The Path Towards the PAHN- PaN Proposal

1. The Path Towards thePAHN-PaN Proposal Timeline, next steps, discussion items Thomas Schörner-Sadenius DESY, 22/23 August 2019

2. Outline Overall timeline Proposal – organisationissues Mapping oftaskareasandcross-cuttingtopicstotemplatestructure Governanceand organisational structure Parallel sessionsfortaskareasandcross-cuttingtopics – tasksandquestions AOB (web page, mailinglists, nextmeeting(s)…) PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

3. ~100p Overall Timeline We are working on a tight schedule Sept. October July August May June March April Extended abstract 29 March LoIsubmission 4 July Proposalsubmission 15 Oct GSIWS DESYWS WS? 9p 6p PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

4. Proposal Template And how to tackle it „Easy“? Add CCT3 „Education“ aspoint 2.7? Difficult? 3.3 correspondsto CCTs „Synergies“and „Services“? Easy? Hard! Everybody! PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

5. Governance and Organisation Of the PAHN-PaN consortium – as described in LoI  tomorrow? (seeroughideas in LoI)  CCTs bundleandexploitresultsof TAs andmakethemavailableasserviceswithin/outside PAHN-PaN „Synergies“ aspathfinder  Proper workdone In TAs 1-4 PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

6. TA and CCT Convernors For reference • Management team: • A. Haungs (KIT), TSS (DESY), K. Schwarz (GSI), C. Wissing (DESY) • Task area 1 Developing workflows and tools for data management: A. Heiss(KIT), C. Wissing (DESY) • Task area 2 FAIR data management infrastructures and open data: A. Haungs (KIT), K. Schwarz (GSI) • Task area 3 Data analysis procedures and services: T. Kuhr(LMU), G. Kasieczka(UHH) • Task area 4 Online analysis and data reduction: Wolfgang Rhode (Dortmund), A. Redelbach (FIAS) • Cross-cutting A: Synergies, knowledge transfer and collaboration: G. Duckeck (LMU), T. Schörner (DESY) • Cross-cutting B: Services: C. Wissing (DESY), K. Schwarz (GSI) • Cross-cutting C: Training, education, outreach: A. Quadt (Goettingen), Kevin Kröninger(Dortmund) • (too) few main players from (too) few institutions • Not all communities equally well represented • Need watchful eyes on contributions to developing text from all PAHN-PaN partners PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

7. Parellel Sessions Task areas and cross-cutting topics – questions and issues to keep in mind • Today: TA 1-4 parallel sessions: Convenorsreviewedthe material providedbyyouandorganisedby Christoph. Goals fortodayandtomorrow (myview): • Agree on workpackageswithineach TA andstartdefiningdeliverables, with a viewtoprovidingservicesandenablingstructures (seenextslide) • Developfeelingfor FTE requestsituationanddistributionofpersonnel (normalisationtbd – seenextslide) • Defineclearpathtotextfor TA withclearresponsibilities • Report in on yourfindings in today‘sconcludingplenarysession • Tomorrow: CCTs A-C (probablycombining „Synergies“ and „Structuresand Services“?) • Agree on roughcontentofproposaltextand on strategy • FTE requests? (personal feeling: no) • Defineclearresponsibilitiesforproposaltext PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

8. Parellel Sessions Guiding questions • Who isourcommunity – whyshould DFG sponsorthisspecificactivityforthisspecificcrowdofpeople? • Differencesofourneedsandrequests (e.g in datamanagement) toothercommunities / consortia? • Whatistheaddedvalue (in 5-10 years) • Forourcommunities? • Forthesciencelandscape in Germany in general? • Whatare potential services (orstructures) thatthe TA coulddevelopandthat PAHN-PaNcouldprovide? • Whatcanwecontributetothelandscapeofscientificcomputing in 5 or 10 years? • Connection / relationtoother initiatives (ErUM-Data, European landscape, Helmholtz Matter&Technologies DMA topic…)? See followingshortcontributionby W. Ehrenfeld (DESY-PT) PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

9. Overview of Requests Personnel requests as of today • Realistic: Request net 4 MEUR or ~50 positions? But betterretainflexibility(retainsomefundsforannual/bi-annualdistribution, fundsforparticipants, …) • Not contained: admin (Helmholtz?) • Imbalanceoftaskareas – TA 4 isverysmall (but interestofAstroNFDI?) • FTE requests also forcross-cuttingtopics? • Hopingforstreamlining / bundling / rejectingof (certain, sub-critical) requests. •  Discuss on Friday! Personal view: requestscanonlybeindicative. Final disitrbutionofmoneyby PAHN-PaNmanagement. PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

10. Other Questions, Issues, Todo Items For discussion • Mailing lists • Pahnpan-management@desy.de • Pahnpan-nfdi@desy.de „everybody“ • Pahnpan-loi@desy.de obsolete • Pahnpan-contact@desy.de  forexternalcontactrequests • Pahnpan-proposal@desy.de  proposalauthorteam • Pahnpan-spokes@desy.de (?)  tobecreated? • Mailing listsforgoverningbodiesonceconsortiumestablished • Web page: www.pahnpan.de • Tobefilledwithlife • Login pahnnfdi (passwdlater) • Next meeting • 18/19 Sep? • 25/26 Sep? • At Kassel Intercity station? • Beforeand after phoneconferencesofauthorteam? PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

11. Other Questions, Issues, Todo Items For discussion Consortium Board (CB): general governing body; a consortium parliament with one representative and one vote per applicant or co-applicant institution. The consortium participants have a right to be heard in the Consortium Board. The Consortium Board defines the objectives, strategy and structure of the consortium and selects the PAHN-PaN Project Manager and the other members of the Management Board as well as the task area leaders of task areas 1-4 and of the cross-cutting topics A-C. Scientific Advisory Board (SAB) supports CB; composed of experts from the field of scientific computing in different communities that discuss the overall scientific orientation of PAHN-PaN. In the SAB, care is taken to particularly represent the views of our international collaborators Cross-Community Cooperation Board (CCCB)} is composed of members from PAHN-PaN and from other consortia. Its task is to make sure that PAHN-PaN and neighbouring consortia are in constant exchange and complement each other in their efforts. The CCCB in particular supervises and guides the concrete synergetic actions of the cross-cutting topics (A-C). Management Board (MB) handles day-to-day business; composed of one Project Manager (PM) and a number of board members. These are selected by the CB. The task of the MB is to organise the consortium internally and in its administrative affairs with the outside world. PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

12. Other Questions, Issues, Todo Items For discussion • Governanceandmanagementstructure • Discuss on Friday? • Work on proposal • Overleaf / sharelatex • Access needstobegrantedby TSS • Suggestion: Only TA / CCT convenorsgetwriteaccess. Theycollectandorganiseinputfortheirworkpackages • Management providesregularPDF versions in internal web pagearea(credentialstobeprovidedsoon) • More authorsespforcentral / generictextpartswelcome. • Letters ofcommitment • Tobeprovidedbyeachco-applicantandparticipant • Template will follow earlynextweek • Password protectionfor INDICO page? PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

13. Agenda and Rooms https://indico.desy.de/indico/event/23791/ PAHN-PaN: Towards the proposal | 22 Aug 2019 | TSS

14. Thankyou Thomas Schörner-Sadenius DESY FM / CMS E-Mail: thomas.schoerner@desy.de Phone: +49 40 8998 3429

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