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This document contains the agenda and proceedings of the November 2008 Mesh Meeting, focusing on the IEEE 802.11s Mesh Networking Task Group. It includes discussions on comment resolutions, subgroup formations, and other important announcements.
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November 2008Mesh Meeting Agenda Authors: Date: 2008-11-13 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
IEEE 802.11s:Mesh NetworkingTask Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Dallas, Texas 10-13 November, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) d3e3e3@gmail.com +1-508-634-2066 Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer (Philips) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Venue Dallas Hyatt Regency Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
General Flow of the TGs Meeting • Monday • Ad Hoc Meeting • Administrivia and Status • TGs Process Presentation • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Tuesday • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Wednesday • Security Presentations • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Thursday • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • TGs Process Discussion • Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200808:00– 09:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Call ad hoc meeting to Order • Miscellaneous Announcements • Selection of Secretary • Dee Denteneer • Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Approval of Agenda • Status of TGs Draft and Comment Resolutions • Draft D2.02 • “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r23 • The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed • The chair has, in email, asked the submitters of these three comments to withdraw them. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200808:00– 09:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • CIDs 71, 509, 1093, 1631, and 1719 which are currently resolved as Reject but with a blank Resolution Note. • Results of discussion are in 11-08/1316r1 “Fix up some Rejects” • Straw Poll: Interest in various subgroups for comment resolution? • MAC: 3 Security: 6 RFI: 5 General: 0 • Divide into three subgroups for ad hoc comment resolution as follows: • MAC – Guido Hiertz • Security – Jesse Walker • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Reconvene and Adjourn ad hoc meeting Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200816:00– 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Call meeting to Order • Miscellaneous Announcements • Selection of Secretary • Dee Denteneer • Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Approval of Agenda • Approval of Minutes: • Waikoloa meeting minutes: 11-08/1078r0 • Teleconference minutes: • September 17, 11-08/1195r0 • October 15, 11-08/1230r0 • Monday morning ad hoc minutes: 11-08/1320r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Miscellaneous Announcements • Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! • The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. • Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! • Individual membership • In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. • Photographs and Recordings • No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. • No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. • Media – Press and Analyst briefings • Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Important Stuff • Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. • Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html • Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf • IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html • IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt • Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform • All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: • “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents • “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents orpatent claims • “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) • The above does not apply if the patentclaim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group • Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 • Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged • No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Call for Potentially Essential Patents • If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: • Either speak up now or • Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or • Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. • --------------------------------------------------------------- • See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Automated Attendance Recording • Go to http://newton/11/attendance(Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) • Sign-in • Claim attendance credit for each session. • Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT“sign-in” for others. • You have to log in every session! • Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200816:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Status of TGs Draft and Comment Resolutions • Draft D2.02 • “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r23 • The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed • The chair has, in email, asked the submitters of these three comments to withdraw them. • Presentation and Discussion on Process • “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1326r0 • Presentations: • “SAE Cleanup”, 11-08/1264r0, Dan Harkins Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200816:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Straw Poll: Interest in subgroups for comment resolution? • MAC: 6 Security: 8 RFI: 1 General: 1 • Divide into subgroups for comment resolution: • MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda • Security – Jesse Walker • Reconvene group. • Moved, To adopt the changes to the draft in 11-08/1264r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Malik Audeh Seconded: Jesse Walker • Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) • Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200819:30 – 21:30 • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to amend the comment resolutions adopted by the 2nd motion on Slide 34 of 11-08/935r14 by replacing occurrences of “11-08/yyyyr0” in the Resolution Notes with “11-08/1104r0”. • Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Dee