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Welcome to. Passport to P. Eng. Passport to P. Eng. For Engineers on their Path to the Profession (Canadian and Internationally Trained, including E.I.T.s) . Hosted by the Hamilton-Burlington Chapter Professional Engineers Ontario Burlington Art Centre
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Welcome to . . . Passport to P. Eng.
Passport to P. Eng. For Engineers on their Path to the Profession (Canadian and Internationally Trained, including E.I.T.s)
Hosted by the Hamilton-Burlington Chapter Professional Engineers Ontario Burlington Art Centre 1333 Lakeshore Road, Burlington Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:30 P.M. to 8:00 P.M. The Hamilton-Burlington Chapter is presenting its fourth informal evening as part of its initiative to ease the task of engineers, particularly internationally trained engineers, wishing to obtain a licence to practice in Ontario. Prospective Professional Engineers are welcome to attend. Attendees should be graduates of an Engineering discipline from a university or equivalent. The program includes Membership Requirements Overview, Perspectives from Canadian and Internationally Trained Engineers & EITs, Resources, Common & Specific Questions, and Round Table discussions with our Chapter Members.
Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00 Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45 Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00 Summary & Closing Remarks
Welcome and Introductions Hamilton-Burlington Chapter Board and Executive members Your hosts are: Raj Jain, P. Eng. Bob Loree, P. Eng. Web site Contacts
Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00 Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45 Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00 Summary & Closing Remarks
Membership Requirements - Overview Overview of the process for licensing:1. Follow the steps, outlines, guidelines2. Get a coach, advocate, mentor3. KEEP RECORDS WITH NOTES, NAMES, DATES4. Talk with friends5. Establish a network for support
Membership Requirements - Canada Engineers Canadais the national organization of the 12 provincial and territorial associations that regulate the practice of engineering in Canada and license the country's more than 160,000 professional engineers. Canada
Membership Requirements - Ontario • PEO: Role & Function • - a self-regulating body for Professional Engineers- to regulate and set standards • for the province of Ontario • To serve and protect the public interest • [ Public safety and welfare ] • through Admissions (the right to practice), Discipline and Enforcement PEO
Membership Requirements - Definition Practice of Professional EngineeringAny act of designing, composing, evaluating, advising, reporting, directing or supervising; wherein the safeguarding of life, health, property or the public welfare is concerned; that requires the application of engineering principles (does not include practicing as a natural scientist).
Membership Requirements - Licensing • Licensing Requirements • • Acceptable engineering education • Professional Practice Examination • Good character • References • 48 months engineering experience • 12 months of acceptable engineering experience in Canada Requirements
Membership Requirements - Steps Licensing Steps Process
Membership Requirements - note In order to submit an application form and begin the licensing process you only need to meet PEO’s minimum education requirements. All other licensing requirements can be met after you submit an application
Membership Requirements – Application Attachments Attachments(Section 11 – then pages 4 & 9) Transcripts & Diplomas Course descriptions Record of landing or Canadian Citizenship Engineering Experience summary (see Guide) Forms
Membership Requirements - Education • Education Requirements • CEAB graduates • No technical examinations – only PPE • Non- CEAB Engineering programs • Confirmatory Examination Program + PPE • Other education • Specific Examination Program + PPE Education CEAB CEAB - PEO
Membership Requirements Education If you do not have an undergraduate degree in engineering from a program accredited by the CEAB, your academic background will be assessed by PEO to determine whether it is equivalent to the established standards.
