • New call for IAs (Integrated Activities) in November – it is in fact expected tomorrow with deadline 29.2.2008. • ESGARD preparing proposal for accelerator R&D (as follow up to CARE) for this call • IA potentially also very useful for infrastructures related to common R&D – for detector development for SLHC, Linear Colliders, Neutrinos, etc. • also in this area we need coordination to set our own priorities, to improve our chances for success, • and also in this area we can benefit from better coherency/communication among all the actors in the field • EUDET a successful example in FP6 for detector R&D as supported by such a program • Progress since last meeting • Outline of application • Next steps S.Stapnes

  2. European Detector R&D and FP7 – WEB- information • WEB page at: http://project-fp7-detectors.web.cern.ch/project-FP7-detectors/Default.htm S.Stapnes

  3. A European Coordination Group for Detector R&D in the FP7 programs: • The successful model for such a group is ESGARD covering accelerator R&D. • For detector R&D the activities are much more widely distributed and the major stakeholders are the main experiments being planned for SLHC, Linear Collider (EUDET), Neutrino and Flavour physics. • It is therefore suggested to create a COORDINATION GROUP with representatives for these planned experiments plus CERN and DESY. The believe is that most of the European detector R&D are focused and organised as part of these collaborations or proto-collaborations. • The detector R&D coordination group must also have effective links to ESGARD to make sure the plans concerning submissions to EU programs in the areas of accelerator R&D and detector R&D are coherent. • The current composition of the group is: • Joachim Mnich, EUDET (Linaer Collider Detectors) • Nigel Hessey and Jordan Nash, upgrade coordinators ATLAS, CMS • Lucie Linssen representing CERN • Rolf Heuer representing DESY • Alain Blondel representing neutrino detectors • Francesco Forti representing flavour factory detectors • One person from ESGARD (or/and frequent communication ESGARD) • The group is lead by Norman McCubbin and Steinar Stapnes. S.Stapnes

  4. National Contacts The National Contact Group ia a reference group with national representatives. The detector R&D is very widely distributed activity with many potential project partners, during this process it is important to have discussion partners in each European country that can: • Help to identify the major detector R&D activities in each country • Help to identify one (or a few) potential contract partners for EU proposals in the area of detector R&D (this could typically be national labs taking on coordination roles within one country, or a lead institute) • Provide guidance to the Coordination Group during the planning phase (mails and information concerning the coordination groups work will be distributed to these national contacts). Names identified by RECFA representatives (and if not received the RECFA representative is used): S.Stapnes

  5. Call for IAs - summary • IA: Integrated Activities ... must combine three elements: networking, trans-national access (TNA) and joint research activities (JRA). • Used successfully and creatively by EUDET in FP6 to support test-beams and other common infrastructures for the R&D and integration activities, building some of the prototypes (used as part of infrastructures), and to provide travel funds for participants – for ILC detector R&D. 30+ participating institutions and 60+ FTEs … 7 MEURO budget. • Also used by CARE for accelerator R&D of course • The IA call will be on 30 November, deadline 29 February 2008 and then again in 2010. These calls are for both the traditional IA activities and also the new Thematic IAs. • Scope 277 MEURO. • Typical size, 4-6 MEURO with 20 participants, can increase to 10-15 MEURO in special cases with more participants, for 4 years (2009-2012) • Expected to have similar structures to I3s in FP6 (as used by EUDET and CARE) S.Stapnes

  6. Agendas Link to meeting agenda and slides available: http://indico.cern.ch/categoryDisplay.py?categId=1696 S.Stapnes

  7. Proposal strategy • Priorities: • Common detector R&D facilities needed 2009-2012 (as identified by representatives of the coordination group) • Testbeams, Irradiation facilities, Electronics development tools, Software tools - focus on items/projects which adapt them to next detector R&D stage • SLHC detector R&D facilities • Adaptation of the facilities/tools for SLHC detector R&D • Linear Collider Detector R&D facilities • Focus on facilities that allow follow up of EUDET (combined set up and testing of detectors), plus related electronics, software and detector integration tools • Neutrino detector Detector R&D facilities • Study of detector elements in testbeams, electronics and software development, detector integration tools • SuperB (mostly covered by above) • Testbeam measurements, irradiations, detectors and software Many of these facilities/common tools are linked to equipment and projects taking place in the CERN beams but several are also distributed (for example irradiation facilities, electronics, software, etc) S.Stapnes