Denteneer • Adopted by unanimous consent • Moved, to adopt all comment resolutions in 11-08/493r23 with Resolution Status (column P) = “Open” and Resolution Code (column V) = “Accept” or “Counter” and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Michael Bahr Seconded: Dee Denteneer • Yes: 12 No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Monday, 10 November 200819:30 – 21:30 • Moved, to adopt the motion in 11-08/1316r1 “Fix up some Rejects” changing 5 resolutions in the comment resolution spread sheet. • Moved: Michael Bahr Seconded: Malik Audeh • Yes: 14 No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) • “Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgrous? • MAC: 5 Security: 1 RFI: 5 General: 1 • Divide into subgroups: • MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Reconvene and recess until Tuesday 10:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200810:30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Announcement of 11-08/493r24 • Incorporates motions passed yesterday and has 44 lines with resolution updates from yesterday which, if adopted, would close 34 comments. • Presentations: • “Selection of a Mesh Security Protocol using the Mesh Profile”, 11-08/1338r0, Steve Emeott • Straw Poll: Are you interested in adding a mesh security protocol identifier to the mesh profile? • Yes: 9 No: 0 Don’t Know: 11 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200810:30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room) • “Avoiding Interactions with Lazy-WDS Equipment”, 11-08/278r5, Javier Cardona • “3-Address Mesh Broadcast Frames”, 11-08/383r2, Javier Cardona • Straw Poll: Are you in favor of the Draft changes in 11-08/383r2? • Yes: 12 No: 0 • Chair announced: Number of comments with a blank Resolution Code in 11-08/493r24: • General: 1 MAC: 37 RFI: 19 Security: 0 • Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgroups? • MAC: 7 RFI: 4 Security: 3 General: 1 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200810:30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Divide into subgroups for comment resolution: • MAC – Guido Hiertz • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Security – Donald Eastlake • Recombine and recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200813:30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/493r24 with Column X not blank except that for CIDs 10 and 1149, the Resolution Code is changed to Defer, and direct the Editor to incorporate the Accept and Counter resolutions into the Draft. • Moved: Kazuyuki Sakoda Seconded: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200813:30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Presentations • “Resolving some SAE comments”, 11-08/1355r2, Dan Harkins • “Simple Improvement for EDCA Usage in 802.11s”, 11-08/1357r9, Guido Hiertz • Straw Poll: Are you interested in seeing normative text for the basic concept presented in 11-08/1357r9? • Yes: 8 No: 1 Befuddled or Don’t Know: 0 • Divide into subgroups for comment resolution: • MAC – Guido Hiertz • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Security – Jesse Walker • Reconvene and recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200819:30 – 21:30 (Parlor 362) • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-08/383r2 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft resolving CIDs 845, 961, and 1011 with Accept. • Moved: Javier Cardona Seconded: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 7 No: 0 Abstain: 2 • The group worked on material for the TGs Closing Report. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Tuesday, 11 November 200819:30 – 21:30 (Parlor 362) • Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgroups: • Mac: 2 RFI: 1 Security: 0 General: 1 • Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200808:00 – 10:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • The Chair announced the availability of 11-08/493r25. • r25 has 42 more comments closed due to motions passed yesterday. That’s a total of 79 closed so far this week. • Security Presentations • “November PLM Comment Resolutions”, 11-08/1270r2, “Updates on PLM Text”, 11-08/1269r1, Jesse Walker • “Mesh Key Distribution Proposal”, 11-081296r0, Jesse Walker Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200808:00 – 10:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Security Presentations (cont.) • “Upgrades to MSA to support multiple MKD”, 11-08/1361r0, Tony Braskich • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200813:30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Security Presentations (cont.) • Discussion of 11-08/1361r0 • “A Modest Proposal”, 11-08/1263r0, Dan Harkins • Straw Poll: Should the centralized mesh option be removed from the draft? • Yes: 11 No: 8 Unable to make an opinion either way: 4 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200813:30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/493r25 with Column X non-blank except CID 532 and direct the Editor to incorporate those with Resolution Code of “Accept” or “Counter” into the Draft. • Moved: Jesse Walker Seconded: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 16 No: 0 Abstain: 4 (passes > ¾) • Presentations • 11-08/798r5, “HT Features in 11s Mesh Network”, 11-08/1258r5, Liwen Chu • “Sync related comment resolution text”, 11-08/1324r2, Kazuyuki Sakoda Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200813:30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Presentations (cont.) • “Channel switch across the regulatory class comment resolution”, 11-08/1370r0, Kazuyuki Skoda. • “Resolving some SAE comments”, 11-08/1355r3, Dan Harkins • Moved, to adopt the changes to the Draft in 11-08/1355r3, direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft, and resolve comments as indicated in the submission. • Moved: Jesse Walker Seconded: Malik Audeh • Yes: 12 No: 0 Abstain: 3 • Preparation of “TGs Dallas Closing Report”, 11-08/1369r0, Donald Eastlake Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200813:30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) • Presentations (cont.) • “MDA Comment Resolution”, 11-08/1401r0 (Word 11-08/1384r0, Excel 11-08/1387r1, Dee Denteneer • “QoS STA function applies to Mesh STA”, 11-08/1416r0 (Word 11-08/1415r0), Youko Omori • Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200816:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to