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Rhetoric: for the win

Rhetoric: for the win. “Knowledge of the other arts has only to do with some sort of external action, as of the hand ; but there is no such action of the hand in rhetoric which works and takes effect only through the medium of discourse .” - Gorgias. What is rhetoric?.

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Rhetoric: for the win

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  1. Rhetoric: for the win “Knowledge of the other arts has only to do with some sort of external action, as of the hand ; but there is no such action of the hand in rhetoric which works and takes effect only through the medium of discourse.” -Gorgias

  2. What is rhetoric? • “I answer, Socrates, that rhetoric is the art of persuasion in courts of law and other assemblies, as I was just now saying, and about the just and unjust.”- Gorgias • Rhetoric is the artificer of persuasion

  3. Socrates • Socrates believes there are two types of Rhetoric • "…one part of it would be flattery, I suppose, and shameful public harangue” • “the other—that of getting the souls of the citizens to be as good as possible and of striving valiantly to say what is best, whether the audience will find it more pleasant or more unpleasant—is something admirable. “ • To Socrates, most rhetoric in practice is merely flattery.

  4. Gorgias • What is there greater than the word which persuades the judges in the courts, or the senators in the council, or the citizens in the assembly, or at any other political meeting ? • If you have the power of uttering this word, you will have the physician your slave, and the trainer your slave, and the money-maker of whom you talk will be found to gather treasures, not for himself, but for you who are able to speak and to persuade the multitude.

  5. Socrates • On the uses of rhetoric: “If rhetoric enables one to commit injustice with impunity, then rhetoric is useless or harmful.” • However, “One should use rhetoric to secure punishment for one’s unjust friends and freedom for one’s unjust enemies.” • Rhetoric is a double-sided sword, like almost anything else.

  6. “Rhetoric should be used like any other competitive art, not against everybody” • “They taught their art for a good purpose, to be used against enemies and evil-doers, in self-defense not in aggression” • The rhetorician ought not to abuse his strength

  7. Gorgias • “The rhetorician is a maker of beliefs in the souls of his auditors, and others like physicians can not do their job without him” • On several occasions I have been with my brother Herodicus or some other physician to see one of his patients, who would not allow the physician to give him medicine, or apply a knife or hot iron to him ; and I have persuaded him to do for me what he would not do for the physician just by the use of rhetoric

  8. “And in a contest with a man of any other profession the rhetorician more than any one would have the power of getting himself chosen, for he can speak more persuasively to the multitude than any of them, and on any subject. Such is the nature and power of the art of rhetoric” http://www.billslater.com/barack__obama.jpg

  9. WITHOUT RHETORIC?

  10. SOCRATES “I shall be tried just as a physician would be tried in a court of little boys at the indictment of the cook."

  11. “O my boys, many evil things has this man done to you : he is the death of you, especially of the younger ones among you, cutting and burning and starving and suffocating you, until you know not what to do ; he gives you the bitterest potions, and compels you to hunger and thirst. How unlike the variety of meats and sweets on which I feasted you !”

  12. What do you suppose that the physician would be able to reply when he found himself in such a predicament ?

  13. “He who could speak would be chosen if he wished ; and in a contest with a man of any other profession the rhetorician more than any one would have the power of getting himself chosen, for he can speak more persuasively to the multitude than any of them, and on any subject. Such is the nature and power of the art of rhetoric”

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