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Other orgs/walled garden Need dialogue with WAPF, MWIF, 3GPP[2], 3G.IP[2] Identify formal liaisons if needed as last resort, encourage IETF WG participation, arrange document sharing & mutual review Mutual education / documentation on lessons learned Understand each other’s problems
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Other orgs/walled garden • Need dialogue with WAPF, MWIF, 3GPP[2], 3G.IP[2] • Identify formal liaisons if needed as last resort, encourage IETF WG participation, arrange document sharing & mutual review • Mutual education / documentation on lessons learned • Understand each other’s problems • Identify IETF work items and dependencies on other orgs’ specs • WG charters to include liaison reqts • Walled gardens have perceived benefits for consumer (security, ease of use) and carrier (captive customer). Similar to Intranets & hard to eliminate. Lost transparency. • Roaming between walled gardens? Trust models? Legal/social issues • Need a more general way of escaping the walled garden than Foo over HTTP. Try using IP? • Need for generic proxy discovery mechanism (find the garden door)