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Your patient. A 39 year-old female comes in to the emergency room with a chief complaint of abdominal pain . What are your top 10 differential diagnoses?. Clinicians begin to think of diagnoses as soon as they hear the chief complaintThe differential gets refined as you hear more problemsHow woul
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1. Clinical case: Abdominal painCarla B. Aamodt, MD, Heidi Chumley, MD, Michael Kennedy, MDUniversity of Kansas School of MedicineKansas City, Kansas
2. Your patient A 39 year-old female comes in to the emergency room with a chief complaint of abdominal pain
3. What are your top 10 differential diagnoses? Clinicians begin to think of diagnoses as soon as they hear the chief complaint
The differential gets refined as you hear more problems
How would your differential be different if this patient were 70 years old? 8?
Would your differential be different if the patient had presented to outpatient clinic?
4. Consider VINDICATES as a place to start V: vascular
I: infectious
N: neoplastic
D: degenerative
I: intoxication/ingestion (and drug side effects)
C: congenital
A: allergic/autoimmune
T: trauma
E: endocrine
S: supratentorial/psych
N: neuro
5. History of present illness Location: epigastric
Other symptoms: nausea, vomiting, feels warm, sweaty, anorexia
Chronicity: similar symptoms occasionally in past, but nothing this severe. This week has had several episodes of pain, but they didnt last. Tonight pain has been much worse and present for 3 hours.
6. History of present illness, cont. Alleviating factors: nothing seems to help, in past has tried Tums, ibuprofen, tonight tried Tylenol 2000 mg
Things that make it worse: Seems to have gotten bad after eating rehearsal dinner
Experience of the pain: sharp, wave-like episodes
Severity: 8/10
7. Now what are your top 10 differentials? Put them in order of likelihood
Put them in order of lethality
Clinicians weigh both of these as they decide how to proceed
What information do you need to help you commit to a Most Likely Diagnosis?
8. Past medical history Hypertension
Crohns dz (dx age 26 with ileitis and arthropathyquiescentlast colonoscopy ok 6 mo ago). Transfused 2 U PRBCs for this in past
Depression
G2P2, regular menses
Previous surgery for C-section x 2
Meds are: Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Zoloft 100 mg a day, Methotrexate 10 mg a week, Ortho-Tri-Cyclen, Tylenol ES 6 a day
9. Time to refine your differential How has it changed?
Anything new to add to the list?
Would your differential be different if this was a patient with HIV?
10. Social History Married bank teller2 daughters: 17 and 19. The 19 year-old is getting married this weekend.
Drinks 3-4 drinks a day. No tobacco. Cocaine and marijuana in teens. None since.
Sedentary lifestyle
Meat and potatoes diet
11. FH FH: Father died of heart disease at age 42he had high cholesterol and HTN. Mother, age 64 dx breast cancer 10 yr ago, doing well. 2 bros and 1 sister all with HTN, hyperlipidemia. Remainder of FH either unknown or negative.
12. What Review of Systems do you want?
13. Any change in your differential? What physical exam do you want?
Think: What physical exam will help you determine which differential diagnosis is correct?
14. Physical exam Vitals: T 38.6C, BP 100/58, HR 112, RR 20
Gen: Well developed overweight WF who appears in mild distress
HEENT, Heart and Lung exams: All within normal limits (WNL) except slight yellowish tinge to sclerae
15. Physical exam, cont Abd: Obese abdomen, with decreased bowel sounds, soft, tender with guarding in RUQ and epigastrium, no rebound, liver is 12 cm in diameter at the mid-clavicular line, with a soft edge felt 2 cm below the right costal margin. Spleen not palpable.
Extremities and Neuro exams within normal limits
16. A few quick questions What do you think of this exam?
Is this an acute abdomen?
No rebound, although there is guarding. Could do other testsjostle bed, etc.
What do you think about the liver size?
Liver is a little larger than normal span (normal is about 10 cm in mid-clavicular line), and palpable slightly lower than normal.
What do you think about the sclerae?
Likely jaundiceusually means bilirubin >= 3.0
17. What labs do you want?
18. Laboratory studies CBC
Hemoglobin/hematocrit: 10/30
White blood cell count: 12 K: 80% segs; 10% bands
Platelet count: 100 K
LFTs
Serum bilirubin: 4.0 mg %
AST/ALT: 60/95 mg/dl
Albumin: 2.8 mg/dl
Alkaline phosphatase: 250 units
19. Labs, cont Chem 7
Na 132
K 3.4
Cl 100
CO2 18
BUN 28
Cr 1.4
Glu 108
Coags
PT 15 (INR 1.5)
PTT 30
Amylase 32
Lipase 28
20. What do you think of the labs?What is abnormal? What other labs do you wish you had?
21. Abnormal labs Anemic (normal Hb about 12-14), mild thrombocytopenia
Minimally elevated white blood cell count with a left shift
Amylase/lipase minimally elevated
What about the liver tests?
High bilirubin and alk phos
Minimally elevated transaminases
Albumin low but normal PT/PTT: 2.8 mg/dl
22. Abnormal labs Mildly elevated PT/PTT
Mild hyponatremia, hypokalemia
Likely metabolic acidosis with low bicarbonate and elevated anion gap
Increased BUN: Creatinine (>=20) ratio suggests dehydration
23. What diagnoses are most likely? What are you going to do next?
24. What do you order BEFORE you get your imaging? IV Fluids: typical hydration fluids for dehydrated patients are either Normal (isotonic) Saline (0.9% NaCl) OR Lactated Ringers (aka LR)
Potassium replacementlikely IV as pt is nauseated
IV antibioticsbroad-spectrum given clinical presentation consistent with cholangitis
Pain control
Surgical/GI consultsinvolve consultants early rather than late
25. CT abdomen Gallstones with dilated biliary ducts, thickened gallbladder wall, gallstones
Remainder of abdomen CT unremarkable
26. What makes cholangitis the most likely diagnosis? Clinical diagnosis: Charcots triad: fever, RUQ pain, jaundice
Elevated WBCit appears mild, but there is a clear left shift AND patient is immune suppressed (methotrexate)so WBC nlly low
Additionally, signs of possible sepsis: BP is low (particularly concerning in a normally hypertensive patient), pt tachycardic
27. Which antibiotics would you use and why? What pathogens do you need to cover?
E coli, Enterococcus, Klebsiella, Enterobacter
What types of organisms are these?
Need gram positive anaerobic and aerobic coverage
Which antibiotics cover these?
Could use ticarcillinclavulanic acid OR ceftriaxone plus metronidazole OR ciprofloxacin plus metronidazole
28. What is the definitive treatment? ERCP to remove stones and/or cholecystectomy
Initially may temporize by putting in a biliary stent
29. Oral Presentations Medicine vs. Surgery
Dealing with your attending
30. General Advice Organization Systems
Roundsmanship
When I rounded on Ms. Jones 2 hours ago, her RR was 30
31. Clinical Case: Acute Renal Failure
32. The patient 76 yo male patient is seeing you in the outpatient clinic
Recent labs show that he has a creatinine of 2.0 mg/dL. Six months ago, his creatinine was 1.2 mg/dL.
What is your differential diagnosis?
33. What else do you need to know? PMH: HTN, osteoarthritis. No PSH
Meds: lisinopril 10 mg a day, Aleve (naproxen sodium) 500 mg BID
SH: Widower. Lives alone. 3 children. Never drank alcohol. Smoked 20 pk year, but quit in 1976. No drugs. TV dinner dietmainly Lean Cuisine
FH: Father died of prostate CA. Mother died of stroke with Alzheimers. Sibs with HTN, high cholesterol. Children healthy.
34. How has your differential dx for the acute renal insufficiency changed? Is there additional information youd like to know?
Taking same dose of all meds for last 3 years.
What are general categories of renal insufficiency?
35. Categories of renal failure Pre-renal: the volume coming into the kidney is too low (hemorrhage, hypotension, dehydration, pump failure (CHF), etc.)
Intrinsic renal: dysfunction of the kidney itself cause renal failure (glomerulonephritis, acute interstitial nephritis, toxins, etc.) Biggest category
Post-renal: obstruction. BUT, you can still have a fairly normal creatinine if one ureter is obstructed, so think obstruction of the urethra (BPH, a large kidney stone, etc.)
36. What history questions could help you determine type of renal failure? Think: What might be symptoms of pre-renal, intrinsic renal OR post-renal
failure?
37. Our patient Feels pretty good. Hasnt really noted much in the way of symptoms.
However, ROS positive for:
Sneezing, itchy eyes, nasal congestion in spring
Chronic dry cougha couple times a day
Diarrheal illness two weeks ago, has been a little fatigued since
Nocturia 3 times a night. Sometimes feels like bladder does not completely empty.
38. Our patient Notes some swelling of anklesespecially at the end of hot days
Has some indigestion with spicy foods
39. What is your differential diagnosis now?
40. History: some symptoms that might suggest pre-renal azotemia Change in blood pressure medicine (h/o HTN)
Nausea/vomiting/diarrhea
Hx suggestive of GI bleed: Heartburn, melena, hematochezia (=BRBPR=bright red blood per rectum)
Dizziness/lightheadedness
Fatigue
Swelling in ankles or legs
History of CHF, liver disease (hepatitis)
41. Intrinsic renal: History LOTS of causes for intrinsic renal failure (IgA nephropathy, acute interstitial nephritis, lupus nephritis, hypertension induced nephropathy, etc.) so, LOTS of possible symptoms
So, you need to take a good, thorough history and do a good thorough exam
Some specifics: ask about recent illness, joint problems, rashes, new medications (incl OTCs), BP control, constitutional symptoms
42. Post-renal azotemia: History BPH Sx: dribbling urine, difficulty starting urine stream, frequency, nocturia, feeling of not emptying bladder, etc.
Nephrolithiasis sx (kidney stone): flank or pubic pain, blood in urine, past history of stones, use of certain medicines like furosemide
Medicines that may cause urinary retention (tricyclic antidepressants, opiates, etc.)
43. Has this additional information refined your differential any? What physical exam would you do?
44. Physical exam findings BP 142/92, HR 74, RR 12, Ht 510 Wt 178
Gen: WD WN AAM in NAD
HEENT, Lungs, CV: WNL
Abd: ND, NABS, soft, NT
Ext: no C/C, 1+ edema, 2+ pulses, multiple small non-tender varicose veins
Rectal: enlarged prostate without nodularity or masses; hemoccult negative
45. Physical exam: some signs that might suggest pre-renal azotemia Hypotension/orthostatic hypotension (most fairly acute causes will lead to one of these)
Tachycardia (esp. with fairly acute causes)
Pale skin/conjunctivae/mucus membranes (if hemorrhage a cause)
Rectal exam with melena, red blood or simply guaiac positive brown stool
Dry mucus membranes, rarely decreased skin turgor (in the case of dehydration)
S3 gallop, peripheral edema, displaced PMI in the case of low ejection fraction/CHF
Ascites, peripheral edema in the case of end-stage liver disease
46. Post-renal azotemia: Physical exam Enlarged prostate (BPH)
Supra-pubic mass (often an enlarged bladder) from urine retention
47. Labwork: some findings that might suggest pre-renal azotemia BUN/Cr ratio of greater than 20
Urinalysis showing increased specific gravity (esp. greater than 1.020)
Fractional excretion of sodium <1% (this is Urine Na/Plasma Na divided by Urine osmolality/Plama osmolality)
Low hemoglobin/hematocrit (in case of hemorrhage)
48. Some labwork suggestive of intrinsic renal disease Urine eosinophilia (for acute interstitial nephritis)
FeNa greater than 1-2%
Abnormal UA findings: proteinuria (>3 grams per day is suggestive of , red cell casts (glomerulonephritis), muddy brown casts (ATN)
Elevated BNP (in CHF), abnormal LFTs (possible in liver disease)
Positive ANA (lupus), HIV test (HIV-associated nephropathy), etc.
49. Post-renal azotemia: Labwork Before you get labwork, try putting a Foley catheter in your patient (if you get lots of urine out or if you cant get the catheter in, you probably have your diagnosis)
Ultrasound may show enlarged bladder or BPH
PSA may be enlargedesp for prostate CA, but small elevations also common in BPH
50. Our patient Foley catheter released 2 LITERS of urine and was left in place.
PSA done and moderately elevated at 7.
Pt placed on medications for BPH.
Urology performed prostate biopsy and found no cancer. TURP performed and patient doing well.
51. Write-up (A/P depends on what point you do it!) Cc: increased creatinine
HPI: 76 yo male called to come to clinic to follow up on abnormal creatinine. Cr was 1.2 6 mos ago, now 2.0. Pt has not noted any new symptoms except fatigue after a bout with diarrhea 2 wks ago. However, he does have nocturia x3 at night and a feeling of incomplete bladder evacuation. Ankles swell with heat. No new medications in last 6 mos. Denies dribbling, hematuria, dysuria, edema, urine incontinence.
52. H and P cont PMH: HTN, OA. No PSH
Meds: Lisionopril 10 mg po qday, Aleve 500 mg po BID
NKDA
SH: Remote 20 pk year cigarrette smoker. No EtOH. No drugs. Retired widower. Lives alone.
FH: F died prostate CA, mother died CVA/Alzheimers. Sibs HTN, hyperlipidemia.
53. H and P cont ROS: Constitutional: see HPI, no dizziness/ fevers/chills/sweats/wt loss or gain
HEENT: sneezing/itching eyes/nasal congestion in springnone currently
Lungs: chronic dry cough (2 yr), no dyspnea/wheezing
CV: no CP/pressure/edema/orthopnea/DOE/ palpitations
Abd: diarrhea 2 wk ago, now resolved. Indigestion with spicy foods. Currently no N/V/diarrhea/constipation/abd pain/hematochezia/ melena
GU: see HPI
Msk: chronic arthritis is knees and hands for several years. No joint swelling or warmth.
Derm: no rashes, change in moles
Lymph: no LAD
54. H and P cont BP 142/92, HR 74, RR 12, Ht 510 Wt 178
Gen: WD WN AAM in NAD
HEENT, Lungs, CV: WNL
Abd: ND, NABS, soft, NT
Ext: no C/C, 1+ edema, 2+ pulses, multiple small non-tender varicose veins
Rectal: enlarged prostate without nodularity or masses; hemoccult negative
55. H and P Labs (6/20/06): Na 135, K 4.4, Cl 100, CO2: 27, BUN 18, Cr 2.0, Glu 86
Procedure: upon insertion of Foley catheter 2000 cc of pale yellow urine drained out. Catheter left in place.
A: Elevated creatinine in setting of urinary retention. Possible causes: prostate CA, BPH, urethral stricture
P: 1. 23 hour Admit to Medicine for eval and treatment. 2. Urology C/S for eval, possible bx, possible surgery. 2. Check PSA/chem 7 in AM. 3. Leave Foley catheter in place for now. 4. Trial of doxazosin and tamsulosin. 5. U/S of prostate. 6. Hydrate with ˝ NS at 75 cc/hr during post-obstructive diuresis. 7. Stop Aleve and lisinopril. Doxazosin for BP
56. SOAP note the following day S: Pt tired of catheter b/c it pulls. Ready to go home. ROS negative
O: T 37 C BP 124/72 HR 76 RR 14
General: WDWM in NAD
Lungs: BCTA
CV: RRR no M/R/G
Abd: ND, NABS, soft, NT
GU: Foley catheter in place with pale yellow urine, no erythema, no blood
Labs: BUN 12 Cr 1.8 PSA 7
Prostate US: showed enlarged prostate without dominant masses
57. SOAP cont A/P: 76 yo M with HTN/OA admitted for urinary obstruction
1. Urine obstruction: Urology to perform prostate bx as outpt, recommend leaving Foley catheter in until follow up in 5 days. Social work to teach patient Foley care. D/c IVF. Cont tamsulosin/doxazosin. Recheck Cr at f/u with Urology.
2. HTN: doxazosin 2 mg po qday for now. (Lisinopril stopped.)
3. OA: Tylenol prn for pain. Avoid NSAIDs
4. Discharge: to home today
58. EMR
59. EHR Documentation Some clinics have EHR.
Benefits: Added structure your note will look fantastic; previous notes are legible
Common pitfalls:
Forms
Information carried forward
Click boxes, especially normal
Easy access to peoples information; but traceable
60. Clinical Case: A Child with Cough
61. The patient 4 year-old brought by mom to the office for cough
What is your differential diagnosis?
Try to generate a differential based on age and chief complaint before entering the room.
62. What else do you need to know? HPI: about 4 months; worse when sleeping; worse outside playing; tried Claritin once without relief
PMH: Normal birth and development; Immunizations UTD; Eczema until 4 y/o
Meds: None
SH: Lives with mom and dad; 2 siblings; first grader, no school problems; dad smokes outside
FH: Mom with allergies
63. How has your differential dx for the cough changed? Shift to causes of chronic cough
What are causes of chronic cough in children?
Hints for a great differential diagnosis
Think in broad categories first (i.e. infection v. adenovirus infection)
Think about common and dangerous (if applicable)
64. Causes of cough in children Reactive changes : Asthma or Postnasal discharge
Infection :Viral causes , Pertussis , Mycoplasma pneumonia, Tuberculosis
Passive smoke
Cystic Fibrosis
Foreign body
65. What specific questions could help you determine the cause? Think: What might be symptoms of reactive or infectious?
66. Our patient Feels pretty good. Hasnt really noted much in the way of symptoms. She and mom tell you
ROS positive for:
Gets out of breath easily
ROS negative for:
Fevers, chills, fatigue
Runny nose, itchy eyes
Wheezing or chest tightness
67. Has this additional information refined your differential any? What physical exam would you do?
What parts do you think you could leave out?
68. Physical exam findings BP 90/50, HR 98, RR 14, 50% height and weight
Gen: WD WN WF in NAD
HEENT: no nasal discharge; no swollen turbinates; no fluid behind TMs; normal pharynx
Lungs: Clear to auscultation
CV: RRR without murmurs
Abd: NDNT, no HSM
Ext: no C/C/E
Skin: no rashes
69. Assessment What/how much to write differs by setting
Look at prior notes
General guidelines
OK to use symptom, followed by diff. diagnosis
Often more than 1, include health maintenance
Chronic cough: asthma, allergies, or chronic infection
Expand either in writing or presentation
Edit after discussion with attending
70. Plan Always have a plan
What/how much to write differs by setting
Look at prior notes
General guidelines
Match plan items to assessment
Have a plan for every assessment
Plans can be watch, provide reassurance, lifestyle changes, medications, tests or procedures, etc.
Edit after discussion with attending
71. What makes a good note Legible with legible signature/printed name
Order SOAP or H&P
Relevant positives and negatives
*Demonstrates your understanding*
Matched assessment and plan
Accurate record of visit
Clear to an outsider what was going on
72. What makes a bad note? Illegible
Disordered
Containing personal biases/beliefs (yours)
Advised that (some behavior) is wrong
Inaccurate or misleading
I listened to the heart yesterday nothing changed
Neuro exam WNL
Check boxes on electronic health record
73. Yes, this was actually written
She has no rigors or chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.
The pelvic exam will be done later on the floor.
She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life until she got a divorce.
On the second day the knee was better and on the third day it had completely disappeared.
Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.
74. What about this
Patient is non-compliant with medications
Previous physician did not order an XRay
General rule: Nothing you wouldnt show the patient.
Did not take meds due to concerns about safety.
75. Sometimes it is hard
Patient refuses to consider smoking cessation even though I told her that is causing her childs asthma.
Discussed risks of smoking concerning childs asthma. Patient voiced understanding and is pre-contemplational.
76. Panel Discussion What questions do you have for us?