  8. Outline of proposal The following key activities are identified. They will in several cases need to be split into several work-packages (will wait for call to be launched to finalise this breakdown). Current ongoing work is to identify main objectives, coordinators, main partners, budget envelopes • Electronics tools for new detectors (example 1) • Software developments for detector R&D: • Geant4 (pileup and also other packages), Fluka (backgrounds), Reconstruction toolkit, Geometry package to allow simulating various layouts efficiently) • Irradiation facilities for detector R&D – crucial in particular for SLHC rates, several such facilities around Europe needed – many improvements needed for SLHC studies (and will obviously also cover needs for anybody else) • Test-beam facilities: • Linear Collider Combined tests (example 2) • SLHC detector testing • Neutrino Detector Testing • Super B Detector Testing • Technical Coordination tools for Linear Collider Experiment(s) • Technical Coordination tools for Neutrino Experiment(s) In addition there will be a Management/Outreach WP S.Stapnes

  9. Outline of proposal - example 1 Deep Sub-Micron (DSM) electronics • Main clients SLHC, ILC/CLIC and super-B. Neutrino detectors will profit from the developments, though their need for radiation hardness is less • Proposed activities (being worked out) in table on the right: Activity presently initiated by Sandro Marchioro Contact persons: • ILC/CLIC – Christoph de la Taille, Marc Winter, Leif Jönssen, Luciano Musa • SLHC – Philippe Farthouat, Jordan Nash • Neutrinos – Alfons Weber, Andre Rubbia • B-physic – Valerio Re (Bergamo univ.) S.Stapnes

  10. Outline of proposal - example 2 Linear Collider combined test facilities • Beamline adaption • Integration facility for parts • DAQ combined • Tracking infrastructure • Calorimeter prototype infrastrucutre Related (under the headings software and integration tool activities two pages back) • Energy flow reconstruction tools • Integration tool development (technical coordination) S.Stapnes

  11. Meeting with National Contacts S.Stapnes

  12. Similar proposals • HadronPhysics in FP6 I3HP has 49 beneficiaries and a 17.4 MEURO EU budget. • Current project is at http://www.infn.it/eu/i3hp/ • They are preparing a follow-up proposal:http://www.hadronphysics2.eu/. We expect this proposal to request 15 MEURO from the EU. • The EURONS community for nuclear physics. • The present EURONS project has 14.1 MEURO EU funds. EURONS has 9 NA's, 12 TA's and 13 JRA's: http://ec.europa.eu/research/infrastructures/pdf/eurons.pdfhttp://www.gsi.de/informationen/jofu/EURONS/ • They are preparing a new proposal (link not found) • There is the ILIAS (Integrated Large Infrastructures for AstroparticleScience) FP6 project. • Current project got 7.5 MEURO from the EU: http://wwwilias.cea.fr/scripts/home/publigen/content/templates/show.asp?L=EN&P=293&vTicker=alleza&ITEMID=3 • They are preparing a new proposal under this site: http://www-ilias.cea.fr/scripts/home/publigen/content/templates/show.asp?P=157&L=EN&ITEMID=43 S.Stapnes

  13. Budget strategy • Aimed for 15 MEURO - in line with large size of community • And to make sure we can involve them in these important general facilities that are clearly needed for next phase • Some uneasiness that we enter with two large proposals - accelerators and detectors • What do we do - reducing the detector proposal will drive down the number of participants and funding shares, and hence the attractiveness of proposal both for participants (= some of you) and to the EU. Below a certain limit it makes no sense. • We need to have an agreed common strategy S.Stapnes

  14. Conclusions • Progress is being made outlining an IA – following the plans outlined in our London/Manchester/Berlin meetings • Now have people working on each activity including contacts to main detector development projects in these areas • Coordination and National Contact Groups established • Proposal is concentrated on key facilities for Detector R&D in Europe that we serve a large part of the community and that can be used by several projects • Budget envelope very difficult and impacts the number of groups and projects that can be included S.Stapnes

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