Final Years Career Evening

1. Final Years Career Evening WMS Careers Group

2. Introduction • Who are we? • Student lead careers group • Existing members are from every year and even FY1 Drs (the founders!) • Liaise with Witty Sandle, careers advisor. • Why are we here? • So we all have access to the same information • To stop the “rumour mill”

3. So what is happening tonight? • Introducing Witty • Jargon busting • MTAS explained (Naomi T) • Foundation training in our Deanery (Mr. Higman) • Career pathways (what does the future hold??!) • Flexible training and training abroad (Dr Goodyear) • MPS talk • Meet some FY1 doctors.

4. Jargon Busting! • What is..? • Deanery: 17 deaneries in the UK and contain FS (some deaneries are FS) • Foundation School: Administrative centre for application. • MTAS • MMC • PMETB

5. Deaneries and FS in the UK • Northern Deanery: 1 (FS) • North West: 1 • Yorkshire: 2 • South Yorkshire and Humberside: 1 • Mersey: 1 • Trent: 1 • WMD: 5 • LNR: 1 • London: 5 • Eastern: 1 • Oxford: 1 • Severn and Wessex: 2 • South West Peninsula: 1 • Scotland: 1 • Northern Ireland: 1 • Wales: 1 = 26 foundation schools

6. Foundation Schools West Midlands deanery has 5: • Birmingham Northand South (Sandwell General, City, Good Hope and Birmingham Heartlands and Solihull, Selly Oak, Queen Elizabeth, Birmingham Women’s, Birmingham Children’s & The Royal Orthopaedic) • Black Country (Dudley, Walsall, Wolverhampton) • Coventry and Warwickshire (GEH, Walsgrave, Warwick, St Cross) • Shropshire and Staffordshire (Burton, North-staffs, Mid-staffs, Shrewsbury & Telford) • Herefordshire and Worcestershire (Hereford, Worcester Royal, Redditch Alexandra)

7. Importing or Exporting? • If exporting, produces more students than posts available e.g. London • If importing, not enough students produced to fill posts • Information will be available on MTAS website for each foundation school when we apply

8. Jargon Busting! • What is..? • Deanery: 17 deaneries in the UK and contain FS (some deaneries are FS) • Foundation School: Administrative centre for application. • MTAS • MMC • PMETB

9. MMC • Responsible for setting up the new career framework for doctors • Initiative started in 2003 in response to concerns about “lost tribes of SHOs” • The new career framework will be discussed in more detail later…..

10. PMETB • PMETB – Postgraduate Medical Education Training Board • Oversee all training of doctors after medical school • Major body putting foundation and specialist training in place • Allow for improved flexible training, overseas opportunities • ‘Control’ over doctors who are currently non-training posts • staff grades, associate specialists

11. Modernising medical careers: What comes after foundation years? Victoria Robinson and Theodora Vatopoulou

13. F.A.Qs • When do I apply for run through training? • During F2 (this year in Jan) • How does application work? • Centralised application, open competition • 2 specialties, 2 deaneries (this year) • Does it matter what I do in my foundation years? • NO! So don’t stress • But, being proactive in getting experience in your chosen field may help. • Where to royal college exams fit in? • Currently under debate • Discouraged in foundation years, may be needed later in training

14. Specialist training • Also called “run through training” • Most programmes will be initially broad-based (eg medicine), becoming more specialty focused over time (eg cardiology). • Every specialty will have a run-through training programme, lasting from approximately three years in general practice to five – seven years in other specialties.

15. Specialist Groups for initial 2 years run through training (ST1/2) • Acute Care Common Stem (ACCS) • Anaesthesia • Basic Neurosciences Training (BNT) • Chemical Pathology • General Practice • Histopathology • Medical Microbiology • Medicine in General • O&G • Ophthalmology • Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery (OMFS) • Paediatrics • Psychiatry • Public Health • Radiology • Surgery in General • Otolaryngology (ENT)* These are very likely to change before we get to this stage e.g. ENT!

16. So I want to do medicine….

18. Exceptions… • Acute care common stem. • Neurosciences (neurology, neurosurgery etc) Both start specialist training at end of F2.

19. So I want to be a GP… Application for GP training CCT F1 F2 VTS1 VTS2 VTS3 3x4month jobs hospital 2x3months hospital 6 months GP 1 year GP

20. What about general surgery? CCT MRCS Part 1 MRCS Part 2 F1, F2 ST1 ST2 ST3 number of years depends on specialty chosen (Probably 3-5 years) Competitive Entry Competitive Entry Career Posts Fixed Term Specialist Training

21. Academic Medicine • Not very clear yet • Not required for career progression. • All physicians in training will achieve generic skills in research. • If interested in an academic career you can compete for specific allocated research training posts when in BMT,ST and when in HST (medicine). • BMT and HST trainees (with deanery/college approval) can apply for time out of a programme to pursue funded research projects, but must return to complete training within a specified time.

22. Stay up to date!! • MMC website: www.mmc.nhs.uk • Links to all deaneries, info on application process, FY1 & FY2, • Royal college websites • MTAS website: www.mtas.nhs.uk • Student BMJ • See WMS career webpage • Follow link from societies page. Loads of info currently being uploaded. Watch that space!!

23. Future final year careers events • Friday 20th October:CSB (instead of SAHD) • 1-2pm Witty and Naomi to talk about the MTAS application process and what makes a good application. • 2-3pmDave Gow from MLP to talk about careers, a free book for everyone (and lots of money for the grad ball!) • Medical speciality evenings (TBA) all years • Acute medical evening (November 2006) • Women’s and child health (February 2007)

24. Thank-you!! • Guest speakers • Our sponsors • MPS • BMA • Warwick Medical School Development and Alumni Office • Medical school office (Mick and Jane)