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LEFIS WG2

LEFIS WG2. post-graduate courses. The situation before ‘Bologna’. graduate course with Dutch degree “Meester”, “Mr” (“ Master” ) Meester ≠ Master ≠ LLM !

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LEFIS WG2

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  1. LEFIS WG2 post-graduate courses

  2. The situation before ‘Bologna’ • graduate course with Dutch degree “Meester”, “Mr” (“Master”) • Meester ≠ Master ≠ LLM ! • Erasmus could (therefore) offer a postgraduate course with an LLM degree(sometimes in cooperation with foreign universities that were allowed to issue an LLM degree)

  3. The situation after ‘Bologna’ • graduate course with International degree “Master”, “LLM” • Master = LLM (= “Meester”) • the question (therefore) is: How to distinguish a postgraduate (Master) course from a graduate (Master) course

  4. Postgraduate/continuing education • postgraduate courses were chosen for short term topicalities or updates in the legal field, or for broadening the general legal knowledge with a particular legal discipline • at a certain point in time ‘continuing education’ became a topic (and an obligation from the bar for practising advocates) • so, ‘continuing education’ was chosen for short term topicalities or updates in the legal field, or for broadening the general legal knowledge with a particular legal discipline • postgraduate courses then became more substantial and would preferably give an LLM degree • the question is: How to distinguish postgraduate courses from ‘continuing education’

  5. Postgraduate objectives • substantiality • specialisation • ‘updates’ and ‘refreshment’ ? ‘continuing education’ • degree ?

  6. Postgraduate competences 1 • developments: • ‘Information technology’ society • market economy • the concept of ‘rationality’(‘calculating citizens’) • globalisation

  7. Postgraduate competences 2 • Information technology • business administration • economics • international law (> comparative law) • legal developments in the EU • legal developments in the US • legal developments in international organisations (e.g. WTO, WIPO, ITU etc.)

  8. Postgraduate curriculum 1 • The feeling is, this should be the general legal curriculum • But then again …that is a feeling we have for 20 years now

  9. In the meantime … 1 • “Management for lawyers” (Dutch program) • 10 months course • IT, statistics, management, • computer law (optional) • in cooperation with a HRM company in interim lawyers • the company could not supply > 10 lawyers • a desire for an LLM degree

  10. In the meantime … 2 • LLM Management and IT for Lawyers (International program in English) • 10 months course, 60 ects + dissertation • Compulsory • Computer Lab; Legal Information Management and Introduction to Statistics • Introduction to Management and Technology • Finance and Accounting • Computer Law • Communication and organisation skills • Legal knowledge management and jurimetrics • Operational, Marketing and Strategic Management • Law and Economics • only a few subscriptions, most of them from the Far East • discontinued for operational reasons after 2 years

  11. In the meantime … 3 • LLM Business and Trade Law (International program in English) • 10 months course, 62 ects + dissertation • Management and Law as a specialisation (since the ‘IT society’ means globalisation) • Compulsory • Private International Law • Company Law and Management • EC Competition Law • International Business Law • Business Statistics and Computer Lab • Finance and Accounting • Management (Operations, Marketing, Strategy) • Computer Law • Optional (1 course) • European Law (External Relations) • International Economic Law • still not to much subscriptions, (most of them from the Far East) • postgraduate QA positioning ?

  12. The future … • Learning from the LEFIS initiative • postgraduate QA positioning • Accreditation Organisation of The Netherlands and Flanders (NVAO) ? • Mundus recognition ? • LEFIS accreditation meeting in Beja • numbers, numbers, numbers … ?

  13. Thank you for your attention

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