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TERENA & Grids a new role?

TERENA & Grids a new role?. Claudio Allocchio VP Technical Programme TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005. EGEE (2003 plan). The TEC, following last GA discussion and advice, believes it is a strategic move to belong to a project such as EGEE:

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TERENA & Grids a new role?

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  1. TERENA & Gridsa new role? Claudio Allocchio VP Technical Programme TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  2. EGEE (2003 plan) • The TEC, following last GA discussion and advice, believes it is a strategic move to belong to a project such as EGEE: • To help coordinating between Grid and NRENs communities (coordination and cross dissemination), with positive effects also on Campus issues • To create synergy for all other possible FP6 projects where TERENA is being contacted as dissemination partner TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  3. EGEE (current) TERENA, Dissemination (NA2) coordinator, with main tasks as: • Provide a lively, up to date and technically informative WEB site (entry point to EGEE) • Provide Mailing Lists • Preparation of printed material • Internal liaison between TERENA TF and project activities and Grid activities TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  4. EGEE YEAR 1 Resources (1 April 2004 – 31 March 2005) • Committed effort 36 pm • Delivered effort 35.957 pm • Jo Barnett 100% • Jim Buddin 100% • ITS and Mgmt 1 FTE in total • Income received : € 201,312 • Expenditure: € 444,106 TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  5. EGEE YEAR 1 Feedback (1 April 2004 – 31 March 2005) • TERENA did a very good job, which is widely appreciated both inside and outside EGEE • Raised profile of TERENA within EGEE / GRID community • Information flow to TERENA members has been sporadic • Resouce consuming with respect with expected "internal" information dissemination/fostering TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  6. How to make a proposal? (1) TERENA, Technical supervisor of collaboration among grid projects (including EGEE and the upcoming ones) activites, related TFs and NRENs • TERENA supports and helps the publicity dissemination activity, but somebody else take the leadership of this activity • Migrate from EGEE "publicity towards external world" into "dissemination/information exchange involving NRENs and other grid projects" (in or out?) • TF-EMC2, EUGridPMA, GGF and Internet2 collaborations TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  7. How to make a proposal? (2) TERENA should take the initiative to make the proposal change: • We are very good in bringing people/organizations together to exchange information and setup collaborations • We have seen, expecially from the GRID-NRENs workshop, where the live problems of grid projects (including EGEE) are, and we can seriously help in solving them • TERENA members need this information coming from grid community (including EGEE) to flow towards them and back to grid users TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  8. How to make a proposal? (3) TERENA How To? • establishing a sort of information exchage channel between TFs and related grid projects (old and new) working areas • promoting coordinated technical activites, like for example the establishment of an AAI which should be usable both by grid activites and by "normal" NRENs users (even if with different attributes...) • providing technical forum for joint meetings of the above (not the only ones) groups, etc... TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  9. How to make a proposal? (4) From "inside" or from "outside"? • The grid/NREN workshop is likely to exist anyhow • "outside" pros: • Less administrative work/management • Looks more "neutral" • … • "inside" pros: • Quicker access to information • Easier harvesting inside partners • … • Which political message do we want to send? TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  10. How to make a proposal? (5) TERENA How To if "inside" ? • Send the proposal to EGEE PMB via the Network Federation representative, with a very proactive role • Insist firmly on a 100% funded activity for this role, "or no activity at all" • When ? --> NOW ! TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  11. Further Future • … short term: workshops • … medium term: "cluster like" project covering all grid related projects? • How effective could it be? • Just "do it anyhow" ? • Discussion at October GA • These issues are INDIPENDENT of being in or out EGEE2 TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

  12. Discussion! • Do we agree on starting being a forum for Grid/NRENs info exchange and consensus building ? • Do we believe we should stay inside or outside EGEE2 for playing our NEW role ? TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005

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