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New Paradigms for Defence Procurement and Industrial Policy?. Queen’s University February 27, 2012. The C&I Group. Boutique corporate advisory firm – offset and economic development programs Lawyers Defence Industry specialists Fifty eight year pedigree (1954) Total staff of approx 50
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New Paradigms for Defence Procurement and Industrial Policy? Queen’s University February 27, 2012
The C&I Group • Boutique corporate advisory firm – offset and economic development programs • Lawyers • Defence Industry specialists • Fifty eight year pedigree (1954) • Total staff of approx 50 • Offices Australia, India & Canada
C&I Group Services • Specialist advice on: • Offsets (IRBs) (TRACE vetted) • Global business deals • JV and relationship structuring • Intellectual property commercialisation • Defence & IP contract negotiation – with primes, Government and sub-suppliers • Socio-Economic Development Programs as a means to leverage business
Questions • What percentages of payloads (arctic ships and then frigates) do we expect to be produced in Canada? • What would be the spatial (regional) distribution of that work? • What is our assessment of the role of Industry Canada in coordination? Are we competitors to IC? • What is my assessment of Industry Canada approvals of CCVs?
Market/Economic Forces • CCV and Regional distribution determined by the main contractor on a cost/risk economic basis. • Role of IC or an IRB policy is to try and influence that decision making in a way that meets policy objectives but does not distort the economic rationalism of the contractors business and pricing.
Market/Economic Forces • If Canadian shipyards/suppliers are price and quality competitive work should flow to them. • Supply Chains tend to be sticky • Is a lower “off shore” solution available? • As a “nation” how do we want to drive industry policy, to what value of a procurement and where should it be located.
Australian LHD Ship • Aus Govt did not mandate where ships were to be built • French and Spanish looked at primarily offshore build • media expectation that Spanish would build wholly offshore meant the potential closure of a major shipyard • French proposed most of the build in Australia at various yards
Australian LHD Ship • Spanish won with compromise solution meeting two objectives • hulls built in Spain, up to the flight deck • Australia yard will build the superstructure • all the technology smarts and the critical systems integration will also happen in Australia
Australian LHD Ship • In terms of total tonnage possibly only 20% built in Australia • but in terms of contract value which included the hi-tech jobs, the percentages are reversed, i.e. 80%.
Australian Air Warfare Destroyer • Australian government mandated the government owned ASC shipyard must build the ships • A Navantia design selected • much of the design and engineering work is being done in Spain • tonnage built will all be in Australia • ASC on a deployed module build program sharing the modules around a number shipyards, including quite small ones.
Australian Air Warfare Destroyer • Modules consolidated in Adelaide • A number of yards “heads above water” for a little longer. • Industry policy certainly does drive outcomes
Major Platforms Mission System (ears, eyes and brains of the vessel) • Mission Computer, Displays and Systems Integration • Sensors • Radar • EW • Acoustics • EO/IR • Communications • Weapons • Torpedoes • Guns
Who can do it here? • Lockheed Martin Canada • GD Canada • Ultra Marine and Electronics • MDA • Raytheon • DRS • As well as numerous capable tech savy suppliers in areas such as display across the country
But can we do it here? • Plenty of capable talent • Do we offer the right risk reward compared to offshore? • Are we competitive on price? • Are the major suppliers prepared to contract with Canadian companies?
IRB Policy –does it encourage? • Direct IRBs • Global Value Chains • Mandate high levels of Direct? • Direct has many different quality levels • Defence only IRBs? • Other incentives to promote FULL participation of Canadians companies in Canadian defence procurement and global sales?
Questions –”answered” • What percentages of payloads (arctic ships and then frigates) do we expect to be produced in Canada? • 35%-40%
Questions-”answered” • What would be the spatial (regional) distribution of that work? • Atlantic Canada 20% • Quebec 35% • Ontario 25% • Western Canada 20%
Questions-”answered” • What is our assessment of the role of Industry Canada in coordination? Are we competitors to IC? • We do not consider ourselves competitors, but are we collaborators?
Questions –”answered” • What is my assessment of Industry Canada approvals of Canadian Content Value?
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