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Political Thinking POL 161 Crito. Erik Rankin – Fall 07. Crito - Plato. Where does this dialogue take place? What is Socrates doing? Who shows up? What does he tell Socrates his plan is? How does Socrates respond to this news?. Crito - Plato. How does Crito take this news?
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Political Thinking POL 161Crito Erik Rankin – Fall 07
Crito - Plato • Where does this dialogue take place? • What is Socrates doing? • Who shows up? • What does he tell Socrates his plan is? • How does Socrates respond to this news?
Crito - Plato • How does Crito take this news? • Crito begins to argue (practical, ethical) • What does Crito say will happen to Socrates friends if he is allowed to die? • Risk of financial cost? • Crito presses two more important arguments • What are they?
Crito - Plato • If Socrates stays he will be aiding his enemies • How? • What would this make Socrates? • Crito gets cheap and appeals to Socrates paternal instincts, how? • Crito has said his peace and it is Socrates turn to refute!
Crito - Plato • How does Socrates respond to the worry of public opinion? • Should they worry about what others think? • Socrates talks about the “part of us” that is harmed by unjust actions & benefited by just actions • What is this “part of us”? • He does say that this “part of us” is the most valuable and that life is not worth living if it is injured • Who should we listen to?
Crito - Plato • As far as justice goes, we should also ignore public opinion, but pay attention to who? • Crito says that even though the public may be ignorant, they still have power, how? • How does Socrates respond to that statement? • What is Socrates really concerned with? • Would an escape be honorable? • Socrates will only escape if it is just? The burden is to show how escape would be just
Crito - Plato • Socrates then goes on about the Laws of Athens • his reasoning for why it would be unjust to escape • Laws exist as a whole, to break one breaks all • Citizen is bound to laws like a child to a parent • Going against a law is like striking a parent • Laws suggest that the tie to country is stronger than family • How important is it then to respect laws of the country?
Crito - Plato • He uses the battle analogy, what is that? • If Socrates wants to avoid execution he must find the Laws to punish him unjustly, does he? • Fleeing would do what to the laws? • Laws as social contract • Choosing to live in Athens, endorses the Laws • If Socrates fled it would break the contract and make him actually guilty • Socrates has never left Athens, why?
Crito - Plato • Socrates feels that if he left he would be an outlaw • He would not just pay for that crime here, but where? • Why is this statement odd, given Meletus condemnation of Socrates? • Socrates convinces Crito that it would be better not to escape