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Studying in Germany

Studying in Germany. A Presentation by Volker Hellemanns on 15th October 2004 at BME Xi´an Jiaotong University. Part 1 Education System in Germany Part 2 My University: „FH Lübeck“ Part 3 Typical Living Conditions. Part 1 The Education System in Germany. Overview - School.

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Studying in Germany

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  1. Studying in Germany A Presentation by Volker Hellemanns on 15th October 2004 at BME Xi´an Jiaotong University

  2. Part 1 Education System in Germany Part 2 My University: „FH Lübeck“ Part 3 Typical Living Conditions

  3. Part 1The Education System in Germany

  4. Overview - School Kindergarden Age 1…6 Elementary School Age …10 Low Major School Age …15 Middle Secondary School Age …16 High High School Age …19

  5. Age of 3, sometimes at 1 Costs: 50…350 Euro per month From 7am…6pm, help for working parents There is no right to get a place there They learn: Socializing (cooking...) Nature experience (trees, plants ,animals) Technical experience (working with tools...) Business experience (counting apples...) Kindergarden

  6. Age of 6…10 Costs: Free From 8…11am Every Child MUST go They learn: Reading, Writing Simple Mathematics Nature experience (plants ,animals) Working with wood, wool… Elementary School

  7. After Elementary School Teacher gives Recommendation Major School(5 years) Secondary School(6 years) High School(9 years) Selection through Evaluation

  8. Finished after 9th class, free, school duty ends add 1 year school: Secondary School Certificate only possible with good marks OR Learning a Job in a Company (3.5 years) + Going to School (Technical, Art or Business) OR after 3 years of fulltime school Advanced College Certificate: Academy Major School

  9. Finished after 10th class, free Add 3 year school: High School Certificate only possible with good marks OR Learning a Job in a Company (2…3 years) + Going to School (Technical, Art or Business) OR After 2 years of fulltime school Advanced College Certificate: Academy Secondary School

  10. Finished after 13th class, free High School Certificate (Abitur) Permission for Academy or University Some choose instead learning a Job for (2…3 years) BUT: they have again go to school (specialized) Example: Learn banking business in a bank Then study business at university High School

  11. Men only, age 18…30 Mostly after job training, before university For 9 months Alternative: Social Service (longer) Woman: voluntary social year Past: everyone Present: 50 % Future: none, professional army Military Service

  12. The Way to University Low Major School Middle Secondary School High High School Advanced College (3 years) • Low • Academy • Master • FH-Diplom • High • University • Master • Diplom • Promotion (Dr.)

  13. University 5…6 years More theoretical, deeper knowledge Less laboratory work 4- 5 examinations in the semester holidays Big classes (50…200 students) Professors do not care about understanding Promotion (Dr.) possible Academy vs. University

  14. Academy 4 years More practicals becoming more popular in industry, but less salary 12 week internship, practical semester Much laboratory work 8…10 exams in two weeks Small classes (1…20 students) Professors care about understanding

  15. Part 2My University: „FH Lübeck“

  16. Is that really Lübeck ?

  17. Lübeck has 230.000 citizens FHL has 2000 Students (all 6000) „FH-Diplom“ certificate In a few years there will only be masters University of Applied Sciences

  18. View from above

  19. Map of open „Campus“

  20. One Canteen for all

  21. Nature is near (now…)

  22. September - January March - July Most classes: 8am … 1pm sometimes until 5/7 pm Never at the weekend (Saturday ?) Otherwise nobody would attend…  Time Schedule

  23. Timetable: allows to finish in given time (8 Semesters) almost impossible fast: bad marks slow: good marks Every student can make his personal time table and can decide if he goes to a class or not. Caution with small classes ! Personal Time Schedule

  24. Applied Sciences: Medical Engineering Biomedical E. (BMT) Quality and Security E. (QST) Construction of Medical Devices (EMG) Physics Chemistry Microsystem E. Enviromental E. Electrical E. Business/Mechanical E. Civil E. Subjects

  25. Study Plan for Biomed. E. before: 12 Weeks in a company for internship 1st Half: 3 Semester • Basic subject groups: • Mathematics • Physics • Chemistry • Electronics • Engineering • Basics (Medicine…) • Non technical subjects (English, Business) • Classes: 27+25+26 h/week • Practical laboratory work: 5+4+2 h/week

  26. 2nd Half: • 3 Semester Classes 1 Practical semester in a company 1 Semester for Thesis • Deepening the Knowledge Chose - Specialization (BMT, QST, EMG) - extra classes out of 32 • Classes: 27+21+21 h/week • Practical laboratory work: 2+7+7 h/week

  27. 26 Exams (unlimited Tries) 21 Exams (3 Tries) 9 „Laboratory Classes“ Each: about 6 experiments a 10 pages Total: over 500 pages of reports VERY time consuming, correction… Summary

  28. Rewarded for joining (Honor, Bafög) Student Parliament Elected every year, 19 students, sets in AStA AStA (common student committee) Representation of needs of Students in university, political oranisation/work, social and financial matters Fachschaft Concrete work like Organizing Parties Excursions to companies Fighting unfair treatment Student Organisations

  29. Biomed. E. at FHL 100% fail in at least one exam 90% fail staying in given study time 50% do not finish Academy, University together 30…50% will get no degree at all Failure Rates

  30. Part 3Typical Living Conditions

  31. Semester Fee to AStA (100 euro/semester) Bus ticket included ! 500 euro/month (just enough) 200 Apartment, outside more expensive 150 simple food, no restaurant 150 books, clothes, recreational activities Financial Stuff

  32. Most difficult to find No right to live in university´s dormitories Place for 10 % of students 150…300 euro/month Typical: 2 room apartment in official student dormitories, two single rooms, kitchen, bathroom Apartment

  33. Train Ticket to Hamburg (70km) One way: 10 euro Subwayticket: 7 euro 0,3l Beer in a bar: 3…6 euro Restaurant, one person: 15 euro A pair of jeans, shos: 35 euro Study books: 20…100 euro High Living Costs

  34. No: Bafög, up to 500 euro/month goverment credit for less wealthy students, must be paid back for 50% when working later, everyone can study (it will change…) But: one must stay in the given time schedule, otherwise: no more money Long time students or those who enjoy life very much (parties, car…) always work Is a Student Job nessecary ?

  35. Thank you for listening ! Any Questions ?

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