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Background. We discuss mainly the plantations Why discuss an old project ? Can we really learn something from Bai Bang?. Bai Bang - Vietnam. 1980s. Fear of wood shortage Forest Inventory found only 30% of the plantations told to be available Many proposals for plantations
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Background Wediscussmainly the plantations Whydiscuss an old project? Canwereallylearnsomething from Bai Bang?
1980s • Fear of woodshortage • Forest Inventoryfoundonly 30% of the plantationstold to be available • Manyproposals for plantations • Crisis • Letter from embassy to the Ministryabout trial with intensive plantations • Trialsstarted
Conclusions • The woodshortagecrisiswas solved • The plantations a technicalsuccess • Limitedconflicts • Started by stateforestscompanies and co-operatives • Nowmostwood is produced by farmers • ????
Big companies and GovernmentAuthoritiescansucceedtechnically with plantations. Manyexamples. Butoften it ends up in conflicts and problems
Otherexamples of successes • South Africa- outsourcing • Malaysia- small scalerubberplantations • Bangladesh • Java • Kenya/Machakos • (John Spears)
REDD++ • Plans to reducedeforestation • Added ++ • Proposal to rehabilitate 1-2 billion ha with degradedland/forests • Butmanyplantationsfailtechnically and socially • Do wereallyhave the knowledge? • Can’t welearnsomething from BaiBang? • Can’t it be part of a narrative? • Proposal that rehabilitation of degraded land shouldbecome a Swedish speciality
??? Lessons ??? • BB established a market. Farmers becameinterested. • Local population becameinvolved • Mostpeople got something positive out of the plantations (or limitednegatativethings). Limited opposition (?) • Securetenureimportant • Securefoodproductionnecessary • Probablyeasiest (ifpossible) to work with individual farmers • Even farm forestrycan cause hardship for the poorest • There is a need for trust between different actors • Need for strong farmer organizations • Vietnam is a strong state