Membership Requirements - Education PEO will assign technical exams to give you an opportunity to confirm that your academic preparation is equivalent (Confirmatory Examination Program) or to remedy any identified deficiencies (Specific Examination Program) Education Technical
Membership Requirements – Education notes Applicants should be comfortable and confident with the application and process. 1. Spend time on the PEO web site examining their documents to determine exactly what is required of you
Membership Requirements – Education notes 2. Be proactive with respect to academic and experience requirements: (a) carefully document all components yourself(b) avoid simply turning over your files & allowing someone else to decide what you learned and experienced
Membership Requirements – Education notes 3. If your Academic Requirements are not “CEAB approved”(a) demonstrate that you have satisfied the academic requirements(b) compare with an accredited Canadian program similar to yours - course by course, topic by topic
Membership Requirements – Education notes (c) note everything you completed plus any additional work, courses, projects with respect to CEAB(d) note equivalency and extras in your courses and programs(e) put in a table if possible – make it easy for someone to evaluate your program
Membership Requirements – Education notes 4. Your goal is to avoid extra exams in topics and courses you have successfully completed
Membership Requirements - PPE Professional Practice Exam (PPE) A 3-hour, closed-book exam on ethics, professional practice, engineering law and liability, written after Education Requirements are met. Applicants may seek additional resources on the internet using their preferred search engine using: professional practice exam PEO PPE PPE
Membership Requirements - Experience Experience Requirements The 5 Required Elements are: Application of theory Practical experience Management of engineering Communication skills Social implications of engineering Guide
Membership Requirements - Experience Pre-Graduation Experience Pre-Grad
Membership Requirements – Experience notes Experience Records should:1. Detail your engineering work 2. Describe your projects and roles you played 3. Indicate the nature of the problems solved, the designs performed, factors considered 4. Specifically identify the engineering you did 5. Use ‘first person’ … “I” instead of “we” and “I calculated” instead of “It was calculated” 6. Use ‘action’ verbs . . . such as “designed”, “analyzed”, “presented”, “controlled”
Membership Requirements – Experience notes Experience Records – at any stage of your career - should be totally prepared . . . Don't leave anything to PEO that you can do yourself - have it all coveredYou want their responses to be 'yes' or 'maybe' ..... not 'no'
Membership Requirements – Experience notes Talk with your employer, supervisor, manager, colleagues, associates on a regular basisDocument all of your work with special attention to your roles & contributions
Membership Requirements – Experience notes Carefully check the 5 required elements and your work related to them regularly – at least every 3 monthsCreate a summary of everything you have done in these 5 areas – and discuss with a supervisory P. Eng. and have him/her sign it Application of theory Practical experience Management of engineering Communication skills Social implications of engineering
Membership Requirements – Experience notes Note dates, names, places, projects, details, evaluations, etc.Ask your P. Eng. supervisor for letters of reference (write the outline yourself noting your strengths and accomplishments) on a regular basis – these could coincide with reviews, evaluations and other work determined events (e.g. the successful completion of a team or individual project) Experience
Membership Requirements - notes Develop your own set of Experience records - using the Experience Guide - using the EIT checklist - using samples as guidelines such as those on the “Path2PEng” web site created by Bob Loree in 2008 for the Hamilton-Burlington Chapter, SISO and others Experience checklist Path2PEng
Membership Requirements - notes Some additional considerations are: 1. Other Licences2. Exam Waiving Options (Academic Requirements Committee) (ARC) 3. Interviews Experience Requirements Committee) (ERC) 4. Experience - Master’s or PhD degrees 5. Experience - Applied Research Licences ERC
Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00 Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45 Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00 Summary & Closing Remarks
Canadian Trained Perspective Graduate from accredited programs. Usually with key ‘engineering’ courses taught by professional engineers.Usually with a full course, or equivalent, in Engineering Ethics and/or Engineers in Society
Canadian Trained Perspective Likely have some workplace experiences in work terms, co-op placements or Internships Probably have developed a network of contacts for employment Should have a realistic view of the profession and its related opportunities
Canadian Trained Perspective A relatively small number choose to apply for a licence – the Iron Ring seems to be fairly satisfying and sufficient Usually have an education debt to pay, want value for their dollar and will wait to see if a licence is ‘worth it’
Canadian Trained Perspective Many have additional career options – related to the diverse choices of degree programs … such as Bio Engineering, Management, Society, minor programs Many combine their engineering knowledge and skills with other interests such as music, writing, sports, business, recreation, family businesses, entrepreneurial endeavours
Canadian Trained Perspective They are willing to take their time and also, generally apathetic toward licensing
Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00 Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45 Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00 Summary & Closing Remarks
Internationally Trained Perspective Engineers come to Canada from around the world. Three common experiences are: 1 – finding a place to live 2 – finding an Engineering job 3 – finding assistance with everyday life
Internationally Trained Perspective Three common issues are: 1 – licensing process 2 – academic records 3 – experience records
Internationally Trained Perspective Suggestions for your Path to P. Eng. are: 1 – how/where to look for employment 2 – resumes/cover letters 3 – education opportunities 4 – market trends, developing contacts 5 – volunteer, network, business card 6 – organizations, events
Internationally Trained Perspective Provisional Licence Concern: No Canadian experience Could be issued if all licensing requirements were met except the 12 months of acceptable engineering experience in Canada under the supervision of a licensed professional engineer
Internationally Trained Perspective • Special features that might help in your career: • your primary language • foreign design code / standard • experience different cultures • global knowledge • having lived in various countries • being flexible, adaptable
Internationally Trained Perspective • Familiarize with: • Engineers Canada and Professional engineering associations of other Canadian provinces / territories • PEO Guideline on Human Rights • Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms • Employment Standards Act
Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00 Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45 Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00 Summary & Closing Remarks
EIT Perspective 1. The EIT program endeavours to help candidates ensure that they are obtaining acceptable experience 2. The EIT program does not place people in work situations 3. Engineering Interns have the opportunity to participate in Chapter activities 4. You don't have to enrol in the EIT program on your Path to P. Eng.
EIT Perspective If you are a non-CEAB graduate there are conditions: A) enrol after assigned CEPCEP = Confirmatory Exam Programor B) enrol after completed SEP SEP = Specific Exam Program