adopt the Draft changes in 11-08/1269r3 (“Updated Text for Peer Link Management Protocol”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft resolving several comments as shown in 11-08/1270r3 except for CID 532. • Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Malik Audeh • Yes: 10 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) • Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgroups: • MAC: 4 RFI: 3 Security: 0 General: 2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Wednesday, 12 November 200816:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Divide into subgroups for Comment Resolution: • MAC – Guido Hiertz • RFI – Javier Cardona / Michael Bahr • Reconvene and recess until 16:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Call Meeting to Order • Selection of Secretary • Malik Audeh • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • CID 532 was accidentally updated in 11-08/493r26. It will be changed back to its state as shown in 11-08/493r24. • Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-08/1324r2 (“Sync related comment resolution text”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Drafts, resolving the CIDs listed in the Abstract with “Counter”. • Moved: Guido Hiertz Seconded: Jesse Walker • Yes: 14 No: 0 Abstain: 3 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-08/1370r1 (“Channel switch across the regulatory class comment resolution”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft, resolving the CID 995 with “Counter”. • Moved: Guido Hiertz Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda • Yes: 13 No: 0 Abstain: 4 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-08/1384r0 (“MDA normative text revision”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft, resolving CIDs as indicated in 11-08/1387r1. • Moved: Guido Hiertz Seconded: Steve Emeott • Yes: 14 No: 0 Abstain: 3 (passes > ¾) • Moved, to amend the comment resolution for CID 465 changing the Resolution Code from “Reject” to “Counter” and changing the Resolution Note to “See 11-08/799r2”. • Moved: Guido Hiertz Seconded: Tony Braskich • Yes: 14 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/493r26 with column X non-blank, except CIDs 525 and 1092, and direct the Editor to incorporate those with Resolution Code of “Accept” or “Counter” into the Draft. • Moved: Jesse Walker Seconded: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 15 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > 3/4) • Moved, to adopt the Draft changes in 11-08/1415r2 (“Text Changes for QoS STA function applied to Mesh STA”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft resolving CIDs 362, 1187, 1486, 1495, 1496, and 1186 with “Counter”. • Moved: Youko Omori Seconded: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 12 No: 0 Abstain: 5 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Moved, to adopt the editorial Draft changes in 11-08/1414r1 (“Figures for Flags fields in HWMP and Proxy IEs”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft resolving CIDs 1388, 1548, 595, 1389, 1549, 1856, 1390, and 1552 with Resolution Code “Counter” and Resolution Note “Comment accepted, implement resolution as given in 11-08/1414r1”. • Moved: Malik Audeh Seconded: Steve Emeott • Yes: 15 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > ¾) • Moved, to adopt the editorial Draft changes in 11-08/1413r0 (“Editorial Fixes for Key Holder Communication Protocols”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Tony Brasich Seconded: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 16 No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Moved, to adopt the Draft changes in 11-08/1258r6 (“HT Features in 11s MBSS”) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. • Moved: Kazuyuki Sakoda Seconded: Liwen Chu • Yes: 15 No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) • Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. • Adopted by unanimous consent. • Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences • “TGs Process, November”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1326r1 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences (cont.) • Ad hoc 14-16 January? • Straw Poll: How many would likely attend? • Response: 1 • Teleconferences: • 2008: Dec 3, 17 • 2009: Jan 7, Feb 4, 18, Mar 4 • Straw Poll: What time? • 10:00: 3 17:00: 6 • Moved, to hold teleconferences at 17:00 US Eastern Time on December 3, 17, January 7, February 4, 18, and March 4 for up to 90 minutes to discuss comment resolution and meeting agendas. • Adopted by unanimous consent Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) • Preparation of “TGs Dallas Closing Report”, 11-08/1369r0, Donald Eastlake • Other Technical Presentations • “Current status of project open80211s”, Javier Cardona, 11-08/1313r0. • Adjourn sine die • TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
[Reference Information] • Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. • Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. • Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: • 11-08/493r27: Resolution of Letter Ballot #126 Comments • TGs Technical Editors: • Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) • Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 through D2.02 • Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 • W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08(also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
[Earlier Meeting Minutes] • Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes • September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 • September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 • July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 • May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 • May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 • March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 • January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 • November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 • September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 • September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 • July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 • June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 • Recent Teleconference Minutes • July 23, Aug 6, Aug 20, 11-08/936r0, 11-08/960r0, 11-08/989r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola