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1. DBT pilot Forth Valley:Trials and errors
2. Large georgraphical area; rural isolation; surprising socio economic deprivation in Alloa and Falkirk areaLarge georgraphical area; rural isolation; surprising socio economic deprivation in Alloa and Falkirk area
3. The beginning: something must be done Existing patients with BPD: time consuming, distressing
No coherent approach
BPD patients drift towards certain therapist
Some therapists dont mind BPD Liaison psychiatrist: 1000 DSH per yearLiaison psychiatrist: 1000 DSH per year
4. Numbers: in-patients 17th May 2005
5. Numbers: outpatients
6. Numbers: out-patients Forth Valley population 200.000 19-65
1%: 2000 no way!!
Outpatient clinic: 10%
10 GA consultants: 20 BPD each, 10 on the go
About 100 patients on the go
Cornton Vale Prison (female)
Cornton Vale Prison: a locked ward containing BPD patientsCornton Vale Prison: a locked ward containing BPD patients
7. The plan Use the staff who see BPD patients anyway
Increase staffs skill
Funding: Choose Life Initiative
Collect data: lots
Dont tell management
Dont think beyond the pilot
8. Would you like to receive training in DBT? 85 nurses shout: yes!!
Selection by persistence
9. 1. Are you/ currently dealing with BPD patients?
2. How much time do you spent on such patients?
3. Can you/ your team afford to spend more time on such patients? Would you like to?
4. Do you have time for the training?
5. Will you have time for once weekly supervision?
6. Do you have a room to run group sessions in?
Have you discussed your application with the local consultant psychiatrists/ service managers?
How did they respond? Selecting therapists
10. Training days 6 therapists
Chester 1st training week October 2005
Start treatment beginning Jan 2006
Once weekly group therapy (two groups)
Once weekly team meeting
Chester 2nd training week June 2006
11. Data collection Pre- programme:
Staff and patient questionnaires
Patient demographic information (incl. number of suicide and self harm attempts, medication use, admissions to hospital)
Psychometric tests (GAS; HADS; DAST; SADD)
During:
Weekly patient session evaluations
8 weekly staff questionnaires/ evaluations
Weekly therapist time logs
Psychometric tests and demographic data to be collected after 6 months.
Post programme:
Staff and patient questionnaires
Demographic data
Psychometric tests
Follow-up:
Demographic data
Psychometric tests.
12. Number games 16 patients (15 f, 1m)
3 patients have dropped out so far
13. Pre and during programme data
14. Patient feedback There are other people the same as me
they are teaching me to manage my problem
Its overwhelming
15. Summary of Results low drop out rate
Less often suicide attempts
Less alcohol, less time on psychiatric ward
Depression and global functioning the same
Most patients appreciative of intervention
16. Therapists time per week
17. DBT: The problems It aint english
time consuming: 3.5 hours therapists time per week per patient
Hidden and open criticism from some colleagues
Rocking the boat
What happens when therapy stops For the uninitiated: Impenetrable jungle of american psychobabbles.For the uninitiated: Impenetrable jungle of american psychobabbles.
18. The delights Patients
Good adherence
They appreciate our efforts
Remarkable improvement in a minority
Therapists
Sense of purpose and direction
Cohesion
19. A sense of purpose and direction? Treatment for PD rather than avoiding patients
vehicle for a service development even if it isnt DBT!
20. The active ingredients Validating environment
A structure
Being removed: the specialists
Skills based: teaching patients to manage themselves
Detaining patients, taking over control, close observations, making diagnosis are no issues
A weird structure, but probably sound: a bit like houses: they can be weird, but if they have a roof and running water theyll do.
Wards, consultant psychiatrists, abusive fathers are all outside world. We dont interfere with it directly.
The principle is very different from the way such patients are dealt with usually (particularly by consultant psychiatrists who are forced kicking and screaming into doing madness with such patientsDetaining patients, taking over control, close observations, making diagnosis are no issues
A weird structure, but probably sound: a bit like houses: they can be weird, but if they have a roof and running water theyll do.
Wards, consultant psychiatrists, abusive fathers are all outside world. We dont interfere with it directly.
The principle is very different from the way such patients are dealt with usually (particularly by consultant psychiatrists who are forced kicking and screaming into doing madness with such patients
21. How to do it better next time Involve management early
Think of the time beyond the pilot
Try two different models simultaneously
Dont underestimate the time Detaining patients, taking over control, close observations, making diagnosis are no issues
A weird structure, but probably sound: a bit like houses: they can be weird, but if they have a roof and running water theyll do.
Wards, consultant psychiatrists, abusive fathers are all outside world. We dont interfere with it directly.
The principle is very different from the way such patients are dealt with usually (particularly by consultant psychiatrists who are forced kicking and screaming into doing madness with such patientsDetaining patients, taking over control, close observations, making diagnosis are no issues
A weird structure, but probably sound: a bit like houses: they can be weird, but if they have a roof and running water theyll do.
Wards, consultant psychiatrists, abusive fathers are all outside world. We dont interfere with it directly.
The principle is very different from the way such patients are dealt with usually (particularly by consultant psychiatrists who are forced kicking and screaming into doing madness with such patients